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post Feb 24 2006, 03:35 AM
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Would you gain dice bonuses from cyberears or improved senses other than sight, since they're helping you locate the target?
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post Feb 24 2006, 12:34 PM
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IMHO only for locating the target, not for firing at it.
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post Feb 24 2006, 03:11 PM
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Although without it I guess you could question why the character doesn't just get cybereyes or even just a camera bolted to the front of their hat and wire that into their brains. :)

Hey, if a player wants to buy off a flaw, fine. Either make them wait until they've bought it off to get the cybereyes, or just put them into karma-debt. (I've done that before) Or, if you don't want them getting away with that for a few sessions, then when their karma debt is paid off then their physical therapy is over and their brain has relearned how to interpret visual data. In the meantime, the shiny new cyber eyes don't work.
It seems logical to me that there would be a difference between scooping out somebody's working eyes and trying to get cybereyes to work in someone who's been blind for years. The brain does reallocate unused neurons after a time.
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post Feb 24 2006, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)
QUOTE (Brahm @ Feb 23 2006, 05:53 PM)
Although without it I guess you could question why the character doesn't just get cybereyes or even just a camera bolted to the front of their hat and wire that into their brains. :)

Hey, if a player wants to buy off a flaw, fine. Either make them wait until they've bought it off to get the cybereyes, or just put them into karma-debt. (I've done that before) Or, if you don't want them getting away with that for a few sessions, then when their karma debt is paid off then their physical therapy is over and their brain has relearned how to interpret visual data. In the meantime, the shiny new cyber eyes don't work.
It seems logical to me that there would be a difference between scooping out somebody's working eyes and trying to get cybereyes to work in someone who's been blind for years. The brain does reallocate unused neurons after a time.

If it was a Flaw or a Negative Quality, sure. But in this case it isn't. It is more backstory.

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I can just see all the hermeitic mage adept blind gunfighter builds sprouting out of this.


No on a couple of fronts. It would have to be a different tradition than Hermetic, because they use Logic. Unless you just mean the huge number of Knowledge skill points during chargen?

If you are thinking of the bonus of Intuition while avoiding the -6 die penalty by going astral then no again. That would switch them back to Agility.
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post Feb 24 2006, 07:19 PM
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Heh, got mixed up. To clarify: I can see special traditions that use Intuition for drain playing blind characters, but then again, that would really be pointless now wouldn't it?
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post Feb 24 2006, 07:22 PM
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this string has gone on way to long LOL being blind isnt useful at all. Shadowrunners shouldnt be blind imo its self defeating....almost regret posting this LOL
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post Feb 24 2006, 07:27 PM
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Okay, then on a different note, suppose I shot at a physically invisible character, and I had cybereyes with vision mags and a laser sight or smartlink. Would I get my bonuses?
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post Feb 24 2006, 07:27 PM
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Two words: Blind Fury.
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post Feb 24 2006, 07:45 PM
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You don't even need a brain to use astral perception.

say what?
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post Feb 24 2006, 07:45 PM
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Okay, then on a different note, suppose I shot at a physically invisible character, and I had cybereyes with vision mags and a laser sight or smartlink. Would I get my bonuses?

Hmm...well, at the very least you would still lower or negate any vision penalties as normal (i.e. poor lighting, smoke, glare, range etc.) due to the vision mods.

Lasersights and smartlinks don't stack (especially since a lasersight is integral to the smartlink anyway) but should you get the bonus?

I don't really see why not...after all, I don't see anything that would even forbid taking a called shot on an invisible target in the RAW.


Of course the final decision is going to be the GM's - so you should really run it past him/her before trying it.
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post Feb 24 2006, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (Squinky @ Feb 24 2006, 02:27 PM)
Two words: Blind Fury.

Zatoichi did it first. Zatoichi did it better.


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say what?


Astral Perception is a sense that is completely contined within the Astral Body. You don't need a brain to process the sensory data and can Astraly Percieve just fine if you leave your brain along with the rest of your meatbod.
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post Feb 24 2006, 09:35 PM
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You know the other way players end up playing blind characters? One of their teammates decides to "help out" in a gunfight in a steam tunnel by putting his shotgun over the (now blind) character's shoulder and getting his two cents (or two nuyen, given ammo costs) into the conversation.

That's also a good way to end up playing a deaf character, at least on that side.

These are, of course, repairable. But they'll definitely get your attention.
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post Feb 25 2006, 11:02 AM
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say what?


Astral Perception is a sense that is completely contined within the Astral Body. You don't need a brain to process the sensory data and can Astraly Percieve just fine if you leave your brain along with the rest of your meatbod.

oops, that that brain=mind connection, my bad...
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