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Mauler
post Jan 2 2006, 04:03 PM
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Hi there, I'm the new guy. :)

I got SR4 for Xmas and spent the last days reading. Now I have some questions... maybe you veterans can help me?

First question: A shotgun's range is almost halved when loading Flechette Ammo. Sounds reasonable enough, but what happens to other firearms using Flechette Ammo? Is their range reduced as well?

Edit: The title should read 'n00b' not 'b00b', sorry... :oops:
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Jaid
post Jan 2 2006, 04:28 PM
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heh, was wondering about the title :P

anyways, as far as i can tell, flechette has no drawbacks for any other guns. so don't ever use regular ammo unless you're fighting someone who's not worth the money for something better.
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post Jan 2 2006, 08:54 PM
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Dammit, I was lured by the title. :silly:
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post Jan 2 2006, 09:44 PM
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Dammit, I was lured by the title. :silly:

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post Jan 2 2006, 10:16 PM
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Where the hell's the boob question?
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post Jan 2 2006, 11:02 PM
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Cyber boobs!
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post Jan 2 2006, 11:19 PM
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actually, i think there was a post about cyber boobs a while back.

specifically, i think it was talking about how IRL someone got a mp3 player or something in an implant :P
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post Jan 3 2006, 01:14 AM
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With organ cloning and mass production advances wouldn't having a boob job to have So-and-so's boobs take on a whole new level.

As for the guns, I don't think flichete reduces the range in non-shotguns. But why are we talking about guns in a boob thread. ... Unless we are realy talking about Fem-bots. The only soft and cuddly cyberzombies.
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post Jan 3 2006, 01:17 AM
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would that be considered a cybergun? heheh...
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post Jan 3 2006, 01:42 AM
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You don't need to be a cyberzombie to fit a shotgun in a breast you just need a creative surgeon. Certainly, it would be a surprise to gropers.

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post Jan 3 2006, 01:53 AM
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"Hey baby, how are you *BANG!* Aouuu God my hand! You SHOT my *bleep*in hand off! What the *bleep*! *several more bleeps spread out randomly* My hand *and some more bleeps*
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post Jan 3 2006, 09:37 AM
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Austin Powers-style boob guns loaded with flechette? Range won´t matter, the opponents are lured closer first... like all of us into this thread...

*thinksaboutitandducksbehindcover*
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post Jan 3 2006, 02:40 PM
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*thinks about supercolliginated skingrafts and an internal neosilicone pump inside the chest leading to the smart polymer implants*

Any size, any shape, any texture, any time...

Man I need a GF...
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post Jan 3 2006, 05:29 PM
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Lol, such a small typo...
Sorry again guys.
Ok, here is another question: Since a gas mask grants immunity to inhalation toxins, why would I buy a more expensive Respirator that just adds dice to the test? Did I miss something?
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post Jan 3 2006, 06:18 PM
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The gas mask has an air resevoire and has a limited duration. Also it is bulkier and heavier. A human operating at high exertion is running through about 6 grams of Oxygen a minute, and that adds up really fast if it is your intent to keep all of it inside an enviro-sealed suit that you carry around with you. Humans don't absorb nearly 100% of the Oxygen they breathe in, so anything capable of keeping you going for even an hour of heavy activity is going to be quite heavy. And at that point, "heavy activity" might include "carrying the heavy Oxygen resevoire."

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post Jan 3 2006, 06:25 PM
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nevermind
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post Jan 3 2006, 11:20 PM
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also, in some places it's actually common to wear a respirator in public.

it's probably a lot less common to wear a gas mask everywhere you go.

plus gas masks are unpleasant to wear, or such is my understanding (having never actually worn one to be honest).
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post Jan 4 2006, 01:06 AM
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gas masks are not all that bad to wear, (from experience), its a lot better than say puking your guts up, literally. the only suggestion i would give would be to not try and fire anything that you have to pull close to aim. their a real pain then. spray and pray weapons, pistols and shotguns are fine, but something like an XM-30 or a Barret would be a pain.
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post Jan 4 2006, 01:20 AM
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Thanks for all the help.
I especially like the thought that Gas Masks interfere with sight while Respirators do not... some food for thought there...
Here is another:
What happens if someone gets affected by the same toxin more than once in short succession? For example someone is hit twice by a Squirt Gun loaded with Narcoject that was fired in SA mode... What happens when the turn ends? Some kind of overdose effect? Or is affected just affected and that's it? How long until he can be affected again? Just asking for your input here...
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post Jan 4 2006, 01:23 AM
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bleagh, gas masks suck, especially if they're old. there are internal leaks, so your lenses are constantly fogging up; your face sweats and creates pools wherever the mask clamps against your skin; you can't breathe as easily; old straps lose their elasticity, so you have to draw the damn mask painfully tight just to make sure there aren't external leaks; trying to get a drink requires a special attachment, the mouthpiece of which is constantly poking into your lip... i could go on, but suffice to say that i strongly disagree with warrior_allanon's assessment.
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post Jan 4 2006, 01:31 AM
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I have to agree with mfb on the comfortability of gas masks, but I also agree with warrior_allanon in that it's better than puking your guts out. ;)
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post Jan 4 2006, 02:21 AM
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QUOTE (Mauler)
What happens if someone gets affected by the same toxin more than once in short succession? For example someone is hit twice by a Squirt Gun loaded with Narcoject that was fired in SA mode... What happens when the turn ends? Some kind of overdose effect? Or is affected just affected and that's it? How long until he can be affected again? Just asking for your input here...

Well, on page 245 (Concentration), it is suggested to "increase the Power of the toxin as [the gamemaster] feels appropriate, as well as increasing the damage it causes, or its other effects by an appropriate amount".
Now what is an "appropriate amount"?

Damage-wise i would simply increase the Power of the toxin by 1 per extra dose taken after the first in the same Combat Round.
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post Jan 4 2006, 04:08 AM
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when going on our final exercize in basic, i opted to just suck up (literally) the tear gas rather than bother with the damn mask.
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post Jan 4 2006, 04:15 AM
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for the record, when i said it was uncomfortable, i wasn't suggesting a reason someone wouldn't use one if they knew they were going to be facing some kind of unpleasant inhalation gas.

i was more pointing out why someone might prefer a respirator instead. simply put, you can be always wearing a respirator, and people might think it's a little odd, but probably won't think you're a terrorist about to gas bomb everything around you. people wear them to protect from pollution, for example.
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post Jan 4 2006, 05:12 AM
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Well, it depends on how old your respirator is, as well. A brand spanking new one might not attract too much attention, a smelly duck from WWI, on the other hand, would ruin social rolls.
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