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Apr 3 2006, 05:42 PM
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Could be worse. Instead of Shadowrun, you could bump into a pack of rabid anti-Jihadist fanboys on a BT forum. |
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Apr 3 2006, 05:44 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
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Brahm, don't troll. This is the second time I've had to ask you to do this lately. Please, stop. Everyone else, don't feed trolls. |
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Apr 3 2006, 06:12 PM
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I do tend to take that sort of thing slightly too personally, when I'm partly responsible for writing some of this stuff, partly because its just unfounded, but especially because I know several of the writers go out of their way to conform to FASA canon (even when it doesn't make sense) and update it so it remains consistent and pertinent in the updated setting. As for distancing the game from its roots... As a writer I don't know how much more of a homage I could pay to the creators of this great game than to use one of their Threats to (almost) bring about the end of the world - when Winternight had been languishing on a shelf for more most of the FASA years. On a smaller scale how about dredging up such dead-and-buried SR1 references as Johnny Spinrad, Mina Graff-Beloit, Madeleine Muller, the LPO, heck I even took a shot at making sense of all the contradictory SR material on the Catholic Church. Almost every other freelancer working for FanPro these days does the same and the last few books of SR3 have been littered with old FASA references (and kept consistent to boot).
For the record this is what we would have gone with had we had the chance. |
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Apr 3 2006, 06:34 PM
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There was absolutely no trolling intenting. I guess I'm going to have to stop posting to stop trolling. :please: |
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Apr 3 2006, 07:25 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ontari-airee-o Member No.: 1,115 |
Admittedly, you and Adam, and Steve Kenson for that matter have taken more than your share of lumps on the chin, but that is one of the hazards of your "fame". As someone that has written several years for a decent sized mud, I found it quite stressful that I could not get 100% (or even more than 75% really) buy in for the game mechanic changes I made. I took a great deal of flack and some players left but in general I tried to tailor things to the vast majority. I wind up biting my tongue here more than not, but still find my comments are very synical. I am not happy with where shadowrun is at the moment, but I am 1 voice and I can tailor my game to how I need really. (A vast number of the mechanics I do want to implement are not popular either with members here so obviously you should not change it to how I want to see the game.) We can't blame you for being defensive, especially when you followed a process, sometimes the frustration we feel gets vented in the wrong direction. |
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Apr 3 2006, 10:51 PM
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I can take the lumps. In some cases I've earned them. And I enjoy constructive criticism and feedback. I have no problem with people not liking my writing, I have no problem with people not liking the rules I had a hand in (SOTA64 comes to mind), I have no problem with people coming forward to say that they feel SR is/has been going in the wrong direction and I certainly have no problem with people pointing to flaws in my published material (heck, System Failure ended up with more than I care for). I do, however, mind that people bring up something so minor as this (and get it wrong) to validate an opinion. Myabe if the example chosen wasn't evidence of the exact opposite of what was being suggested then I might have been more receptive.
Well, this thread has been setting oriented rather than mechanics oriented. As Adam said the game is constantly evolving and some people will like it others will not (just like in the past). Given what I've seen of upcoming books I'd say that anyone who liked what FanPro was starting to do with the setting from in SoTA63, SoE, SoTA64, Loose Alliances, SoA, and System Failure then you should like what's coming. |
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okay to set the record straight on this
Synner sorry for any offence Loved the SOTA books likes SoE Havent got my mitts on SoA yet am reading Loose alliances am of two minds about System failure (loved the winternight.dissonance/deus thread. Like the WMI, disliked the california stuff and the cheesiness of how dankwalther was eliminated. Feel te assassination of Haefner was unnecessary, as he couldn't serve another term anyway. And want to see Daviar reappear. Although don't care one way or the other if Mercury survives) ALthough this does bring up the thought Given that his voice and his son are missing, presumed dead. How angry is the Cyberzombie formerly known as dunkelzahn? |
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Apr 4 2006, 01:10 AM
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Minor nitpick: Actually, yeah, he could have (UCAS doesn't have term limits on the president; that was either implied or said outright in "Shadows of North America"). |
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curious
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Apr 4 2006, 01:45 AM
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Dunklezahn: President for Life. :P
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Apr 4 2006, 01:52 AM
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tru dat
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Apr 4 2006, 04:07 AM
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Or undeath.
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Apr 4 2006, 07:08 AM
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A little off-topic, but referencing an earlier comment made in this thread:
What did that file "JackBNimble" end up being? Someone said they solved that mystery (it was a bequest in Dunkie's will), but I've never heard of what it was. |
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Apr 4 2006, 07:28 AM
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It hasn't really been solved.
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[ Spoiler ] Not that I have any proof to back my line of thinking :) |
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