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post Dec 6 2005, 11:00 AM
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Personally, I want engineers to finish their degree knowing their stuff. Just take a look at all the bridges and skyscrapers in your typical modern city. Now imagine being inside/on one when it falls down because of shoddy engineering.
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post Dec 6 2005, 11:45 AM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
QUOTE (bclements @ Dec 5 2005, 08:14 PM)
Really, a normal person could probably teach Org. Management while sleeping. And get tenure! :)

Not quite what he meant, methinks.

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Sleeping the teachers is still an effective way to make an A. Despite technological advances, the classics never go out of style.
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post Dec 6 2005, 12:07 PM
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Well, come on. Most teachers only have 1 hit die anyway, and their will saves are total crap.
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post Dec 6 2005, 04:40 PM
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If I could have one piece of cyber, for the love of fuck give me an alpha/beta/delta Maths SPU 3. Forget "let me fire up the computer and find out," try "running more calulcations in your head than today's PCs and have the answer before you can take in the breath needed to disclaim the answer to the client."

And in the Sixth World, I imagine if you got cyber, you're going to be allowed to use it. The only kids who can afford cyber will be the rich kids, and it's not like they ever fail a course anyway. So if they're actually going to get the cyber that imparts the ability to do what they need to do, so much the better. Better that they spend the :nuyen: for the ability to do it than just occupy space for the time it takes to get their degrees, then nepotize into a position where they're incompetent, and get their underlings to do all the work, as they always have done before.

Please, just give me a Maths SPU. I just hate the math. I've always felt that math class was more about being able to wield your TI-85 (I even upgraded, out of my own pocket, to a TI-89,) than being able to do it in your head.

Of course, as long as we're trading the Essense I don't need for cyber I do, I'll take a datajack/wireless uplink, Encephelon, Headware memory in obscene amounts, and eye/ear recorders with appropriate accompanying eye/ear headware. I expect that, if nothing else, I'll have a bright future as a corporate spy. :P
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post Dec 6 2005, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE (nick012000)
Personally, I want engineers to finish their degree knowing their stuff. Just take a look at all the bridges and skyscrapers in your typical modern city. Now imagine being inside/on one when it falls down because of shoddy engineering.

While I would like that, I've known too many people who got a B.S. in engineering and were still incompetent to expect it to be a reliable indicator of anything other than having met the minimum requirements to get said degree.
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Kagetenshi
post Dec 6 2005, 05:24 PM
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My personal top 5, in order:

Datajack

Math SPU

Encephalon

Various hearing augmentations

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post Dec 6 2005, 06:30 PM
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Id say something, but Im STILL going to school for architecture. I started in 99. *faceplam* what the hell am I thinking?
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post Dec 6 2005, 06:44 PM
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Being an architorture major says plenty about what you're thinking.
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post Dec 6 2005, 10:40 PM
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What about casinos and gambling? How would casinos control people's ability to count cards perfectly?
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post Dec 6 2005, 10:44 PM
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Shuffle 30,000 decks together and reshuffle after every hand, increase the emphasis on games like Poker where the game isn't against the house per se, and increase the emphasis on games of pure chance (Craps, Roulette, slot machines, etc.).

I expect Blackjack to be dead in 2050s casinos.

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post Dec 6 2005, 11:44 PM
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don't they reshuffle after every hand? it should be trivial to shuffle in such a way that one simply can't see the cards to cound them (eg, flip the deck so the top cards are facing directly towards the player's eyes, keeping him from seeing what the cards below the top are doing).
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post Dec 6 2005, 11:48 PM
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I'd go with a math SPU, because math is probably my weak point.

a datajack would be nice, but considering you really don't have much to interface with right now....
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post Dec 6 2005, 11:51 PM
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A wireless implant that could do Bluetooth or Wi-Fi would be awesome, though.
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post Dec 7 2005, 01:32 AM
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I'd take boosted reflexes, synthacardium, a datajack, improved flexibility (or whatever the heck it's called), and a cranial cyberdeck. Also, cybereyes.
Of course, I'd need a fiber-optic to 802.11 adapter, but such a thing likely could be made.
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post Dec 7 2005, 01:33 AM
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maybe, I think I spend too much time online anyway.

hearing dampener & amplification, lowlight vision & microscopic vision are my second choices.
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post Dec 9 2005, 06:31 PM
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Hmm... Seems like a lot of people aren't totally satisfied with their major. I certainly feel like I got more than a reciept (but then again, I had a real major, computer science).

I think it's interesting that the cyber listed as 'highly suggested' (which might just be mandatory) costs almost as much as the college education itself!! Sure, if you're getting your way paid by Renraku or whatnot you're in the gold, but if you're some middle manager's daughter working your way through on loans and scholarships, how are you going to put up the $8k for a datajack and a math SPU which would be almost required for a CS degree?

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post Dec 9 2005, 07:17 PM
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That CS degree's really going to come in handy when your job moves to India.
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post Dec 9 2005, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE (SL James)
That CS degree's really going to come in handy when your job moves to India.

You have confused programming with computer science.

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post Dec 9 2005, 08:43 PM
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Okay
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post Dec 9 2005, 09:40 PM
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You've also confused private with government service. And IT with computer science. Even though India is creating technical institutes, the US continues to be the world leader in computer science (in the world economies, we've largely lost production and are gradually losing many service industries, but R&D is the one we're holding onto for dear life. That's programming.)

Trust me, of all the things I'd worry about in my job, being outsourced to India isn't really high on the list.
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post Dec 9 2005, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi)
if you're some middle manager's daughter working your way through on loans and scholarships, how are you going to put up the $8k for a datajack and a math SPU which would be almost required for a CS degree?

More loans. Interest slavery. Then when they are late on one single payment, to anyone, all their rates triple or go to the highest rate allowed under the usury laws. Since megas are extraterritorial, and get to have their own laws, I am sure they get to set their own rates. Loan shark rates.
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post Dec 10 2005, 05:58 AM
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You don't really need the math SPU, at least not up front. A DNI-equipped calculator will be nearly as fast. The ¥2k is a lot more bearable.

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post Dec 10 2005, 11:54 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi)
You've also confused private with government service.

Yes. I got it. I got it when Kage posted.
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post Dec 11 2005, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
You don't really need the math SPU, at least not up front. A DNI-equipped calculator will be nearly as fast. The ¥2k is a lot more bearable.

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Considering how much a SOTA calculator costs now it is possible that the math SPU would be cheaper.
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