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post Dec 16 2005, 03:53 PM
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I have a player who wants to be hit with SURGE. He doesn't care how, he thinks it would be fun. I agreed. At first i wanted to make him lizard like but now i am thinking to make him somewhat like a T'skang from Earthdawn. We are doing Harlequins adventure and i would think it would be fun if Harlequin called him a T'skang (being an immortal elf and all, he probaly knows about them). Do you think its a good idea and how would i convert him into something like that. I don't know anything really about character creation in Earthdawn.

PS. do T'skrang shed thier skin. If i am going to post his characters abilities, i want him to loss that pesky orthoskin of his. :cyber:
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post Dec 16 2005, 05:04 PM
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T'skrang do not shed. However, if he had ortho before he SURGEd then he is in big trouble. Large parts of him would be unprotected assuming he didn't just destroy the ortho. You'd also have to decide on what sort of shapes his body took. My T'skrang has a beak like a small herbivore dinosaur and a rather large head crest that goes from his head to the base of his neck. Add to this his kangaroo sized tail and his orange and red coloration. T'skrang can be just about any form and the book talks about duckbill, spoonbill, and other shaped mouths. no crests, spiky tails, plates like a stegasaur (sp?), blue coloration, etc.

As to game abilities, BARSCILW of 22112111 with E1 and they are able to hold things with their tail (tail attack ability in ED is STR+3 steps so tail attack should be about S/2+1 in SR4).
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post Dec 16 2005, 05:08 PM
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BARSCILW of 22112111 with E1.

What?
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post Dec 16 2005, 05:09 PM
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Body Agility, etc ... with Edge 1
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post Dec 16 2005, 05:18 PM
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thanks alot.. i think during his "transformation" he will have to go to the hospital and they will have to remove his orthoskin due to his SURGE effect. I think i'll have him go through this after we do a run in glowcity to keep him guessing exactly what happend to him. Not sure where i am going to run with this, but i think it can get really fun. :grinbig:
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post Dec 16 2005, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE (hyzmarca)
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BARSCILW of 22112111 with E1.

What?

I is lazeeee...

That sounds like a pretty cool idea Cang. Is your group at all familiar with ED? If not they'll be filling their drawers with brown stuff. You may want to make the transformation gradual too to really make it look like some sort of cancer/mutation. BTW, it isn't exactly in canon ED but in my group we assume that T'skrang only have cloacas (sp?) so males and females both look exactly the same gender wise and have no easily discernable sex bits. It is canon that the males are the ones who raise the young and produce the milk for the babies. That might provide some added OMG! for the player.
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post Dec 17 2005, 12:47 AM
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Umm...

T'skrang hatch from eggs that the great dragons are keeping under magical stasis right now, because T'skrang need a certain level of ambient magic to reproduce, so if they woke up now, they couldn't.
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post Dec 17 2005, 01:32 AM
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couldn't reprduce or couldn't be in shadowrun? I am planing of him to sort of "goblinize" into one or something that looks like one.
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post Dec 17 2005, 01:43 AM
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i'm pretty sure i remember looking at a crossover information file once that mentioned someone SURGEd into what sounded suspiciously like a T'skrang.
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post Dec 17 2005, 01:58 AM
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I can fairly rule out any canon references to such a SURGEling.
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post Dec 17 2005, 02:00 AM
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Why not? They have the blood elf thorns as a SURGE effect in the book. I think maybe the only good way to use SURGE might be to add some ED splashes to Shadowrun.
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post Dec 17 2005, 02:32 AM
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Lofwyr's servant Scale appears to be a drake, along the lines of an Earthdawn drake. Scale's appearence as a lizard-man could imply the existence of T'skrang in Shadowrun as well as Earthdawn.

something from the ancient files i found :lick:
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post Dec 17 2005, 02:56 AM
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The T'skrang still exist, they're just all in hibernation, waiting until the mana levels get high enough for them to start reproducing again. There's nothing stopping them from waking up now, it's just that any that do will reduce the breeding population later on, weakening the race in general.

Earthdawn-style drakes are different in that they're magical constructs created by dragon magic, they don't reproduce naturally.
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post Dec 17 2005, 03:47 AM
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Leave it to me to bring this up but couldn't the T'Skrang if they SURGE/Awaken Early then Cluster in parts of the world with Mana Spikes produced by ManaNode clusters or Even a LOCUS?---__ {only a few places like that}:please: Or in other words--if their is a LifeRock &/or ObsidianPeople--{even fewer are possible for THAT! at this time} [being gender neutral now] around them---then the mana in that area would be high enough for them to breed?________OF COURSE THESE COULD ALL BE JUST FURTHER developments in the 6th world culture durring the 2070's___ :cyber: :grinbig: Which will a turbulent time of political reconstruction and inovation----- :spin: :twirl: :)
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post Dec 17 2005, 07:04 AM
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QUOTE (nick012000)
Umm...

T'skrang hatch from eggs that the great dragons are keeping under magical stasis right now, because T'skrang need a certain level of ambient magic to reproduce, so if they woke up now, they couldn't.

Really? Where did you read this? I must have missed it, but I would love to read up on it.

And Since I'm out of the loop, what about Obsidimen? And windlings?
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post Dec 17 2005, 10:44 AM
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If memory serves, I read it somewhere on these forums. I think it was by Ancient History, I'm not sure. *shrugs* I might be wrong.

And windlings are around, they just aren't sentient yet, if memory serves. They're the Sprites from Paranormal Animals of Europe and/or Critters.
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post Dec 17 2005, 10:54 AM
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but how do we know that they aren't sentinent yet!!--FREE THE WINDLINGS!!!!:cyber:
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post Dec 17 2005, 11:01 AM
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Because Critters says so? :D
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post Dec 17 2005, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE (boskop-albatros)
but how do we know that they aren't sentinent yet!!--FREE THE WINDLINGS!!!!:cyber:

Because they're windlings, dude.

Windlings aren't sentient. They're little bugs that pretend to be :P
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post Dec 17 2005, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE (phasmaphobic)
And Since I'm out of the loop, what about Obsidimen? And windlings?

The overall magic/mana level isn't high enough to support the existence of these races. Or powerful magic like the adepts of ED and the high-circle spells of that age.
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post Dec 17 2005, 03:36 PM
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QUOTE (phasmaphobic)
QUOTE (nick012000 @ Dec 16 2005, 04:47 PM)
Umm...

T'skrang hatch from eggs that the great dragons are keeping under magical stasis right now, because T'skrang need a certain level of ambient magic to reproduce, so if they woke up now, they couldn't.

Really? Where did you read this? I must have missed it, but I would love to read up on it.

And Since I'm out of the loop, what about Obsidimen? And windlings?

Denizens of Earthdawn Books I and II. T'skrang do indeed lay eggs, though they aren't always fertile, especially in low-mana areas.

Obsidimen are kinda like flesh-form earth spirits.
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post Dec 17 2005, 07:38 PM
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I donīt remember right now, but wasnīt there something in ED that makes it impossible for obsidimen to still exist in SR? Like they were extinct or something?
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post Dec 17 2005, 11:09 PM
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well if you look around on line you can find windling rules--(don't remember where it was and if the sit is still up)

I just wanna know if Windlings and T'Skrang can get cyber or bio mods (I'm not crazy enough to suggest modifying Obsidionmen) :cyber:
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post Dec 18 2005, 03:26 AM
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I donīt remember right now, but wasnīt there something in ED that makes it impossible for obsidimen to still exist in SR? Like they were extinct or something?

The mana level is not high enough in the current SR-setting.
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post Dec 18 2005, 05:40 AM
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I'm no loremonger, but I thought all the liferocks ended up getting mined for mineral wealth by SR's time. I seem to remember something official to that subject from the old FASA days.
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