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panda!  Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242  |
so 20.000 100:y: transfers, preferably bounced between about 100 diffrent accounts in diffrent tax havens, and then slowly filtering down into a lower number of accounts until its spread over about 5-10...
maybe have them merge and then split back up at times to :P hmm, have a agent who have only one job, moving money back and forth based on a algorithm. then its all a matter of having some way to figure out what account the money is on when you need them ;) maybe hidden on a quote of the day node? if this node is up, then that account is the one to use for the next hour and half and so on... good luck tracking the money down :P |
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Feb 4 2006, 12:32 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
What you just said was what I was thinking about; salami slicing it in a mall or something, adding and subtracting fractions of a nuyen at a time to the myriad transactions taking place maybe about 500 times for each 25 cents worth of money and then moving it to a second comlink that I own after each person's about to leave the mall. This could be done so easily if they have crappy security on their comlinks.
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Feb 4 2006, 03:52 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
yes, except they fixed all the fractions-of-a-penny loopholes back in the 90s. besides, you're still not getting what money laundering actually is. you can't just trade dollars with people. the whole point of money laundering is to explain where you got the money from. it's something you do so you don't have a million bucks in your checking account that came from nowhere. that sort of thing gets you noticed. if you have a million dollars in your checking account that came from betting at the racetrack, that's not so supicious.
the only time you'd actually want to just trade a stack of money for a different stack of money--a smaller stack of money, usually, for reasons i'll explain in a second--is if your money were somehow marked. you'd basically be fencing something valuable but traceable (the marked money), and getting a percentage of the full value back (the small stack of money), with the remainder being the fence's fee for taking the risks involved in selling (spending) this valuable, traceable item. and in an age of electronic cash, i'm not sure you'd really need to go to all that trouble. |
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Feb 4 2006, 04:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 295 Joined: 10-July 05 Member No.: 7,492 |
Gambling is quite a good way of money laundering, depending on how strict the casino is on finding out where the money came from.
Just bet on something with a decent payoff -- like average payback is 1:0.85. You get 85% of your money back, but it's clean, because you won it. |
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Feb 4 2006, 04:14 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
or, if you've got connections or know how to talk to the right people, you could pay the casino (or a casino worker) 15-20% off the top to rig the game for you. and then, afterwards, they could fix the books to show that you bet a smaller amount and won a larger amount.
why the hell am i studying e-business and web design? i should be a mafia accountant. |
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Feb 4 2006, 05:40 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 31-October 03 Member No.: 5,780 |
Mafia Accountants have bad job security - what are you gonna do when books don't 'tally' as they 'should'?
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Feb 4 2006, 05:53 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
buy a plane ticket to somewhere sunny with all the money i've stolen from the mob.
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Feb 4 2006, 12:58 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
Fractions of a ¥ - that would be pennies first, not necessarily fractions of pennies. ;)
Usually, it didn't come from 'nowhere' - those are fees/donations to the (fictional) service agency/nonprofit organization using that account... |
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Feb 4 2006, 04:37 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
right. that's money laundering.
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Feb 5 2006, 06:36 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
What if you do really good at blackjack or something? Does the mafia shoot you?
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Feb 5 2006, 07:16 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
Judging from movies/series, they tend to kill you. Probably a big hammer instead of shots, at least until they have their money back.
My current char actually was an accountant of an organized crime syndicate, and involved in money laundering. I am just not sure how my char did it. It's kind of unsatisfying to just roll a money laundering skill ... |
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Feb 6 2006, 02:38 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
if you do really good at blackjack in a legal casino, you go home rich. the gummint taxes the bejesus out of you, the casino (mob-run or not) counts the 500,000% profit they made on all the suckers who lost at blackjack, and everybody is happy and retains full use of their knees.
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Feb 6 2006, 04:37 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Unless you believe what's written in SoNA about Las Vegas, which is just nonsense (Yeah, Jay, I said it. Sorry, dude. I hope that's one of the parts that got "edited" post-submission).
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Mar 6 2006, 01:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 464 Joined: 3-March 06 From: CalFree Member No.: 8,329 |
Hey, if the casino isn't checking into where your money came from, why wouldn't you just get $500,000 worth of chips and then cash out (maybe not all at once, or not on the same day, just to be on the safe side)? The riskiest part is the initial deposit of the dirtiest money. Right now, banks are required to report cash deposits above a certain size (let's say $10k); so what a money launderer will start off with is making smaller deposits, either through accomplices or over multiple days/banks (or a combination of all three). This is called smurfing, no drek. Another common laundering tactic is using "offshore" accounts in places like the Caymans, Hong Kong, or Dubai, where there are actually strict laws against tracking financial transfers, and doing maybe hundreds of transfers in a short period of time, or using places like Pakistan and China where there are legal-ish alternative banking systems that are largely undocumented. One can also invest in legitimate businesses, typically high volume or cash-intensive businesses. You know that one restaurant downtown that's been open for, like, twenty years, but you've never seen more than one table occupied at a time? (By the way, I'm taking this stuff from: http://www.howstuffworks.com/money-laundering.htm and I am not an international criminal. b1ff |
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Mar 6 2006, 02:38 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
there is a howstuffworks page on money laundering!? :shock:
i realy need to check that site out :grinbig: |
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Mar 6 2006, 06:36 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
The Caymans. Ha! There are small south pacific islands which appear and disappear out of nowhere that exist almost exlcusively as places to launder money.
The Internet is okay for the basics (like, say, for writing a SB), but there are actual paper and ink books (quite a few, actually) which are infinitely more useful. |
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Mar 6 2006, 09:09 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
Friend of mine's mother's band (yeah, yeah) was used as a money-laundering front for a while. The manager sold weed. He'd get paid for their gigs with a big check from the people hiring the band, and pay the band with the cash from his side business. The weed money never makes it into anything with his name on it, and the people he's using to launder the money never complain about not getting paid, and the money going into his accounts is from legit buisiness deals.
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