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post Dec 1 2005, 07:41 PM
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Shadows of Asia said that there was actually a massively large and powerful nation and a nuclear war that noone had ever talked about in previous books. Huh? In what way is that not a major retcon?

It all boils down to what you define as powerful.

Even the most populous nation on Earth is powerless if it lacks political will, cohesion and direction. The problem in India is not minority separatist or autonomist movements its the fact that all government energy is devoted to just keeping the system from collapsing - those are only the surface implications of the level of corruption and lack of an overarching national agenda. India will never be a superpower until its central authorities can get their collective head above water for a decent amount of time and stop worrying about just keeping things going. It is not a sleeping giant. It is a fully awake giant hobbled by its own weight.

For the past 20 years Indian governments have taken the long term view, deciding that since they can't get their heads above water they'll build an educational infrastructure that will provide the next generation with a solid economic and technical foundation that they will be able to do so. Unfortunately for them in the SR timeline a large portion of that generation is wiped out by VITAS I and II, just as India is coming into its own. Significantly nobody helps India out during the crisis which sparks isolationism and nationalism, both tinged by the Hindu revival (as opposed to dozens of other religions/faiths/ethnicites). Then what was left of India's tech industry and educational programs are hit by the first Crash (and now the second), sending the tech sector crashing... (this is suggested in MCB-Axis section).

Having the most mages is irrelevant if they don't act concertedly or have a common agenda which is the case in India. It has simply chosen to look inward for the better part of the 21st century and even when its started openning up its found that its not geared to compete with the true powers of the world - which to get this thread back on track may be why the Secretary General of the UN has an agenda of his own.

BTW- The nuclear exchange was originally mentioned in T:WL. You wouldn't call it a war any more than the exchange between Libya and Israel was a "war", and in this case officially it was rogue army officers that started it and both sides want it swept it under the rug.
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post Dec 2 2005, 01:25 AM
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Another way to look at India's abundance of mages would be to call it another kind of brain drain. Another problem that India today faces. All the educated professionals are all trying to get visas to English speaking countries. I think in SR India's case, this could very well happen with mages. That's an interesting twist I might start using. I'm sure lots of wagemage recruiters are offering corporate citizenship to Indian mages. I never thought of it like that until now.
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post Dec 2 2005, 04:58 AM
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I'm sorry, we're going to have to lay you off. We've outsourced our Astral Security to a Conjuration Center in India.
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post Dec 2 2005, 05:04 AM
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I'm sorry, we're going to have to lay you off. We've outsourced our Astral Security to a Conjuration Center in India.

... But they are halfway around the world! They'll have a response time of thirty minutes!

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post Dec 2 2005, 05:11 AM
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You misunderstand. We don't rely on the India mages themselves for the security. Instead, we use the spirits they summon, which remain on site.
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post Dec 2 2005, 05:21 AM
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See, that requires the kind of foresight and attention to detail that the corporations of today just don't have. If they'll outsource customer service positions to a land where the people speak a different dialect of English, they'll export everything.

As is, if conjurers want to patrol with unbound spirits (and they do if they don't want to cough up hundreds of nuyen a day on conjuring materials), they need to be on site, or send unbound spirits on remote service.

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post Dec 2 2005, 05:24 AM
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QUOTE (RunnerPaul)
You misunderstand. We don't rely on the India mages themselves for the security. Instead, we use the spirits they summon, which remain on site.

If you take the advanced security package the spirits are capabale of understanding your native tongue.
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post Dec 2 2005, 03:49 PM
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I'm sorry, we're going to have to lay you off. We've outsourced our Astral Security to a Conjuration Center in India.

Fraggin' hilarious. :)
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