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 May 5 2006, 09:29 PM
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Running Target  Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377  |
You simply use the averages of all his body attributes (limbs+natural). |
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May 5 2006, 10:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 29-October 05 Member No.: 7,908 |
As I seem to recall, you never had to. The party never left anyone standing after the first combat turn. I think Frank either dodged or totally resisted the stun damage from the only attack that was leveled against him. The campaign didn't last long enough. :( *Cheers* on Cinco de Mayo to Frank, Red Fang, and the rest of the crew. And Slasher, that rat bastard of an NPC. |
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May 6 2006, 05:24 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,359 Joined: 25-June 02 From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada (go Canucks!) Member No.: 2,904 |
Okay, in this character's case it doesn't matter. ALL limbs and torso were modified to 9 (except the head. Headshots on him are deadly). It matters not, other than the head, where he is shot. The 9 attribute is used to soak damage.
The attribute is augmented. This is not bonus dice. I need no other logic than "the rules say so" to defend my position. If an individual GM wants to change the rule in his game and is consistant with it then that is fine. Officially speaking, though, I think the rules are on my side. From Squinky. "You simply use the averages of all his body attributes (limbs+natural)." True, but incomplete. You use the averages of all his body attributes (limbs+natural) that are involved in the action (which is why headshots would be lethal). |
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May 6 2006, 05:53 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,076 Joined: 31-August 05 From: Rock Hill, SC Member No.: 7,655 |
No, the rules are not on your side. Cyberlimb replacements do not add to your baseline attribute rating. I'm not changing any rules on this -- I'm consulting the book. If anything, the individual cyberlimb is augmented with enhancements that increase the limb's individual ratings. For the purposes of your character, you would have "Body 1" on your sheet, since there are no direct increases to it. You don't have a suprathyroid gland, which as far as I can tell is the only 'ware that increases Body across the board. You don't even have bone lacing or density, which would add Body for damage resistance tests. You certainly don't have any adept powers, like Increased Physical Attribute: Body. Your base Body 1 attribute is never, at any time, augmented. It is simply replaced with limbs that have ratings of their own. |
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May 6 2006, 10:59 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,498 Joined: 4-August 05 From: ADL Member No.: 7,534 |
For consistency, the damagetrack should be based on the average body, which in this case, is 9. Everything else is not logical.
See here, how I calculate averages and why: http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?showtopic=12878 |
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May 6 2006, 12:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 515 Joined: 19-January 04 Member No.: 5,992 |
I'm beginning to think that maybe there ought to be an actual Fullborg piece of cyberware. Maybe offering an extra bit of essence reduction overall in exchange for a significantly ramped up availability, as you're dealing more with a body-shaped robot at that point instead of independent cyberlimbs.
Just scoop out your gooey innards into the thing. Heck, I figure that if fullborg is the idea, it shouldn't be too long until you get a reasonable knockoff of GITS style borgs. I'm personally willing to look the other way when it comes to established cyberware stuff in exchange for not having to take averages or try to convince people that Foo is worth more than Bar but not quite so much as Baz. They're not efficient whatsoever, but, well. Let's face it. Cyberarms are cool. They're one of the cooler parts of the whole cyberware thing. Sure, bioware might be more elegant, but sometimes? You want a three-pronged clawmonster of an arm with tubes and LEDs and shit. |
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May 6 2006, 12:59 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Chrome is soo important for a cyberpunk setting, it's a shame that most players and GM stay with the idea, that a char with obvious cyberlimbs will face a social stigma. |
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May 6 2006, 04:03 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,359 Joined: 25-June 02 From: Vancouver, B.C., Canada (go Canucks!) Member No.: 2,904 |
Note I said augmented. Unless specifically stated otherwise the augmented attribute is to be used, according to the rules. So, the rules are indeed on my side. Certain specific situations may use the baseline attribute, but only when the rules clearly say so. I'm not trying to offend anyone here or upset anyone. I am simply using the rules to the benefit of this character. I welcome all discussion but please folks, do not take my defence personally. :) This is a pre-emptive strike. :) C'mon people, show me more issues (rules related only please...this ain't no "this character offends me" discussion) and let's see what we can come up with. |
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