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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 ![]() |
Yes the question of just what is stuffer shack has come to a boiling point in our group. We rotate GM duties and depending on who's running Stuffer Shack either resembles a 7-11 (a 24 hour convenience store specializing in overpriced pseudo food, beer, soda, and magazines), sometimes with a gas pump or it Resembles a certain well known pseudo-burger joint with a pair of yellow arches (which is what I thought Nukit Burgers were). Somehow or other Starbucks survived in our games too which is just scary in and of itself (does anyone else think they are evil enough to be a subsidiary of Aztechnology?) Anyway what's everyones take on the Stuffer Shack, Convenience Store, Fast Food Joint, Regular Grocery, something else entirely?
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 197 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,542 ![]() |
It's like a Convenience Store/small Wal-Mart. McHugh's is the fast food killing zone.
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110 ![]() |
you could see the stuffer shack as a mix between a (small)wallmart and a convenience store
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Resident Legionnaire ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,136 Joined: 8-August 04 From: Usually Work Member No.: 6,550 ![]() |
I always thought of it as kindof a AM/PM market with a cook and no gas pumps.
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 88 Joined: 28-December 05 From: Québec Member No.: 8,110 ![]() |
well Lazarus, you beat me to it :)
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,011 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
White Hen.
~J |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 ![]() |
SR1 refered to it as a supermarket chain. Both SR1 and First Run use the analogy of "a half dozen chimpanzees going wild in your local supermarket."
However, the size of the stores indicated on both version of the map suggest something more along the lines of "large convenience store" or "neighborhood corner market" than a supermarket, I would say. To me, at least the terms "supermarket" and "small wal-mart" imply a bank of checkout lanes at the front of the store. Both Stuffer Shack maps had a single checkout counter in the corner by the door. |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 ![]() |
Yeah I knew McHugh's. I don't include them that way in my game, the McHugh's Restaurants are pretty nice and quite an institution in Seattle, that and I worked for Mick McHugh's brother Tucker's coffee company for a while (Caffe Appassionato, really good stuff). http://www.tsmchughs.com/ an example of a McHugh's Restaurant |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 ![]() |
Those are the sort of things that confuse things. |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,086 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 364 ![]() |
Oh, and for what it's worth, the scale on the map for the SR1 Stuffer Shack gives dimensions of 36 x 30 meters, and that's including the back room areas as well. That's a small Dollar General, or a decent sized 7-11.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 197 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,542 ![]() |
The McHugh's in SR is like McDonalds except it has ungodly security complete with knockout gas and plastic tables that provide no cover. I think it was meant as a joke in SR1.
Of course the layout is sort of messed up for what they sell but in the SR1 and the First Run book they sell everything from food and radon kits to cheap furniture. So to me it has the feel of an oversized convenience store or a small Wal-mart with one check out. It’s basically local crappy chain store at its finest. The perfect place to destroy as a little side thing. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 ![]() |
Ah the good old Stuffer Shack, it seems everytime i play a game; shit goes down in the Shack?
**Insert sarcasm here**why is this, some one tell me? |
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#13
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 10-July 05 Member No.: 7,492 ![]() |
I've always seen Stuffer Shacks as a sort of generic small store. Most have food, some have other stuff. You could probably pick up a TV, and, with the right checks, a couple of automatic weapons.
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 ![]() |
Not quite as big as Walmart or Target, but much more selection than a Wawa or 7/11.
It doesn't have the selection of the bigger stores but it has more than the smaller ones. It is NOT a fast food joint. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 903 Joined: 7-February 03 Member No.: 4,025 ![]() |
Maybe SS is run by Aztechnology, too?
Well, in my game they are. As is Starbucks, and Wal-Mart, and every other place where I hate to love to waste my money. It's the retail equivalent of a skanky hooker. You do it because it's cheap and easy, but you desperately feel the need for a shower afterwards. Oh, my description is basically a 7-11 clone. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 944 Joined: 19-February 03 Member No.: 4,128 ![]() |
Aztechnology seems to have a lock on consumer goods, so I'd be surprised if the owner trail _didn't_ eventually lead back to AZT.
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 ![]() |
7-11 with gas pumps. And I thought Stuffer Shacks were definitely owned by Aztechnology in canon. I have no sources, but it my be in the Spraw Survival Guide. I have the PDF, I'll check soon and repost.
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 ![]() |
Nope, not in SSG.
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 ![]() |
I know this, we still call them McDonalds in our game because of the confusion with the RL McHugh's restaurants (TS McHugh's and FX McRory's). There are some difficulties with playing SR and actually living in Seattle, most notably that the Game Designers weren't from here and so some of the Seattle Canon material borders on ridiculous to those of us who are from here. |
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,453 Joined: 17-September 04 From: St. Paul Member No.: 6,675 ![]() |
I run out of Minneapolis/St. Paul when I run a game. Solves a lot of problems... |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950 ![]() |
LMAO! :rotfl: It is the same in our game, starbucks has survived and i think we did a run where we found it to be an Azzy subsidiary. I always thought of Stuffer Shack as kindof a Biglots store combined with a Sheetz gas station, minus the pumps. Some food to order, convinence store, and random cheap drek laying around. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 751 Joined: 7-June 02 From: Hamilton.LTG.on.ca Member No.: 2,853 ![]() |
I just looked at it as a giant convienent store open 24/7.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 204 Joined: 27-October 05 From: Waterloo, ON Member No.: 7,900 ![]() |
Only it's the size of an A&P, allowing for frequent running gunfights in them.
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 ![]() |
Corporate Download
It reminds me of the two closest CVS stores to my old apartment almost exactly to the layout, contents, and complete disregard for ADA (SS aisles are small for trolls, CVS aisles couldn't fit a wheelchair) regs. |
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 ![]() |
I think Stuffer Shack doesn't exist physically, but as a symbol. A symbol of stagnant, chain-store America. One is unable to discern what exactly the store does because the chains have become so interchangeable in their repetition that it does not matter to the shopper anymore which chain he shops at, but whether or not he has shopped in a place he has shopped in a thousand times before, and will shop at a thousand times again out of sheer apathy.
So in other words, I have no idea. |
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