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post Mar 6 2006, 06:01 PM
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I could probably go into the 1,000 uses of a paperclip... but I wont smile.gif


You're not a former Trenchcoat Society member are you? We had such a web page once. . .

Safety pins too have a thousand uses.

I seem to recall an SR 2 book (maybe one of the fanzines?) that had adhesive strips with a name like "granite plates" -- they used barrier rating 10, or the lower of the barrier ratings of the two things it is sticking together. Apparently, the intended use was to secure computer equipment and office supplies from theiving employees (and the occasional runner.) My runners carried a small case of them to seal doors, the security team's weapons in their racks, etc. . . Less messy than spray adhesive, and faster acting!
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post Mar 6 2006, 06:22 PM
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I seem to recall an SR 2 book (maybe one of the fanzines?) that had adhesive strips with a name like "granite plates" -- they used barrier rating 10, or the lower of the barrier ratings of the two things it is sticking together. Apparently, the intended use was to secure computer equipment and office supplies from theiving employees (and the occasional runner.) My runners carried a small case of them to seal doors, the security team's weapons in their racks, etc. . . Less messy than spray adhesive, and faster acting!

If you find it summarize it and send it to me or post it, I am doing a section on various types of Tape and adhesives, this would probably fit in.
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post Mar 12 2006, 02:25 AM
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Is this project dead? Did it get too big?
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post Mar 12 2006, 06:08 AM
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The project is NOT DEAD!! :) I have been laid-up from illness and minor surgery and just now have been able to get back to normal. In fact, I was just contacting stevebugge on this project.

It is an enormous project to undertake but we are working out a project management plan to break it up into realistic portions.

Either myself or stevebugge will be having a poll soon to get some more feedback on gear.
Thanks for remaining interested! Everyone, please feel free to inject ideas!
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post Mar 18 2006, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (Feshy @ Mar 6 2006, 10:01 AM)
I seem to recall an SR 2 book (maybe one of the fanzines?) that had adhesive strips with a name like "granite plates" -- they used barrier rating 10, or the lower of the barrier ratings of the two things it is sticking together.  Apparently, the intended use was to secure computer equipment and office supplies from theiving employees (and the occasional runner.)  My runners carried a small case of them to seal doors, the security team's weapons in their racks, etc. . .  Less messy than spray adhesive, and faster acting!

If you find it summarize it and send it to me or post it, I am doing a section on various types of Tape and adhesives, this would probably fit in.

Unfortunately, all my books are 700 miles south of here, in a locked storage unit. Whatever volume of "Shadowland" I saw it in (if it really was there, and not somewhere else) is not one of the ones I had scanned (it's a lot easier to move with a hard disk than a box of books!). So I won't be able to re-read it any time soon. As for summarizing it. . . I thought I just did :P
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post May 2 2006, 06:48 AM
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How about a potato cannon? Sure, may not sound useful to a runner...at least, until you fill the potato with plastique and a detonator. "Hot potato" takes on a whole new meaning...
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post May 20 2006, 02:29 PM
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Have you looked through the anarchist cookbook (a google search of "anarchist cookbook" will find you a copy on the 2nd hit if you don't have it)

Although by 2070 it'll be a bit dated, it most certanly will have some useful homemade items in it.

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post May 20 2006, 03:18 PM
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What about uniforms? I personally don't know if you can go to the local uniform store and ask for something that looks like a cop's uniform without arousing suspicion. I'd like to see some availability on that sort of thing. Would it have a "concealability" rating to determine if someone knows you're bogus? Or would that be all about stealth and charisma?
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post May 23 2006, 06:20 PM
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You can get generic uniforms. They will have no markings on them at all. secuirty outfits buy generic cop uniforms all the time and then add their own patches and markings. So the hard part would be getting legitimate looking patches, rank pins, and other markings. By the time frame of 4th edition the uniforms will have rfids in them broadcasting the cops identification info too as an extra layer of assurance that the uniform does belong to him and he is indeed a cop.

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post May 23 2006, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE (Dog)
What about uniforms? I personally don't know if you can go to the local uniform store and ask for something that looks like a cop's uniform without arousing suspicion. I'd like to see some availability on that sort of thing. Would it have a "concealability" rating to determine if someone knows you're bogus? Or would that be all about stealth and charisma?

No it wouldn't have concealability. They would have to be treated differently depending on the situation. If it were a Con, the uniform may grant you a bonus die or two for being an effective prop. How effective it is as a disguise would probably be based off a disguise test, though the results of that disguise test may affect how "out of the ordinary" you appear to someone elses perception test. Of course the RFID tag and smart clothes will be a dead give away, the trick is to get by without them checking those in the first place.
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post Jun 6 2006, 03:33 AM
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Camp stoves/portable heaters. Nothing sucks more than being on a stakeout/recon and not being able to have a small smokeless heatsource to heat up your cup-o-soup or your hands while watching a place for commings and goings.

I’m not sure the hotpad is really necessary with the proliferation of self heating foods. Why carry around a bulky and troublesome hotplate when you can just release a calcium oxide tablet, like with Self-Heating Latte? Granted, it turns out that this perticular product was explosive, but the concept of flaming napalm latte of doom somehow fits in SR fairly well.
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post Jun 6 2006, 05:04 PM
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I think MRE type concepts definitely have a place in Shadowrun, in all likelihood the self heating stuffer is probably commonplace to some degree by 2070, even if it does taste like hot salty soy paste. If we include a section on the Stuffers We Luv (which could honestly be a project in and of itself) some of these could make it in. On the project as a whole it's a bit bogged dwon right now, we have had hundreds if not thousands of suggestions and ideas, and in the interim both of us have gotten fairly busy so progress has been somewhere between slow and nonexistent for a few months.
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post Jun 13 2006, 11:07 PM
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What? No Hammer and Iron spikes are listed? For shame! The uses of a silenced hammer (muffled really, but still) and some spikes never end, they are right up there with paperclips and safety pins.
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post Aug 2 2006, 07:41 AM
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If you know you're going to be assaulted, with a few tools you can make a building into a deathtrap where enemies will be bogged down in a fire zone they can't escape from.

Sledgehammer. Among other useful things use it to make firing ports, and try to conceal it with furniture (for example making the hole just below desk height with a desk in front it is almost impossible to spot for a standing enemy). Excellent for lobbing grenades through too. In some structures making holes in floors is an option too.

Nailgun. Nail doors and windows shut to control the environment. Nail furniture to the floor to create obstacles, either to just slow them down, to trick them (many SWAT teams may simply knock chairs away from their advance line, something that really screws them up if it is nailed to the floor) or to block doors solid - knock over a closet and nail the back panel to the floor in front of a door to make sure it doesn't open. Nail furniture to the floor so a door will only open 30 cm - it will really screw up a SWAT team making a dynamic entry.
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I think MRE type concepts definitely have a place in Shadowrun, in all likelihood the self heating stuffer is probably commonplace to some degree by 2070, even if it does taste like hot salty soy paste. If we include a section on the Stuffers We Luv (which could honestly be a project in and of itself) some of these could make it in. On the project as a whole it's a bit bogged down right now, we have had hundreds if not thousands of suggestions and ideas, and in the interim both of us have gotten fairly busy so progress has been somewhere between slow and nonexistent for a few months.

Self heating meals...
Hot Meals

In my world, they are stacked in vending machines, almost like old Coke machines.
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post Sep 3 2006, 10:24 PM
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I'm really interested in what progress has been made already. Posting a teaser with examples of what's been done would be great.

Anyway we could get a preview?
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post Sep 3 2006, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE (Samaels Ghost)
I'm really interested in what progress has been made already. Posting a teaser with examples of what's been done would be great.

Anyway we could get a preview?

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post Nov 10 2006, 10:56 PM
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I have put up some misc basic items that my players have asked for and there is no basic price in the book(s). So when I make up a price/availiblity, I then put it up on the website for everyone to see. If you see anything you like, please use! if you dont, then dont.

DoG XinU industries (main site)
DoG XinU industries (gear page)
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post Nov 11 2006, 03:56 PM
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pantyhose huh?
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post Nov 13 2006, 07:46 PM
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BALING WIRE!!! it fixes some things, breaks others, and makes booby trapping a cinch. Nothing like even a simple trip wire taking down the point man to send a SWAT or other entry team into confusion. Now tie it off to the pin of mr. grenade!

And my favorite tool for dealing with mechanical locks, a fire extinguisher, spray, then smash, breaks the lock without sending the door halfway across the room, and is quiter than a boot or a string of detcord.

Chemlites (pretty sure I saw them already)

Bandanas. Everything from stylin headgear to a tourniquet.

Oh and for a fun quick non lethal round, keep a magazine of blank ammunition and a rifle cleaning rod section. Just dont plan on using the cleaning rod again. Usually within 10 feet you can staple someones arm or leg to the wall. Not to mention the whole "HOLY CRAP MY ARM HAS A FOOT LONG PIECE OF METAL IN IT" factor takes the guy out of the fight.

The downside, your weapon is now SS

hmmm.... IR strobes. Fun for killing thermographic vision. Drop some in a room with the light out, turn them on right after the room is breached, take out the tac team with a flashlight. We had so much fun with this while training with the thermal sight it shoulda been illegal.

portable dirty nukes - for when the run has gone horribly horribly wrong, go out with a bang.

Spray on glue - it sticks things to other things.

Solvents - it unsticks things from other things

Paint thinner - what can't you do with this stuff?

An unarmed combat adept - because someone has to carry all this stuff

Jumper Cables - because your rigger plugged in his VCR, and then turned off the engine... again

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post Apr 2 2007, 09:06 PM
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Snip It - these little things ROCK they can cut through almost any thing they can fit around. Fun for flexi cuffs all for :nuyen: 2
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portable dirty nukes - for when the run has gone horribly horribly wrong, go out with a bang

...or you want the run to start with one...hehhehheh :vegm:

...that's how Drek the Halls started, Well not a real nuke, just an ordinary run of the mill household dirty car bomb.
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Dirty nukes are very portable, and there's nothing interesting about them. We need some rules for portable regular nukes.

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Last time my drone rigger went into utility tunnels, I suddenly thought of this item then convinced the GM that the PC would already have one: Relay Cable. 100 meters of data-cable, with a Signal 3 transceiver at either end. One end deep in the tunnel, one end outside, so that a PC in the tunnel can have communication with the drones/vehicles/listening post "upstairs". Also useful for effectively extending drone range by 900m (in one direction only, though).

Car Wars has lotsa item ideas. Fire Extinguisher, $100. Fire-suppresant foam grenade, $50. Firefighting system built into the engine of a vehicle, $500.

Paint, one bucket bright orange, one bucket dull gray.

Tarp. (Admiral Akbar: "It's a tarp!")
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pantyhose huh?

yeah! the players want to put it over their heads to do a "robery"...
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