 LOST: 1 Totem. small, furry, Gray, White, reward for info |
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Raccoon?! Where is Raccoon?!
I got 4e for Christmas and I was shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, to find that the totem section does not contain Raccoon. Take a look in your old 1st ed. book, see there, next to that cool totem pole picture? Raccoon. 2nd ed., 3rd ed? Raccoon, right there. Where has he gone? Did they all die out by 2070? My world makes no longer makes sense. *whimper* ...raccooooooon.... |
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Dec 28 2005, 07:23 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 26 Joined: 25-December 05 Member No.: 8,103 |
Looks like Phoenix from bestiary died out too :| .
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Dec 28 2005, 07:24 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
The Phoenix will be back. :D
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Dec 28 2005, 07:26 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Relax. The Mentor Spirits list is not comprehensive. They brought in Mentors that are appropriate for Hermetics and Idol Followers in the basic book, and that meant that some of the shamanic totems had to go. Some of them will probably be back later, for example in Street Magic.
If you wanted a Raccoon Mentor right now, you'd be looking at something like: Benefits: +2 Dice for Manipulation spells, +2 Dice to Palming tests. Penalties: Composure test to avoid stealing major valuable items. -Frank |
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Dec 28 2005, 07:58 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
IIRC a direct conversion would be +2 Manipulation spells, +2 spirits of Man, -1 Combat spells.
That's not to say that there will be a direct conversion when Raccoon gets published again. Look at what happened to Snake, for instance. |
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Dec 28 2005, 08:48 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
And if you don´t like an official version, make your own. You are finally able to make the boni/mali reflect your characters view of his totem. Yay Gargoyle, here I come.
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Dec 28 2005, 10:27 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110 |
Funny thing is also the disapearance of the coyote totem. Why is it funny you ask? Because the book make a reference to a coyote shaman somewhere (can't find the exact page right now) in such a manner: 'and try to make a coyote shaman do something he dont whant to' . Altho it is pretty obvious for players who have played other editions, since coyote is no more cannon, this sentence refer to nothing for new players.
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Dec 28 2005, 10:30 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
Aye. Although I believe we're supposed to be using the Trickster to represent (the previous interpretation of) Coyote.
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Dec 28 2005, 10:40 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110 |
hum... not sure, I'll have to check, of course, but /me think the trickster was as-is in a magic book of 3rd ed.
As Riff would say: Let me check my notes. |
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Dec 28 2005, 11:26 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 |
the reference to coyote is in the magic section, iirc, where it mentions why mages are more commonly employed by corporations than shamans.
specifically, it says something to the effect of "you try telling coyote he only gets an hour for lunch." |
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Dec 28 2005, 11:31 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110 |
*nod*
Thats the sentence. as a side note: you guys use 'iirc' quite a lot; mind explaining what it means? |
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Dec 28 2005, 11:46 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
If I Remember/Recall Correctly.
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Dec 29 2005, 12:02 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110 |
Thanks alot Adam!
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