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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377  |
Teck pens? I'll have to check those out.
I currently use these Micron technical pens, .01 for the big lines and .005 for the faces and little stuff. I have a hard time finding even those here in Idaho, and I'm wondering how hard it will be to find these Teck pens to try out, heh. I am really looking into using nibs eventually, but again, it appears I'll have to order those in if I want a go at em. |
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Feb 21 2006, 05:44 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ontari-airee-o Member No.: 1,115 |
http://www.reuels.com/reuels/product20465.html
We used the rapidograph technical drafting pens in college. They are really nice to work with, especially on vellum. |
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Feb 21 2006, 09:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 176 Joined: 7-September 05 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 7,706 |
i used to have a set of those pens...
lost in time or moving from Apt to Apt i still have the big bottle of ink i would use to refill them with :| |
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Feb 21 2006, 09:29 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,635 Joined: 27-November 05 Member No.: 8,006 |
Me too. I even laid out the extra money to buy the finest tipped in the model that had a coating of translucent red on the end. I think it was sold as jewel tiped, but I don't know what the material was. It sure wrote smooth. That was decades ago though.
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Feb 21 2006, 09:35 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Most definitely. Now I am curious to see how the kid would look redux. |
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Feb 21 2006, 09:56 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
Wow, those are some spendy pens! Heh, and I was unhappy about dropping a fiver on my pen, wow. I book-marked them though, it could be really worth it to try them out.
And Kyoto, I went ahead and put in a re-do of leela in the list up front, so it is definately gonna happen. |
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Feb 21 2006, 10:11 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 139 Joined: 14-October 05 Member No.: 7,844 |
I complained when my .3 Sakura Micron dried out. It was only like a $2 pen. Have you tried inking in Photoshop? My hands shake a lot so I decided to go digital. It's a lot more forgiving.
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Feb 21 2006, 10:21 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
I have messed with inking in Photoshop and Illustrator, but just wasn't digging it. My hands shake a good deal too, and I have this weird tightness in the pinky side of my hand, hurts when I sleep and sometimes I can barely move my hand without a strange sort of pain. But I still enjoy inking by hand, weirdly enough. It seems to get in there and knock out the details way faster, and much better.
I have a wacom, but the surface is to smooth for me, and when I do use it, I have to put a piece of rough paper over it to do anything with it. |
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Feb 21 2006, 10:38 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,635 Joined: 27-November 05 Member No.: 8,006 |
I know it is on the expensive side, making those technical pens look cheap, but if you have some sort of coverage you might look into a physiotherapist or a massage therapist that specializes in tendon stretching. You'll find the type that should be able to help you at a clinic that specializes in soft tissue pain. That is what it sort of sounds like, something torqued up the wrong way. The good ones will first get you on the mend in a session or few and but also set you up some home exersizes so you don't have to keep going back. If they are really good they'll be too busy to want a high repeat customer coming in. |
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Feb 22 2006, 01:24 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,138 Joined: 10-June 03 From: Tennessee Member No.: 4,706 |
Wow, simply amazing. You've really done a great job with that one, Squinky.
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Feb 22 2006, 09:20 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 176 Joined: 7-September 05 From: Austin, TX Member No.: 7,706 |
I gots me one of those too that's what i was using for that artpad drawing still haven't quite got used to it though What I've been doing is a rough sketch in PS using the tablet. Then import it into Flash and "trace" it using the line tool. That way i can use it for toon or something... anywho... |
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Feb 22 2006, 09:50 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Great. Especially loved Tinker Gnome's Nvwati. Excellent pose and nice proportions. Keep in mind Leela's rather petite, almost child like in appearance even though she was 18-19 during her career as a runner. BTW, I also used tech pens - Mars Matic. Bought them way back in my college days for about $60 (set of 10 w/bow compass & attachments). In today's economy the same set would be nearly double the cost. Unfortunately lost track of them after several moves. |
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Feb 22 2006, 10:02 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
those three definately look more femanine to me, the only thing i would say, and perhaps its just my horrible perception of body-depth, but it looks like on both Razor and Vvwati, the breasts appear just a tad off. On Razor, the one looks to be perky and firm, while the other is a bit looser, while in nvwati, they appear to be of different sizes.
But they're still VERY good drawings, better than i could ever do. |
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Feb 22 2006, 10:16 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
Brahm
Thanks, I'll have to look into that someday. TinkerGnome I am happy that it worked, I liked the feel of the drawing personally. Chuck Yeah, I need to start using the wacom more, it would save me so much time. Kyoto Is it just me, or does everybody lose those pens while moving? Heh. And I will really try on the proportions. I'm making these women a personal challenge to do better. Aku I flat out agree with you, they have been bothering me too. I'm not sure what I am doing wrong there, but I am definately working on it. Thanks for pointing it out. |
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Feb 22 2006, 10:51 PM
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Running, running, running Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,220 Joined: 18-October 04 From: North Carolina Member No.: 6,769 |
Heh, as i understand it, you're far from the collegite life, but i could so hear some of my friends saying that to Prof's.... just to shut 'em the frag up... It's not a big deal tho, in reality, few females have "perfect" breasts to begin with, most of them are smaller and or lopsided, and it is only thanks to the marvels of the Brazire that they look so nice |
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Feb 23 2006, 01:59 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
As you have a wacom board, you should really try out Painter. You propably got a copy of Painter Classic with the board, but the new versions are even better.
Here's a couple of pictures I've colored using the watercolour tools in Painter: http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/mintc...car/western.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/mintcar/asir.gif Old stuff, because I don't put that kind of effort into it anymore :) Anyway, it's great fun to play with. Much better than Photoshop if you want a genuine physical media feel to things. |
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Feb 23 2006, 05:21 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Very Very nice. Particularly "Western" Not sure how much effort goes in to do this digitally since I pretty much have done art the analog way. I should consider upgrading (currently only have a 2 generation old notebook running Win 98). In the past, I used to use ink & Mars Prismacolour pencils & for my character sketches |
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Feb 23 2006, 05:24 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
Aku
Yeah, I'm 27 years old, so beyond the college years. I meant what I said though, thanks for pointing it out. [b] Mintcar{/b] Yeah, it came with Painter, and I tryed it out. I'm pretty used to photoshop and all it's hot keys by now, so it would have to do something that photoshop can't.... Cool pictures though, I remember seeing the Decker on the Shadowrun art site. I prefer the other one though, the colors seem to work more for me. I'll have to mess some more with is whe I am feeling adventurous. |
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Feb 23 2006, 10:23 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
Squinky: Painter can certainly do a thousand things that Photoshop can't... You just don't get the organic shifts and unexpected mixings of colours in Photoshop, were it's all very artificial. If you like splashing around a bit, Photoshop really does not even compare. It does a lot of things a whole lot better too, of course. I've tended to use both in the past; doing all the coloring in Painter and then using Photoshop to patch together backgrounds and characters.
Kyoto Kid: I've never gotten past the learning stage when it comes to digital painting. So as I was constantly inventing ways of doing things such as leaving the inked lines intact—even just learning what brushes to use—it did take enormous amounts of time. The quick gray-scale sketches I've done here though, I could never have made as quick without the computer. As I've just used the quickest method I've discovered without trying out anything new in the process. So I guess it's all about knowing what you're doing. Why don't you try your hand at a character portrait Kyoto? No scanner? |
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Feb 23 2006, 10:51 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Mintcar... That is precisely it. I actually have quite a folio I have amassed over the years. Also do not have access from home to internet (kind of living in the 'Enemy of the State" [the movie] mode - I enjoy what little privacy I have when I'm off work). |
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Feb 23 2006, 11:31 PM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
Hm. I can relate to that. Gonna try not to derail the thread, but I just read some things about the future of entertainment technology... copy protection... Sony... forced internet connection... "self-destruct-patches"... peace is war... love is hate...
I think I'm going to stop upgrading my tech toys for a while until this mess slows down. |
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Feb 24 2006, 10:07 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
I think the only way that will happen is if we have a Crash in RL. Unfortunately, It looks only like it the curve is going to get even more logarithmic as time goes on. This is why I'm content with slightly older tech I once remember these round black flat things called "records", phones that rang, bicycles with three speeds, cars you could work on in your garage... Sorry, it's those flashbacks again to simpler days.... So back getting the train on the track... If I can find means to scan & upload a few of the illustrations I've done I would like to post them. Just don't know how to go about it & where to post them since I do not have a domain. |
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Feb 24 2006, 10:49 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ontari-airee-o Member No.: 1,115 |
just use http://www.imageshack.us/ like squinky. you scan the image, then upload it through your browser
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Feb 25 2006, 07:50 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
Thanks for the link. Now I just need to find somewhere to get a few scans done this weekend. |
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Feb 25 2006, 08:17 AM
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Karma Police Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,358 Joined: 22-July 04 From: Gothenburg, SE Member No.: 6,505 |
You can propably get scans done at any copy shop or photo store. Off course it's cheaper if you know someone with a scanner.
I use http://www.photobucket.com for hosting my images. |
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