Everyday Gear for runners Options

[Redshirt]

Good ideas. I have a feeling you play warhammer 40k. ;)

Some of the programming and weapon profiles may get touched on in an appropriate Hackers book and Cannon Companion style books in the future, so we may steer away from those types of things. Laser weapons are indeed already in 3rd edition and I imagine they will show up again in a later publication.

I do like the speargun idea though and might look into it for inclussion.
Thanks!

[Guest_MK Ultra_*]

Wasn´t there a speargun in canon compandium?

Edit: There it is (p. 31)

SS, 6M, 2kg, 3/24h, 800 :nuyen: , SI 1, SMG Range, Ammo & Conceal -

[Feshy]

Two bits of gear I had come up with and are sitting in my notes file:

Signal laser sight:
Works as a normal laser sight, but also incorporates a beam splitter / projector controller and a wireless link. Essentially you can put on your own very small laser show, or, more practically, use it for communications. For instance, you could use it to write "help is coming" on the wall behind the hostages your swat team is about to rescue, without lowering your weapon from the ready position.

Tactical Flashlight / Flashpack
Works as a normal tactical flashlight, low-light flashlight, or infra-red flashlight, but also includes a built-in flash pack.

Oh, and I'd like to point out that unless your laser spray has some very unusual optical properties, it won't work. Most laser tripwires used today are in the infra-red range, and most high-quality systems also detect any spray or fog in the air too... heck, you can measure humidity with a sensitive enough system.

[RunnerPaul]

[stevebugge]

[Aku]

one thing you might want to think about, is making most of these items "one use" or atleast, limited use, so someone can't keep using the same 24 inches of fishline or dental floss

[Redshirt]

The SCUBA stuff (originally outlined in CC I think) I plan on doing is more stuff that runners can find interesting uses for. Like my MicroSCUBA idea. Although Id like to see the of stuff like the Oxysgill.

[Redshirt]

Good point Feshy, on the lasers. what might be a suitable substitute in your opinion?

[stevebugge]

[Redshirt]

steve, looks like we might have to implement a "number of uses" (or such) in our more disposable/rechargable/ etc items. Something easily managable by players and GMs (low numbers Im thinking. Item dependant of course).

[stevebugge]

Given the highly disposable nature of a large number of consumer products in SR Canon (Vending machine clothes for example), single use for lots of things seems reasonable. It also supports the consumer convenience culture the corps need to survive and thrive. Floss for example is not durable, even when used as directed it's usually a frayed mess by the time your done with it, besides it wouldn't be sanitary to reuse so why manufacture for longevity. Your Micro-Scuba could have a re-useable mask that requires disposable pre-filled tanks. We should keep in mind that products that are disposable or have disposable components or consumeables are cash cows for maunfacturers today, and are probably even more heavily exploited in 2070. I agree our work should reflect that marketing mentality.

[Magus]

There was a scientific catalog my mother used to get me as a boy, it was called Edmunds Scientific. You could order actual lasers and stuff for projects and such nothing high end melt your face off but a laser none the less. Also there were optical kits and other cool things. I used to order from them all the time with magnets and optical lenses and cool guy stuff. Maybe you could incorporate something of the same?

[stevebugge]

See if they have a website, and post a link if you find one. It sounds cool. Maybe they will have some stuff we can use.

[RunnerPaul]

[Starfurie]

[Starfurie]

Brigade Quartermaster: Bringing the Gear to the Good Guys

[Magus]

Plus with all the other Edmunds Scientifica sites such as the one with Argon lasers and such advanced optics and magnetics. The home scientist/MacGyver type can do so much.

[stevebugge]

[IAmMarauder]

Just read through the thread, and I really like the idea. It reminds me of "The Rock" (the movie), where the Tactical guys are suiting up in webbing, checking SMGs, etc, and Sean Connerys character asks for lighter fluid, a book of matches, etc...

Some thoughts I had on this: I notice you were thinking of changing the glitch rule during creation... I probably wouldn't touch it, and just leave it as the appropriate extended test.

Upon item usage though, maybe there should be a modifier to the dice pool; something like a -1 modifier for simple items (homemade knives and simple electronics/explosives <eg homemade noise maker or a bomb made of chlorine and brake fluid>) through to -5 for the more complex items (homemade assault rifles or plastic explosive). Means that the risk is on the user of the item (although if the user is a cybered up troll, the creator would wanna be careful :P ). This could represent the possible flaws in the item. If its a success or failure, the item worked or it didn't (and remember, just because it didn't work this time, doesn't mean it won't next time). Then you have glitches, where the GM really gets to use his discretion... On a roll which succeeds but glitches, something minor happens (trigger jam, batteries fall out, the explosives are less powerful than expected, or even more powerful than expected). If it is a critical glitch, then there is something major wrong, and the item won't work until looked at (or it is banged against the wall a few times :P ).

Just some ideas, feel free to modify them to fit :)

[Redshirt]

Thanks for your interest and input.

As for the Glitch comment, well, the initial thread information has changed a great deal. Current design is focussing on ready-made, readily available gear and not a system in which players and game masters can generate the gear. So the Glitch concerns are no more.

I do like the dice pool modifier input. It will certainly be something I will consider when I get to how things effect the game.
Thanks again, more input always welcome from everyone.

[Wiz In Red]

People need to start taking tennis balls on their runs.
Seriously, think of what a tennis ball is, and think of its uses. They're yellow, bouncy, squeezable, and are easily thrown. The small amount of time it takes a street sam to track a thrown tennis ball across his range of vision is enough to pop out of cover and blow him to hell. Remember, tennis balls are bright yellow...street sams tend to be twitchy (which I've always translated to easily distracted). You can bounce them to make noise. If you throw one down a hall really hard you can really confuse someone with the sounds. You can squeeze (or bounce) a tennis ball for stress relief. In a pinch you can do a quick spray paint job and lob or roll one (yelling grenade), to make a few people take cover. Tennis balls are versitle and essential to a runner's kit 'o' stuff.

[stevebugge]

Funny you should mention that, I justs started a section for sports equipment last night in my brain storming outline.

[craigpierce]

[Nyxll]

start painting your grenades yellow ... so people think they are tennis balls, then are not worried when it rolls down the hall.

[Brahm]

They will be concerned that your balls clank. Clanking balls always concern me.