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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 2-January 06 Member No.: 8,120 ![]() |
Hi there, I'm the new guy. :)
I got SR4 for Xmas and spent the last days reading. Now I have some questions... maybe you veterans can help me? First question: A shotgun's range is almost halved when loading Flechette Ammo. Sounds reasonable enough, but what happens to other firearms using Flechette Ammo? Is their range reduced as well? Edit: The title should read 'n00b' not 'b00b', sorry... :oops: |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 ![]() |
heh, was wondering about the title :P
anyways, as far as i can tell, flechette has no drawbacks for any other guns. so don't ever use regular ammo unless you're fighting someone who's not worth the money for something better. |
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Validating Posts: 1,618 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Montevideo, Uruguay. Member No.: 3,992 ![]() |
Dammit, I was lured by the title. :silly:
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 114 Joined: 27-April 05 From: Summoning a spirit of the land Member No.: 7,362 ![]() |
this |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 20-December 05 Member No.: 8,088 ![]() |
Where the hell's the boob question?
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 114 Joined: 27-April 05 From: Summoning a spirit of the land Member No.: 7,362 ![]() |
Cyber boobs!
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 ![]() |
actually, i think there was a post about cyber boobs a while back.
specifically, i think it was talking about how IRL someone got a mp3 player or something in an implant :P |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 22-October 05 Member No.: 7,876 ![]() |
With organ cloning and mass production advances wouldn't having a boob job to have So-and-so's boobs take on a whole new level.
As for the guns, I don't think flichete reduces the range in non-shotguns. But why are we talking about guns in a boob thread. ... Unless we are realy talking about Fem-bots. The only soft and cuddly cyberzombies. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 31-October 03 Member No.: 5,780 ![]() |
would that be considered a cybergun? heheh...
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Midnight Toker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 ![]() |
You don't need to be a cyberzombie to fit a shotgun in a breast you just need a creative surgeon. Certainly, it would be a surprise to gropers.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 31-October 03 Member No.: 5,780 ![]() |
"Hey baby, how are you *BANG!* Aouuu God my hand! You SHOT my *bleep*in hand off! What the *bleep*! *several more bleeps spread out randomly* My hand *and some more bleeps*
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Awakened Asset ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 ![]() |
Austin Powers-style boob guns loaded with flechette? Range won´t matter, the opponents are lured closer first... like all of us into this thread...
*thinksaboutitandducksbehindcover* |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 944 Joined: 19-February 03 Member No.: 4,128 ![]() |
*thinks about supercolliginated skingrafts and an internal neosilicone pump inside the chest leading to the smart polymer implants*
Any size, any shape, any texture, any time... Man I need a GF... |
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 2-January 06 Member No.: 8,120 ![]() |
Lol, such a small typo...
Sorry again guys. Ok, here is another question: Since a gas mask grants immunity to inhalation toxins, why would I buy a more expensive Respirator that just adds dice to the test? Did I miss something? |
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 ![]() |
The gas mask has an air resevoire and has a limited duration. Also it is bulkier and heavier. A human operating at high exertion is running through about 6 grams of Oxygen a minute, and that adds up really fast if it is your intent to keep all of it inside an enviro-sealed suit that you carry around with you. Humans don't absorb nearly 100% of the Oxygen they breathe in, so anything capable of keeping you going for even an hour of heavy activity is going to be quite heavy. And at that point, "heavy activity" might include "carrying the heavy Oxygen resevoire."
-Frank |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 114 Joined: 27-April 05 From: Summoning a spirit of the land Member No.: 7,362 ![]() |
nevermind
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 ![]() |
also, in some places it's actually common to wear a respirator in public.
it's probably a lot less common to wear a gas mask everywhere you go. plus gas masks are unpleasant to wear, or such is my understanding (having never actually worn one to be honest). |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 775 Joined: 31-March 05 From: florida Member No.: 7,273 ![]() |
gas masks are not all that bad to wear, (from experience), its a lot better than say puking your guts up, literally. the only suggestion i would give would be to not try and fire anything that you have to pull close to aim. their a real pain then. spray and pray weapons, pistols and shotguns are fine, but something like an XM-30 or a Barret would be a pain.
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 39 Joined: 2-January 06 Member No.: 8,120 ![]() |
Thanks for all the help.
I especially like the thought that Gas Masks interfere with sight while Respirators do not... some food for thought there... Here is another: What happens if someone gets affected by the same toxin more than once in short succession? For example someone is hit twice by a Squirt Gun loaded with Narcoject that was fired in SA mode... What happens when the turn ends? Some kind of overdose effect? Or is affected just affected and that's it? How long until he can be affected again? Just asking for your input here... |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
bleagh, gas masks suck, especially if they're old. there are internal leaks, so your lenses are constantly fogging up; your face sweats and creates pools wherever the mask clamps against your skin; you can't breathe as easily; old straps lose their elasticity, so you have to draw the damn mask painfully tight just to make sure there aren't external leaks; trying to get a drink requires a special attachment, the mouthpiece of which is constantly poking into your lip... i could go on, but suffice to say that i strongly disagree with warrior_allanon's assessment.
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 ![]() |
I have to agree with mfb on the comfortability of gas masks, but I also agree with warrior_allanon in that it's better than puking your guts out. ;)
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 297 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 248 ![]() |
Well, on page 245 (Concentration), it is suggested to "increase the Power of the toxin as [the gamemaster] feels appropriate, as well as increasing the damage it causes, or its other effects by an appropriate amount". Now what is an "appropriate amount"? Damage-wise i would simply increase the Power of the toxin by 1 per extra dose taken after the first in the same Combat Round. |
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
when going on our final exercize in basic, i opted to just suck up (literally) the tear gas rather than bother with the damn mask.
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,089 Joined: 4-October 05 Member No.: 7,813 ![]() |
for the record, when i said it was uncomfortable, i wasn't suggesting a reason someone wouldn't use one if they knew they were going to be facing some kind of unpleasant inhalation gas.
i was more pointing out why someone might prefer a respirator instead. simply put, you can be always wearing a respirator, and people might think it's a little odd, but probably won't think you're a terrorist about to gas bomb everything around you. people wear them to protect from pollution, for example. |
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Midnight Toker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 ![]() |
Well, it depends on how old your respirator is, as well. A brand spanking new one might not attract too much attention, a smelly duck from WWI, on the other hand, would ruin social rolls.
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