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Karma Police  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505  |
There are a few small things that you can change to make nick's character not look like a transvestite (because she kinda does).
First, the face has masculine features. The chin is very wide and the cheek bones are actually extremely wide and square. The face would be uncommonly masculine even on a man. Second, the boobs look fake. The reason is they're very round, and if they were round because they're pushed up by the corset—they would be placed much higher up on her chest. Boobs that pout out that much on top are generaly puched up beneath the chin. I'd place them just beneath were the shadows of the collarbones are. I guarantee you that she will look more feminine if you change those two things. Keep up the good work. Because other than the above, the style is fabulous. Your sense of detail and imagination to vary those details far surpasses mine. |
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Feb 16 2006, 03:33 PM
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i like it a lot :D thx awesome drawing |
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Feb 16 2006, 05:00 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
Kasheu
Glad it works, try not to focus on the different sized guns, heh. I kinda rushed it. Mintcar Yeah, Women drawings still turn out weird with me sometimes because I grew up drawing male super heroes with big muscles and strong chins. Sometimes I get going and don't always notice till it is too late. I used a reference picture for this, and, I swear to god, the woman had a thick neck like that and wide shoulders+the low slung jubblies. maybe it wasn't the best of references though. Anyway, I've decided to start up a new drawing of her, take it in a different direction. |
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Feb 16 2006, 05:33 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Nice representation. Refreshing. Not overdone in certain parts of the anatomy like I usually see female characters drawn. I have frequently taken flak for my own character drawings of women because they weren't "well endowed" or sexy enough. Years ago I was involved with comic book art, and always wondered how those women superheroes could fight with so much "mass" up front. Even when they were supposed to be teenagers, they were built like more like models for the SI Swimsuit issue. Just take a look at Kate Pride & Jubilee from the X-Men and try to convince me those are thirteen year old girls. |
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Feb 16 2006, 06:35 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
It'd be difficult to convince me they're human. But it's really just a style. Anime girls don't exactly have realistic proportions either (mostly). In those comic book styles, there are no different body types. Everyone is drawn after the same model, unless there's a point to be made of them being either extremely fat or extremely thin. I don't follow a mould in that way. Instead I just go with the build that I think fits the character. |
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Feb 16 2006, 09:47 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
Okay, I worked my ass off on this, but hopefully now she looks more feminine. I think I learned a little something working on this edit, so hopefully I will be able to do women better in the future:
RazorBlade Redone |
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Feb 16 2006, 09:56 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
:spin: :grinbig: :rotfl: :D :) :rotate:
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Feb 16 2006, 10:04 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Good point... Carmine Infantino used Playboy centrefolds as his model for drawing women. I also have a copy of "How to Draw Comics - The Marvel Way" which does teach the generic comic book style. In production art things have to stay simple, particularly when it involves a team effort and frequently rotating staff. Each artist does lend their own "look" to a book, but still within a set convention. As a matter of fact, it is more the inker who more determines the style in comics than the penciller. Witness John Byrne. When he did his first stint for Marvel on X-Men I was impressed. However a couple of years later I realised it was not Byrne, but his inker Terry Austin who really made the book look so good, when he (Austin) did some work on a DC anthology comic over pencils by a friend of mine named Dennis Jensen. Looked just like the X-Men stuff even though Jensen's pencil style was completely different than Byrne's. Eventually I dropped out of mainstream comics (even many of the so called "indies" like Dark Horse & Valiant) & instead developed a liking for some of the small press efforts that tended more towards a sensible visual portrayal of female characters. |
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Feb 16 2006, 10:34 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
Have you done anything that I might have seen Kyoto Kid?
Btw. I have a copy of HTDCTMW signed by Stan Lee that I got at a Gothenburg book convention when I was 12 or something. Thought me alot. Then I went to art school and drew a lot of live nude models. Thing is that before then I really couldn't draw regular looking bodies, just muscular men and thin women. Heh. Now I don't draw anymore at all. These few quick character drawings is all I've done in years. I found out I wasn't motivated to draw past visualizing rpg characters. |
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Feb 17 2006, 05:34 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Nothing major. Mostly backup & fill in work, nothing that garnered a byline. After living several weeks in NYC (mind you this was the late 70s & New York was quite a different city then) I had enough of the hectic & oft dangerous lifestyle there, boarded a train & returned to the teeming metropolis of Stevens Point Wi. Basically, back then if you wanted to get a start at either Marvel or DC (which were about the only acts "in town"), you HAD to live in New York. Tried to go indie myself, but the startup costs were a bit too much. Ended up in Computers (when the PC in the home was still the realm of Science Fiction) which at least offered a steady lifestyle. SInce then, I have been content to do the "$5 convention sketch" gig from time to time & provide drawings as setting aids for the FRP adventures and campaigns I ran. Yeah, I still have a few story ideas kicking around, including what has grown into a major length SF work as well as a plot based on my character Leela & the last campaign I ran. However, Both of these are really too big to do as even a graphic novel and with my physical condition, such a project at this point would be more than daunting. BTW, interested in taking a stab at Leela yourself? The full description appears earlier in this thread. Again, I like to see different interpetations too. |
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Feb 17 2006, 10:44 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ontari-airee-o Member No.: 1,115 |
Why not just do it as a web strip?? You could always get some help with it as well. Most of the best strips are partnerships. I know I would be willing to pitch in to help out.
Currently I follow control-alt-delete Penny Arcade Dr McNinja Pet Professional but have been looking for something closer to shadowrun. |
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Feb 18 2006, 06:43 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Both of these are basically novel length stories that do not lend themselves well to a strip or graphic format. The SF Idea has become very large, taking up nearly a bookshelf for all of the cultural, character bio, and historical notes, sketches of settings, characters, plans of ships, maps of worlds etc.. The background for Rhapsody in Shadow (Leela's story) now comprises about 80 pages of text. |
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Feb 19 2006, 08:20 AM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
I might get around to it some day 8) All I can say is that it'll be first in line when I feel like doing a sketch again. |
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Feb 19 2006, 08:05 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 19-February 06 Member No.: 8,279 |
This character originally started out as a joke during a Las Vegas campaign. There was an incident during a run on the Tropicana which involved a (highly illegal) Yeti barbecue. Draw her and you will win a million internets- I mean wireless matrices. If I tried to draw it would look like a fugly stick figure.
Gina - "Pornomancer" Weekly performances at the Tropicana's Tropics Lounge, part of Showgirls of Magic. Tan, thin, somewhat flat chested, thin nose. Dancing and magic specialties. Human, female Age: 23, looks about 20 Hair: Iridescent purple, short, 1920's hairstyle (no curls) Visible Bioware: Cat's eyes Visible Cyberware: Cosmetic mods: Fox ears (pierced, nuyen symbol earrings), fox tail Clothing: Knee length skirt, loose sleeveless top with lace at edges ties together at the neck, AR gloves, stockings, high heels. Tattoos: Biohazard symbol on right upper arm. Armament: Hammerli 620S (attached laser sight) in thigh holster. Pose: Feminine smoking, cigarette holder Use it in your portfolio, I don't care. |
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Feb 20 2006, 07:54 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
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Feb 20 2006, 08:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 668 Joined: 15-February 05 From: Ontario, Canada Member No.: 7,086 |
Neat. Many thanks |
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Feb 21 2006, 03:38 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
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Feb 21 2006, 06:50 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
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Feb 21 2006, 10:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 176 Joined: 7-September 05 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 7,706 |
hey Squinky
I gots me a drawing to shows off... It's my half-assed version of my troll character http://artpad.art.com/?iv18ans4vw0 this artpad thing is cool |
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Feb 21 2006, 11:00 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
Awesome. :D |
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Feb 21 2006, 11:30 AM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
That's 3 very competent renditions of female characters right there! You seem to have overcome your problems in a flash. Beautiful!
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Feb 21 2006, 01:09 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,144 Joined: 22-September 04 Member No.: 6,690 |
Are you up for taking any more requests at the current time?
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Feb 21 2006, 04:27 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
Chuck
Heh, awesome Chuck! I can't stand drawing with those things usaully, they lack the control I expect. I used to frequent a whiteboard that let other people draw with you at the same time, that was pretty cool. Mintcar Yeah, I hit the anatomy books for a bit, and posted my female face issues on an art board. Thanks for saying they are better. Nick Heh, sorry it took so long. Thanks for pointing out the she-male. Mr.Smith Yep, just list in detail your character and I will add it to the list. Of course I just woke up and found out that I had left my fine tip pen open all night, so that kinda sucks. I wouldn't mind if I could actually buy another in my town, but I have to drive an hour to get another....grr-cheese... |
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Feb 21 2006, 05:17 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
ouch, that sucks, i went to art school (for video/film/audio production, not graphic design though) but i know how painful it can be to let any of those art pens out even for a half hour to an hour
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Feb 21 2006, 05:29 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ontari-airee-o Member No.: 1,115 |
soak the end in nail polish remover for about 10 minutes, that might help unclog it ... I recommend you look into "teck" pens. You refill them in india ink, and are really awesome to work with.
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