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post Nov 12 2005, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE (RedKnightSpecial @ Nov 12 2005, 08:15 AM)
Yeah, all the sexuality (and weird smuggish tone that kept popping in here and there) were just a little bit creepy to me, man.

Seriously, you said the chick got a new cunt cut in her belly. It sounds like Hentai. Ick. I need to go take a shower. I feel like I am covered in a light coating of slime. As if I was sneezed on by a mastiff.

Yeah, there had to have been a better way to describe that. Since you seem to love the brutality there are many ways to sickeningly describe the woman's disembowlment that captures the imagination without making people feel dirty for reading it.

Of course it does tend to fit with the over-sexed atmosphere of the writing.
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post Nov 12 2005, 02:12 PM
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Actually, "carve her a new cunt" was the phrase the DM used when he advised the sammie (who was a newbie to the system) on what to do about SMG girl. There was nothing hentai-ish meant by it, anymore than "rip 'em a new asshole' or 'cut him a new belly button'.


Besides, over-sexxed is better than overly gorey.
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post Nov 12 2005, 02:37 PM
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No, it aint. Not when the people playing are a group of guys describing their lesbians it sure as hell isn't. And when you start combining sex AND gore (like new cunts being cut) when a group of guys are hanging out together it is definately a far cry from good. Oh man, it aint right.
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post Nov 12 2005, 02:42 PM
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QUOTE (RedKnightSpecial)
No, it aint. Not when the people playing are a group of guys describing their lesbians it sure as hell isn't. And when you start combining sex AND gore (like new cunts being cut) when a group of guys are hanging out together it is definately a far cry from good. Oh man, it aint right.

Agreed.

Three last questions:

How old are you ShadowDragon8685?

Were there any real women present during this, either playing or within earshot?

What was your motivation behind playing an asian elf woman runner and making her a lesbian?

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post Nov 12 2005, 02:43 PM
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To be honest, while reading the session report, I wondered at the maturity of the players/GM, as much as I wondered at anything else.
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post Nov 12 2005, 02:50 PM
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Okay, y'know what? You guys are assholes, plain and simple.

Now I know why people leave Dumpshock and never come back. Really, wtf is your problem, mmm?

Look at you. Go ahead. You're fucking RPG players, among other things. You spend your times role-playing as characters who vary in scope from stone-cold killers to gang-bangers to (the distressingly rare) robin-hood type.

Really, who the hell are you assholes to start casting stones, mmm? Over a little crude language, no less? Nothing sexual was meant by "carve 'er a new cunt." It was a colorful way to say "slice the bitch." The only sexual things that happened in the game were the molesting gang-banger, and the kisses that Skate stole off the girl.

I'm sorry. I forgot for a moment that "Roleplay" meant "Behave in the most efficient manner possible given the numbers on your character sheet, with the express purpose of termininating all hostiles and acquiring as much wealth as possible."
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post Nov 12 2005, 03:04 PM
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Hey man, you posted a report. If I didn't say so before, then I apologize, but it was clear, informative, and well written. I suppose you posted it here because you were happy with how it turned out and you wanted us to share in your excitement.

I am sorry to say that the times I have been through "Food Fight" have been more interesting than what you told us, but I do give the troll player props for using the human shield and the arcade machine; both actions are far more in the spirit of "Food Fight" than slicing and shooting.

Now when you post somehting like this and people start to make comments, don't tell them that their comments are wrong and tell them to comment on somehting else, like something cool that your character did (somehting that mostly depended on dice rolls anyway).

As I have said, your report was clear, informative, and well written, but it did contain portions that some found offensive and other portions that made some question your roleplaying. Now I admit that I took a needlessly adversarial tone, I apologize, but next time when you post somehting for all the world to see and comment upon, be prepared to hear things you don't want to hear. I mean, jeez, my ego was crushed the first time I posted a piece of creative writng for the comments of others.
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post Nov 12 2005, 03:36 PM
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Cue the Cartman post.

"Screw you guys, I'm going...home."

I feel a little bad though. It was indeed well written. Well written and creepy.
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post Nov 12 2005, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)
Okay, y'know what? You guys are assholes, plain and simple.

Now I know why people leave Dumpshock and never come back. Really, wtf is your problem, mmm?

Look at you. Go ahead. You're fucking RPG players, among other things. You spend your times role-playing as characters who vary in scope from stone-cold killers to gang-bangers to (the distressingly rare) robin-hood type.

Really, who the hell are you assholes to start casting stones, mmm? Over a little crude language, no less? Nothing sexual was meant by "carve 'er a new cunt." It was a colorful way to say "slice the bitch." The only sexual things that happened in the game were the molesting gang-banger, and the kisses that Skate stole off the girl.

I'm sorry. I forgot for a moment that "Roleplay" meant "Behave in the most efficient manner possible given the numbers on your character sheet, with the express purpose of termininating all hostiles and acquiring as much wealth as possible."

"Waaah, my pussy hurts!"

If you don't want to hear a little criticism, don't post a play by play. If you post a play by play, and get some criticism, don't argue with our opinions. If you post a play by play, get some criticism, and argue with people's opinions, don't get your panties all in a fucking wad over it.

I'm sorry we didn't all gush and goo and swoon at your amazing battle. I'm sorry we're so fucking tired of guys playing nymphomaniacal lesbians we commented on it. I'm sorry you took it to heart, and are convinced the cruel, cruel, internet is full of assholes. I'm sorry you think that means you have to lash out and be all "you're just a bunch of gamers, anyways, boohoo!" as your only real defense.

Yes, we're gamers. So the fuck what? Contrary to some people's common perception, that doesn't automatically make us all pathetic losers -- and even if it does, there's a hierarchy amongst pathetic loser gamers. And guess what, slick? The dorks who play lesbian nymphos are right at the fucking bottom. Ask Eric Johnson.

Grow up. If you really, really, have to play an "impish" little nympho of an asian lesbian chick, then play it. Don't worry about what I think, or someone else does. It's pretty fucking simple.
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post Nov 12 2005, 03:58 PM
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This thread makes me giggle.
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post Nov 12 2005, 04:12 PM
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and yet, i still ask how old skate is... if she's anything similar to the skate you gave me, (and considering that skate, too, was asian), born in '41, was running in 65 i beleive that woulda made her 24, so was you're "new" skate born in 46, making her 24 still?or is she 29 now? either way... why would she even look at the GF of a 15 yr old kid, that girl musta been 17 at the oldest (assuming she was human).

Ok, heres my point, there are some things that needn't be detailed in a game. cutting a shirt off and a bra open, falls under that category, imo. my rule of thumb (probably coming from a film schooling) is "does this add anything constructive to the scene?" in most cases, a girl laying bare breasted with a trauma patch and details on how thats done, won't add anything to the scene except for hormonal teenagers.
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post Nov 12 2005, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE (Aku)
Ok, heres my point, there are some things that needn't be detailed in a game. cutting a shirt off and a bra open, falls under that category, imo. my rule of thumb (probably coming from a film schooling) is "does this add anything constructive to the scene?" in most cases, a girl laying bare breasted with a trauma patch and details on how thats done, won't add anything to the scene except for hormonal teenagers.

Gawd, I hope it's just some hormonal teenagers and that's it. Because any older and then it'd just be sad.

Don't get me on a tirade about those people with stupid fantasies of nympho asian lesbos. Blech.
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post Nov 12 2005, 08:34 PM
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I once played in a group that had a lesbian adept tiger shifter. I ws teh hormonal teenager ( i was playing a strait guy), and the dude playing the uber lesbian was a 40 year old greasy fat dude with a child mollestor van and a thing for teenage girls. Remember kids, if you play lesbians one day you will be that guy. Dont play lesbians! (unless you are one of course)
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post Nov 12 2005, 11:22 PM
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wow. thats a lot of flameage there. are you guys trying to summon a force 6 fire elemental or something?

I rather liked the little story.
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post Nov 13 2005, 01:55 AM
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QUOTE (Teulisch)
wow. thats a lot of flameage there. are you guys trying to summon a force 6 fire elemental or something?

Greatform baby, greatform!

As I have said, I thought the report was well written, but when he posts it for public comment he should not dictate what is commented upon.
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post Nov 13 2005, 04:10 AM
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If you're going to jump on the kid at least try not to come off as an asshat while doing it people -- rolling in the mud with pigs doesn't make you any cleaner.
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post Nov 13 2005, 04:11 AM
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I have to admit, the "carve her a new..." was a little graphic for my taste. I'm not sure why it bothers me more than "rip him a new one" or the more descriptive "rip him a new asshole", but it does.

The sexuality is a matter for another diatribe.

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post Nov 13 2005, 04:38 AM
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QUOTE (ShadowDragon8685)
Okay, y'know what? You guys are assholes, plain and simple.

Look at you. Go ahead. You're fucking RPG players, among other things.

Really, who the hell are you assholes to start casting stones, mmm?

Umm,...didn't this thread start with you describing one of your RPG experiences?

Upon evaluation of these statements we, the National Stone Throwing Authority, regret to inform you that your License to Throw has been revoked.

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post Nov 13 2005, 04:47 AM
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:rotfl:
This is great. I'm saving it for the rainy days.
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I have given the requested comment on tactics, but have not found any reaction. Maybe an inability to read on my part?

But to the discussion at hand:

There is a distinct lack of taste present, regarding both sexuality and violence. I do not tolerate this kind of behaviour - even stealing kisses from a person in emotional distress had better not be done in my presence.

One might indeed point to the contradiction between the absolute hate for the molester and the act of invading the girls privacy in a moment of weakness one moment later. While the former is understandable, the later fits into the same category. Shoot em all, let god sort em out. The graphical detail of the description hints at the state of the players minds - I´ll hopefully say its just immaturity, which is why I didn´t comment before.

P.S. Rook: :rotfl:
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post Nov 13 2005, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE (ryu)
One might indeed point to the contradiction between the absolute hate for the molester and the act of invading the girls privacy...



But see, here's the problem, the girl that he "cut the shirt and bra, much to my my characters delight", as far as i can tell, WAS ONE OF THE GANGERS. she wasn't being molested. She wasthe "smg bitch"

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The kid (15 year old with an Ares Predator, I think he may be Spike?) scratches his head with his gun (Almost a pity he didn't have a negligent discharge,) and wanders over to loot the candy. The bitch-girl with the submachine gun is alternating between cooing at the fat boy, and quickdrawing her gun on him. (Real flowerlike personality, her. Specifically, a venus flytrap.)
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Which brings us back to Nhilith, who quickdraws her katana like a Samurai of old, walking up to the submachinegun girl bitch, and promptly cuts her a new cunt. In the middle of her torso. Just short of a disembowelment. (S wound, folks, staged down from a D.)


i honestly forget where this post was going.... I'm just glad shadow found a "group that works" because, obviously, if he was expecting this from my game (the previous "failures") it wasn't gonna happen.
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QUOTE (Siege @ Nov 12 2005, 10:11 PM)
I have to admit, the "carve her a new..." was a little graphic for my taste.  I'm not sure why it bothers me more than "rip him a new one" or the more descriptive "rip him a new asshole", but it does.

-Siege

I agree. I had trouble reading that part; though I don't know why.

Sorry, I started the lesbian comments, but I previously stated here on Dumpshock the stereotype of the hot, lesbian elf played by a guy. I promptly got told no one had ever encountered it. I actually went back and checked to see if your character was elven in addition to asian.

I played a female elf, mostly hetero but not too choosy. (Another trend when guys play females is to make them extreme in ther sexuality - either total sluts or damn near nun-like.) It was funny, but my best friend was playing an adolescent troll that was infatuated with her. (Hopefully total roleplay. ;)) When she'd ask him to watch her body while she astrally projected, he'd cop a feel or sneek a peek, things a bold teen might do. I don't think the GM ever put high charisma females in our path, but everytime we met a guy, I'd ask what his charisma was. Anything 5 or higher and she would try seducing him. (Which really got the troll jealous.) Anyway...

Sounds like you had fun. You actually got to play without getting derailed. Sounds like there weren't too many expectations or disagrrements about setting or tone. One thing I wonder upon reading all the comments and rethinking the story - why did you need to cut the girls shirt and bra off if she had already been cut from stem to sternum, and wouldn't letting her die perhaps be more merciful than trauma patching her while she layed in a tangle mess of her own guts? Maybe a lot of people were critical because they went through the same scenario themself?

The karma re-roll rule is on SR3 page 246 at the top of the right hand column.

And I know how old you are from your explanation of your name, 8/6/85.
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post Nov 14 2005, 12:46 PM
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I agree.  I had trouble reading that part; though I don't know why.


In my defense, I'm not the one who originated that saying! >_<

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Sorry, I started the lesbian comments, but I previously stated here on Dumpshock the stereotype of the hot, lesbian elf played by a guy.  I promptly got told no one had ever encountered it.  I actually went back and checked to see if your character was elven in addition to asian.


No. She's asian, with no elf. The only elves in the story are our sammie and the clerk at the Stuffer Shack.

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I played a female elf, mostly hetero but not too choosy.  (Another trend when guys play females is to make them extreme in ther sexuality - either total sluts or damn near nun-like.)  It was funny, but my best friend was playing an adolescent troll that was infatuated with her.  (Hopefully total roleplay. ;))  When she'd ask him to watch her body while she astrally projected, he'd cop a feel or sneek a peek, things a bold teen might do.  I don't think the GM ever put high charisma females in our path, but everytime we met a guy, I'd ask what his charisma was.  Anything 5 or higher and she would try seducing him.  (Which really got the troll jealous.)  Anyway...


Noo comment. Troll? Yikes. (Okay, that was actually a comment... :) )

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Sounds like you had fun.  You actually got to play without getting derailed.  Sounds like there weren't too many expectations or disagrrements about setting or tone.  One thing I wonder upon reading all the comments and rethinking the story - why did you need to cut the girls shirt and bra off if she had already been cut from stem to sternum, and wouldn't letting her die perhaps be more merciful than trauma patching her while she layed in a tangle mess of her own guts?  Maybe a lot of people were critical because they went through the same scenario themself?


So far, the only disagreement we've had over the setting is just what consitutes a heavy pistol. Apparently, it's 10 mm. I thought wrong, when I thought it was something like .50 AE. x.x

The SMG bitch was not cut from stem to sternum. It was only an S wound; she was cut on the stomach good, but she was not disemboweled. And I got the impression that the cut was horizontal, not vertical. (For the record, she did not go into deadly Overflow. Just a round D, which was pretty good. Good soaking on her part on that last hit.))



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The karma re-roll rule is on SR3 page 246 at the top of the right hand column.

I never saw it. Hmmm. Maybe I need to read again...

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And I know how old you are from your explanation of your name, 8/6/85.


I don't think that's the point, and neither do you. I think the point is that when you demand to know someone's age, you're insulting them by saying they're acting immature.
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post Nov 14 2005, 12:53 PM
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actually, if that age comment is directed at me, i want to know how old the CHARACTER is, not the PLAYER.
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Actually, it was directed at the person who demanded to know my age.

Skate was revamped to be 21.
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