 Vat-grown organs, More wacky real-life advancements |
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 Apr 4 2006, 05:42 PM
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Shooting Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773  |
DocWagon, here we come.
These are technically cultured (cloned) replacement organs. We've previously been able to culture tissue segments successfully, but this is the first full organ mankind has whipped up in a test tube. |
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Apr 4 2006, 05:51 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
I'm sure we'll all here about this in a few years when they start growing gigantic "Wangs". At least in our e-mail....
But, that is very awesome. |
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Apr 4 2006, 05:57 PM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
That is 73|-| 4VV350|\/|3. Why didn't it work before? Because bladders are simple organs?
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Apr 4 2006, 07:09 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
its basicly the size, and that a bladder is more then just a bag to hold your liquid waste. it have muscles that need to be in specific places and similar so that it can function properly...
still, compared to say a heart, a bladder is a very simple organ :P |
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Apr 4 2006, 08:17 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
<slap> |
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Apr 5 2006, 11:19 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 18-March 02 From: Plymouth UK. Member No.: 2,408 |
And another from me. The is not spelt teh. |
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Apr 5 2006, 01:32 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,416 Joined: 4-March 06 From: Albuquerque Member No.: 8,334 |
So in reality, they actually figured this out 7 years ago, but waited until now to mention anything because they wanted proof it worked? Cool. Makes me wonder what else they've done since then.... |
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Apr 5 2006, 03:45 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
While I doubt there's some clever geneticist with a secretly homegrown statuesque redhead tucked away, you'd think that replacement livers would be more commonplace. I mean, livers are supposed to be easy.
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Apr 5 2006, 05:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 588 Joined: 27-February 06 Member No.: 8,316 |
I heard a report on this from NPR the other night and according to them they figured out that they might be able to do it 7 years ago but only now had any success. Interesting since the bladder is the simplest of the inteernal organs.
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Apr 5 2006, 08:05 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I thought the dental filling was the simplest of organs...
So how long until we can do the Raelian brain transplant and never die? Or until we no longer need to have sex to reproduce? And how difficult would bioware be with this? |
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Apr 5 2006, 08:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 909 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Louisville, KY (Well, Memphis, IN technically but you won't know where that is.) Member No.: 7,626 |
Teeth aren't "organs" really; they are extrusions whose function is solely on form.
A bladder is an active structure that responds to commands and serves a purpose. One problem with bladders are if they don't discharge sufficiently they leaving enough fluid behind to foster a septic environment so this is a significant achievement. I figure we're another 10 years away from the first of the complex organ growths testing out successfully. It will probably be a pancreas as it isn't as particular about the structure as some other organs are and it would be a boon to a huge number of people with diabetes. AFAIK, kidneys require too much plumbing to be an early "clonal" product but they will probably be right after pancreaseseses. (I just couldn't stop....) I won't be surprised if the first "heart" looks nothing like the real thing and is really two separate pump bladders operating semi-independantly at lower than normal blood pressures. The heart is a pretty complex thing, so complex that even after millions of years of evolution it still doesn't always get put together right. We will probably need a few decades at least to get the process down. "Bioware," in the sense of replacement organs that function significantly better than completely healthy organs, are at least 50 years away as I expect there to be significant consquences that affect the body as a whole. For what it's worth, I am neither a doctor nor a biomedical researcher. |
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Apr 5 2006, 08:48 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
But you did stay at a Holiday Inn Express... ;) I await the day when they can figure out how to make new eyes and to know how to connect the nerve endings to them so that people can replace damaged/lost eyes. Though cyber eyes are just as good as opposed to being blind.
Wouldn't that be artificial insemination? That's the equivalent of not needing to have sex. Need more input of what you mean. I do wonder how far along they are in developing an artificial womb. That's gonna be interesting for those who wish to not have to deal with the whole ordeal of labor and the time/effort of the entire pregnancy thing. I can see the rich/famous/workaholic execs doing this kind of thing once it's viable. |
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Apr 6 2006, 02:19 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I should say, will we no longer need to go through the stress (and stretching) generally required to properly produce offspring? Can we just send our DNA samples off to the baby factory and expect a FedEx delivery in approximately ten months, assuming all our checks clear? Would it come with a return policy?
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Apr 6 2006, 02:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 360 Joined: 18-March 02 From: Plymouth UK. Member No.: 2,408 |
Can I place an order for 1 space heart and 1 spare brain.
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Apr 6 2006, 06:00 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Yeah, I'm waiting for this day too... |
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Apr 6 2006, 06:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 25-February 06 Member No.: 8,307 |
Oooh, a space heart... can I get one too? :D Personally, put me on the list for a liver and a stomach. |
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Apr 6 2006, 07:20 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
Put me on the list for the redhead....
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Apr 6 2006, 08:18 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,095 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Ontari-airee-o Member No.: 1,115 |
You can take mine, only slightly used.
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Apr 6 2006, 08:26 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 25-February 06 Member No.: 8,307 |
Your liver or your redhead? :D |
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Apr 6 2006, 08:26 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
Heh. Well done.
(The one-liner, not the liver or the redhead. Although I suppose a nice Chianti would help either of them go down.) |
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Apr 6 2006, 08:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 588 Joined: 27-February 06 Member No.: 8,316 |
as far as the next organ to be produced, I kind of doubt it will be the pancreas as the pancreas is responsible for producing large volumes of enxymes and even some hormones (like insulin).
Regrowing nerves in eyes is already at the cutting edge. Nerves regrow amazingly well, but the idea of transplanting them isn;t advanced yet. |
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Apr 6 2006, 08:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 25-February 06 Member No.: 8,307 |
I don't like liver, and I prefer my redhead's al dente. :D |
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Apr 6 2006, 08:56 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
With teeth?
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Apr 6 2006, 09:25 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,651 Joined: 23-September 05 From: Marietta, GA Member No.: 7,773 |
Well, admittedly I prefer them with teeth too. Although if they don't know how to manage them during the aforementioned "going down," we'll have a problem. |
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Apr 6 2006, 09:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 314 Joined: 25-February 06 Member No.: 8,307 |
"to the tooth" meaning firm and pleasing to the bite :love: Teeth on her are optional, although Azralon makes a good case for them being a Flaw rather than an Edge. :eek: |
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