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post Apr 20 2006, 04:53 PM
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Chaos Spirits

All physical stats except Reaction: F-2.
All mental stats: F
Reaction: F+2

Powers: Materialization, engulf, fear, elemental attack (chaos), mind seed.

Optional powers: Greater fear, greater engulf, natural ability (chaotic world), generate background count.

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Greater Engulf:

Instead of eating away at the physical integrity of the engulfee, if rearranges and deforms the target's organs and physical structure. Not even Picasso on LSD could love the engulfee. Nothing short of getting organ replacement surgery can heal this damage. It does damage as normal, but it heals as mentioned above.

Elemental attack (chaos)

This attack resolves as normal, except with double damage done to artificial objects.

Greater fear:

The target rolls Willpower vs. Magic+charisma. For every net hit, the target will have to avoid facing the spirit for one day. If the spirit gets 4 or more net hits, the target will unquestioningly follow one order given by the spirit. This is an area effect.
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post Apr 20 2006, 05:02 PM
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game breaking ideas?

Magic mushrooms in the GM's Omlette on the morning of the game
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post Apr 20 2006, 05:17 PM
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Emo--If you really want Spirits to be game breaking, use their Pre-errata stats.

Re: The Chaos spirit, are there limitations on who can summon it? Any special effects on the summoner (Drain, etc) ? Without having a context for the creation, it's difficult to determine what is game breaking. If your players are all playing double-digit intitiates with the Greater Western Dragon template added on for giggles, then this creature may not be that severe.

Other ideas to break the inherent balance of the game:
Have all armor treated as hardened--Effectively if the power plus AP does not exceed the armor rating, then the attack doesn't penetrate.

Allow armor layering--Add all the armor ratings of the various pieces together at their full values.

Don't allow resistance rolls to magic unless counterspelling is available.

Summon Rock Man Mecha suits for all of your security guards.

Using the diminishing returns rule for Edge in conjunction with a refresh rate as slow as molasses in January.
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post Apr 20 2006, 05:29 PM
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Don't let the great engulf's rearrangement of the victim's body kill him. Instead have it be permanent reductions to social skills until it's either dispelled or the spirit responisible is destroyed (not disrupted, but actually hunted down and destroyed).
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post Apr 20 2006, 08:49 PM
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Re: The Chaos spirit, are there limitations on who can summon it?

He must be corrupted by chaos, and have one of the marks of the chaos gods upon him. Sadly, if he really botches during the summon, the spirit of chaos might deep-strike into a wall or something, which is really unimpressive when it happens...
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post Apr 20 2006, 11:33 PM
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No, only my player's chaos mage will have it. And I was originally going to say the victims looked like
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but decided I didn't want to deal with that grenade.

This is only summonable by those who follow Chaos Undivided. Otherwise, it has to be one of the other four aspects of Chaos.
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post Apr 21 2006, 02:38 PM
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Tau Railcannon vs. Slaanesh daemon FTW!
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post Apr 21 2006, 03:17 PM
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Space marine armor. SPACE MARINES!!!!!
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post Apr 21 2006, 04:17 PM
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Aspect warriors

Warp spiders+ howling banshees + swooping hawks + striking scorpions for teh win

you break in combat and die from crossfire BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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post Apr 21 2006, 04:20 PM
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These are all great ideas. I shall implement them in my next game.
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post Apr 21 2006, 04:22 PM
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I give it two more posts before Adam "The C'Tan" Jury shows up and locks the thread. 8-)
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post Apr 21 2006, 04:23 PM
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one post to go
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post Apr 21 2006, 06:20 PM
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So this would make him Nightbringer.

But seriously, space marine armor would destroy the game.
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post Apr 21 2006, 06:22 PM
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So would "WBB" rolls. But it's something neat to spring on the runners if you are feeling particularly frisky....
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post Apr 21 2006, 06:28 PM
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"WBB?"
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post Apr 21 2006, 06:31 PM
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Allowing the damage of a bow for a troll to based directly off his strength + 2 so you can end up with arrows that do 17P damage.

Oh wait...that's already in there.
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post Apr 21 2006, 06:33 PM
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Those bows would have to be strung with monofilament or something.
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post Apr 21 2006, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE (emo samurai)
"WBB?"

Haha...obvoiusly you've never encountered Necrons in your 40k games.

WBB = We'll be back. Basically half of the Necrons you just killed in your shooting phase stand right back up.
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post Apr 21 2006, 06:50 PM
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secret cyber facility
+ P Fix chips of 'perfect soldier' variety
+ master shedim helping by bringing in regular shedim to inhabit the fresh corpses which come out of the surgery (dead but on life support so thus as if they were projecting mages)

= Universal soldiers with WBB rolls
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post Apr 21 2006, 06:54 PM
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Any ideas for flaying weapons?

Dude, we need Boskop-Albatross for this. I'll PM him.
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post Apr 21 2006, 06:57 PM
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mono cat-o-nine-tails ?
monofilament net guns?
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post Apr 21 2006, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE (emo samurai @ Apr 20 2006, 12:53 PM)

Greater Engulf:

Instead of eating away at the physical integrity of the engulfee, if rearranges and deforms the target's organs and physical structure. Not even Picasso on LSD could love the engulfee. Nothing short of getting organ replacement surgery can heal this damage. It does damage as normal, but it heals as mentioned above.


Been there, done that. See wormskull horrors from earthdawn, and the skin shift power.
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post Apr 21 2006, 08:19 PM
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Everyone on your team gets a BFG and is a highlander. There can be only one? Who says so? Five armed with plasma cannons work really well.
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post Apr 22 2006, 02:00 AM
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A (semi-)fiberless fiber optic network utilizing drones and/or emplacements (depending on whether the user is the GM or a player), with ionizing lasers to clear the air (so to speak) between the retransmitting drones' prisms/mirrors.

There should be a ubiquitous network of this kind in Portland (at least downtown) and Royal Hill all directed by the Peace Force to a central or regional offices full of mages ready to nuke the shit out of anyone who pisses them off.
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post Apr 22 2006, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE (Kremlin KOA)
monofilament net guns?

Actually, the Eldar use these. Well, Warp Spiders and Dark Eldar do.
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