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post Dec 31 2005, 04:04 PM
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Okay, so maybe "Stuffer Shack" is a generic street-name for any convenience store or variation thereof? Around here, we call 'em all Kwick-E Marts. The only place to rent Bollywood!
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post Dec 31 2005, 06:09 PM
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I still think it's an uncharacteristically absurdist fixture; its function and specifications keep changing as a symbolic comment on the nature of large chain stores and corporate consumerist America.
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post Dec 31 2005, 11:12 PM
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On a side note, I know people who've worked for Starbucks before, and whatever else you have to say about them (I've no love for them myself), they actually treat their employees quite well. Not very Azzie-like. Of course, there's no telling who might have bought it out by the 2050s, but it might still be around as an A or AA corp, rather than a AAA mega.

As for Stuffer Shack, I always envisioned a convenience store, myself, maybe with a bit more variety in product (but probably many made by susidiaries of Aztechnology, which owns the Stuffer Shack franchise).

But yes, it is also probably supposed to symbolize the death of the small, local, friendly businesses in the wake of megacorp-owned, uncaring, franchises with cheap, crappy products.
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post Dec 31 2005, 11:52 PM
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I don't drink coffee. What do people hate about Starbucks? And what do you mean "treat their employees well?" Do they pay them a lot?
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post Jan 1 2006, 12:52 AM
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They give them benefits, which is to say medical insurance, if they work a mere 23 hours per week. These days, when many corporations are slashing their full-time employees' pensions, offering your part-timers medical is pretty magnanimous. And apparently there's a lot of room for upward mobility, since new stores are constantly opening and thus require new managers, who are apparently recruited from among the baristas.

And I actually haven't had been to a Starbucks since I started drinking coffee regularly, but there's a variety of reasons people don't like them, including an inherent distrust of anything that's deemed a "corporation" and given the near-immunity to legality that label implies. I personally just don't like that there's so frickin' many of the damned things, or that they seem to have been at the forefront of many moronic coffee-related trends ranging from the naming system to the pricing, but I don't really care that much. For other people it's a big deal, but I'm not a big coffee drinker in general, and I already have a regular place to get it when I am.
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post Jan 1 2006, 01:37 AM
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Yeah,

Stuffer shacks have always made me think of the 7-11 or Plaid Pantry down on the corner. Good place to get your 40 of Spud Beer & a bag of "Soy Rinds".

Now I always thought that Nukit Burger was more the Mc Doanld's of the Shadowrun world (Or quite possibly the White Castle or In & Out Burger).

One chain I brought in to my campaigns was from my days down in New Orleans - Takee Outee. These were hole in the wall shops where you could walk up & get Tempura or Asian BBQ shrimp/chicken on a skewer for a buck (of course that was back just a few years).
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post Jan 1 2006, 03:17 AM
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post Jan 1 2006, 05:52 AM
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There's one of those in Northern California (or Oregon or something). We have a menu from the place!
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post Jan 1 2006, 06:28 AM
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I've got a couple "Nacho Mamas" (slightly different spelling) in my hometown area.
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post Jan 1 2006, 06:34 AM
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Stuffer Shacks are the 7-11's of Shadowrun. Many vary in size, layout & stock. Compare a 'typical' 7-11 in a more suburban area to one in a major metropolitan center, where space is at a premium. Even today, sometimes I slip & call a 7-11 a Stuffer Shack.
McHugh's = McDonald's
Isn't there a fast-food rival to McHugh's? Like a Burger King?
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post Jan 1 2006, 06:53 AM
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QUOTE (BookWyrm @ Jan 1 2006, 01:34 AM)
McHugh's = McDonald's
Isn't there a fast-food rival to McHugh's? Like a Burger King?

If I had to guess, I'd say the listing for "Regal Burgers" in the original Seattle Sourcebook counts as a trademark-sanitized version of Burger King. While McHugh's is a prime candidate for being the trademark-sanitized version of McDonalds, there were earlier references to a chain called "The Golden Archers". There's also Nukit Burgers, which while it is a chain, has it's original restaurant in Downtown Seattle at the intersection of 5th Avenue and Lenora St.
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post Jan 3 2006, 10:15 AM
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Speaking of Nukit Burger, ever since a GM of mine had us make resistance rolls for not being addicted to the "special" sauce they use it has been a reacorring event in your campaigns. Kinda like MacDonald's, there is something that keep making you come back.
Anyone else do something similar?
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post Jan 3 2006, 10:17 AM
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post Jan 3 2006, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE (Jrayjoker)
QUOTE (stevebugge @ Dec 30 2005, 10:36 AM)
There are some difficulties with playing SR and actually living in Seattle, most notably that the Game Designers weren't from here and so some of the Seattle Canon material borders on ridiculous to those of us who are from here.

I run out of Minneapolis/St. Paul when I run a game. Solves a lot of problems...

for realz? I'm in Saint Cloud... ever do a run on the metrodome?
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post Jan 3 2006, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE (RunnerPaul)
Downtown Seattle at the intersection of 5th Avenue and Lenora St.

Plausible. Today there is a parking lot, a Sushi Joint, a King's Inn (cheap motel), and a nicer Hotel (that is clockwise from the Northwest Corner). For Reference the Monorail Track runs over 5th Avenue.
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post Jan 3 2006, 07:21 PM
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All this talk about fast food reminds me of our group's trip to LA, and our encounter with the Turducken franchise.

We don't know the area, want to grab a bite, and feel like non-soy meat. So we come across this place claiming to serve real Turkey, Duck and Chicken, and figure, what the hell, we'll give it a try...

Inside, we're a little thrown off by the enormous female troll running the place (who, to my dwarven sam's barely concealed horror, acts flirtatious - I'm not sure to this day whether she did it to have a lilttle fun with the out of towner, or seriously...), and the surprisingly low prices, but we're tired, so we stick with it.

We attempt to order, and it comes out that the specialty of the place is turkey-stuffed-with-duck-stuffed-with-chicken... Our inquiries into where exactly they come by so much poultry are coyly evaded, and attempts on our part to backpedal on the "real meat" idea (done with the usual subtlety of a group of runners who just had a sudden outbreak of paranoia) met with something approaching panic (hard to tell with a troll... is she furious at you, or worried about her job?), so we get a couple of orders, are served nice portions of pretty good looking (and smelling) turkey-duck-chicken-loaf, mashed potatoes and veggies, and also get salads, fries and sodas to alleviate suspicion and round out the order...

Some members of the team are now firmly convinced that Turducken is Made From People! (though the more reasonable idea that they simply make really high-quality fake meat and aren't used to having their workings examined by a group of professional paranoids coming down from a run is floated too), and the dish is carefully inspected. God knows what the poor clerk is thinking, as we sit there, whispering words like "vehicle sensors" and "gas spectrometer", and using microscopic vision to examine the Turducken's cross-section...

We finally eat it after my dwarven sam feels sorry for the clerk (who is by this point wringing her hands and looking near to tears - and not very Sweeney Todd like), and figures it can't be so bad as to be a match for a dwarven constitution, and takes a bite - which turns out to be surprisingly good, but doesn't quite answer the lingering questions... We leave LA, somewhat relieved they don't have franchises in Chicago.
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post Jan 3 2006, 07:39 PM
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Not a football fan?

John Madden makes a Turducken every Thanksgiving, and as far as I know he is the originator.

I've never had one, but it sure looks good.
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post Jan 3 2006, 07:39 PM
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QUOTE (mmu1)
All this talk about fast food reminds me of our group's trip to LA, and our encounter with the Turducken franchise.

We don't know the area, want to grab a bite, and feel like non-soy meat. So we come across this place claiming to serve real Turkey, Duck and Chicken, and figure, what the hell, we'll give it a try...

Inside, we're a little thrown off by the enormous female troll running the place (who, to my dwarven sam's barely concealed horror, acts flirtatious - I'm not sure to this day whether she did it to have a lilttle fun with the out of towner, or seriously...), and the surprisingly low prices, but we're tired, so we stick with it.

We attempt to order, and it comes out that the specialty of the place is turkey-stuffed-with-duck-stuffed-with-chicken... Our inquiries into where exactly they come by so much poultry are coyly evaded, and attempts on our part to backpedal on the "real meat" idea (done with the usual subtlety of a group of runners who just had a sudden outbreak of paranoia) met with something approaching panic (hard to tell with a troll... is she furious at you, or worried about her job?), so we get a couple of orders, are served nice portions of pretty good looking (and smelling) turkey-duck-chicken-loaf, mashed potatoes and veggies, and also get salads, fries and sodas to alleviate suspicion and round out the order...

Some members of the team are now firmly convinced that Turducken is Made From People! (though the more reasonable idea that they simply make really high-quality fake meat and aren't used to having their workings examined by a group of professional paranoids coming down from a run is floated too), and the dish is carefully inspected. God knows what the poor clerk is thinking, as we sit there, whispering words like "vehicle sensors" and "gas spectrometer", and using microscopic vision to examine the Turducken's cross-section...

We finally eat it after my dwarven sam feels sorry for the clerk (who is by this point wringing her hands and looking near to tears - and not very Sweeney Todd like), and figures it can't be so bad as to be a match for a dwarven constitution, and takes a bite - which turns out to be surprisingly good, but doesn't quite answer the lingering questions... We leave LA, somewhat relieved they don't have franchises in Chicago.

Wait, what's the problem now? It may be people? I have a hard time believing that silly anti-canabalism social taboos would remain in SR, considering how many people survive on a diet of people. You go over to your ghoul friends' house for and you eat what they are serving, simple as that.
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post Jan 3 2006, 07:40 PM
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One a side note, they sell Turducken on the internet.

wikipedia source on Turducken
Though, I would NOT be surprised if it was made during the middle ages, some variation of it. They were known to have made layered meat dishes, especially for banquets.

Though, from the guiness book of world records I had as a kid, there was a dish on the records made for a banquet of some wealthy middle eastern royalty that was comprised of a camel stuffed with a sheep stuffed with a something else, and it went down to duck, chicken, something smaller, and it rounded out with an egg. That was a weird dish.
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post Jan 3 2006, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE (The Stainless Steel Rat)
Not a football fan?

John Madden makes a Turducken every Thanksgiving, and as far as I know he is the originator.

I've never had one, but it sure looks good.

Well, our 2055 characters certainly didn't know much about John Madden - or any kind of complex real-meat dish.

And it all looks different when you're tired, jumpy, and being served by a 10' troll with a carving knife. :P
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post Jan 3 2006, 08:15 PM
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And according to Wiki, Madden did not originate Turducken. Take that for what you will.

What interests me about the wiki article is the two variants mentioned, one where you wrap a Turduken in ostrich, and the other where you stuff a Turducken with a cornish game hen, which is then stuffed with a pheasant, and finally stuffed with a quail. Why no one's tried to combine the two concepts into an Osturduckencorpheail, I don't know. Sooner or later though, someone's going to do it.
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post Jan 3 2006, 08:17 PM
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Well, RunnerPaul, now that you've finally answered the mystery of how it would be spelled, someone can go ahead and do it. :D
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post Jan 3 2006, 08:59 PM
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Yeah, I have always seen it as a 7-11 type store. Plus the fact that i have oodles of plans for those simple convience stores helps...
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post Jan 3 2006, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE (PBTHHHHT)
One a side note, they sell Turducken on the internet.

wikipedia source on Turducken
Though, I would NOT be surprised if it was made during the middle ages, some variation of it. They were known to have made layered meat dishes, especially for banquets.

Though, from the guiness book of world records I had as a kid, there was a dish on the records made for a banquet of some wealthy middle eastern royalty that was comprised of a camel stuffed with a sheep stuffed with a something else, and it went down to duck, chicken, something smaller, and it rounded out with an egg. That was a weird dish.

I found a reference:
Stuffed Camel
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post Jan 3 2006, 09:17 PM
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sweet, my memory was correct and I did read something in the guiness book of world records regarding a stuffed camel. lol.

However, eating camel flesh is not unknown especially in bedouin life.
see here and here.

I think that it is within the realm of possibility that they've tried it. Didn't say they did or not, but definitely within the realm of being possible.
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