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May 10 2006, 12:03 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,067 |
Yes, yes..
But did all this exist, in solid enough terms for shadowrunenrs to start using it, in 2021? I wouldn't mind some of the tech leaps (well, other than teleportation) in 2060-2070. But by putting it near the beginning of the awakening.. they severely limit themselves. I'm also worried about what fallout this means for the RPG. IE: Will the writers have to go back and use this storyline in 4th edition? Or elements of it? |
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May 10 2006, 12:06 AM
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Short answer: no.
Only on the inside? ~J |
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May 10 2006, 12:11 AM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
http://eurekaaerospace.com/impsar.php This one is using microwave (and obviously a very, very early concept development), the next-door neighbor to milliwave. I don't see any milliwave stuff handy, but i -think- it currently has limited applications of very short rang, non-destructive structural inspection. I wish i could find it. I know know that milliwave is used in place of optical and near-optical range laser ranging for situations where things like mist would interfere with the light beam. |
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May 10 2006, 12:12 AM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,784 Joined: 28-July 04 From: Cleveland, OH Member No.: 6,522 |
/shrug
Clearly I'm not the target market for this one. Thank you Microsoft for saving me a several hundred dollars and a great deal of time. |
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May 10 2006, 12:15 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 225 Joined: 1-November 05 Member No.: 7,917 |
My dad has worked on the non-technical side of see-through technology a la Total Recall for a decade, according to him they're really close to telling women the brand of their bras in the airports. By 2060 that tech should be awesome.
But wasn't this thread about video games? |
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May 10 2006, 12:32 AM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
I think everyone's on their forums killing their bandwidth.
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May 10 2006, 12:48 AM
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Midnight Toker ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
You mean like Oblivion?
Th matrix wouldn't be too difficult. I wouldn't expect "ooooooo" graphics so much as the ability to move from node to node and take control of security cameras and turrets. The former can be implimented with teleportation and statmods. The latter by whatever method they decide to use to take control of cameras and turrets. It has been done before. The Astral plane would be several times easier. It is just no-clip mode more some glowing. |
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May 10 2006, 12:50 AM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Yes, I would've LOVED a detailed RPG like Oblivion for Shadowrun.
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May 10 2006, 01:19 AM
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#109
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 475 Joined: 13-March 06 From: dusty Mexican borderlands Member No.: 8,372 |
I've come to what I feel is a life-affirming decision about the Shadowrun video game.
It sucks, but I don't care. It should be expected, given the developer and their business model. It will capitalize on people who don't play the game, but played it or heard about it or whatever years ago. Especially the folks who played it in the 16-bit games, and never stepped into the PnP realm. So, it's not like the game is going to alienate existing PnP players from the PnP. It may bring a few people to the PnP. They'll play it, and 90% of them will walk away. The remaining 10% will join the fold. It cost WizKids nothing. The return might not be all they'd hoped for, but there will be a slight increase. There will be no decrease resulting from the game. We win, Microsoft loses when the game is a crippling flop for a variety of reasons. Where's the problem? |
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May 10 2006, 01:22 AM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
The problem is when Bethesda or BioWare don't pick it up and create a badass RPG out of Shadowrun because of the stink that pervades this game.
Plus, the expectation. Then again, they always said it would be a FPS. |
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May 10 2006, 01:31 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
You know what I find it most hilarious about this whole bitchfest? It's that now I can look at all of you in here complaining about the FPS who called us whiners when it came to SR4, and say, "So, how does it feel to have something you love get mangled beyond recognition by halfwits?"
I bet it feels pretty crappy. Shit, I think this is hilarious. Between the SR fps and GTA IV I may actually get a 360. |
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May 10 2006, 01:46 AM
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Chrome to the Core ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
For the record, I still don't like SR4. :)
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May 10 2006, 02:01 AM
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Shooting Target ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,840 Joined: 24-July 02 From: Lubbock, TX Member No.: 3,024 |
I should kill someone for this crap. I've literally waited years for a new SR game, and it's this utter garbage 12 year old gamer bullshit. Assholes.
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May 10 2006, 02:08 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,067 |
The difference, SL James, is that SR4 at least was still using the same universe and tried to remain true to the game's faithful, storyline wise.
This insults every single SR fan out there. period. |
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May 10 2006, 02:11 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
This might turn out to be a half decent game. Resurrect spells? The things cause Essence Loss. I imagine once the mages figure that out, the spell will largely drop out of use. Noone would bother learning a spell that'll burn you out. Tree of Life "spell"? Spirit with Innate Spell (Heal).
The race information is annoying, but other than that... |
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May 10 2006, 02:11 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 164 Joined: 7-July 03 Member No.: 4,891 |
I just discovered Deus Ex, so it's hard for me to get too worked up about this. SR video game? Yeah, I played that for four hours today.
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May 10 2006, 02:14 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 475 Joined: 13-March 06 From: dusty Mexican borderlands Member No.: 8,372 |
I disagree. I don't think MS is insulting players of Shadowrun. I think they're completely disregarding them. That's not the same as insult. You take yourself too seriously. |
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May 10 2006, 02:23 AM
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Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
Dude, how does SR4 destroy the old Street level bullshit? SL, I thought you'd sworn it off.
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May 10 2006, 02:33 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,067 |
It is said that in the gaming industry, the masses matter, but the core players (the hardcore) are whom the masses follow. But yeah, I'm probably making too much of it. I wrote a letter expressing my distaste with MechAssault back in the day, and that turned out... alright. |
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May 10 2006, 02:57 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,283 Joined: 17-May 05 Member No.: 7,398 |
Out of curiosity... how long until Hualpa et al move into Brazil and turn it into Amazonia?
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May 10 2006, 03:09 AM
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Beetle Eater ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 4,797 Joined: 3-June 02 From: Oblivion City Member No.: 2,826 |
2034 - On August 28, in Brazil, a force of Awakened beings and metahumans led by three great dragons, two of them identified as Hualpa and Sirrug, descends on the Amazon basin and seizes control of the city of Manaus. The army of the Amazon Awakened (as they come to be known) begin a systematic campaign of expansion from the Amazon Jungle. (Shadowrun Second Edition)
However, something on the game site gave me the impression that dragons weren't on the menu. |
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May 10 2006, 04:40 AM
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,987 Joined: 1-March 05 From: République Libre du Québec Member No.: 7,129 |
oh
my God. I've just gone through the game's website for the very first time. I did read any of the posts, to avoid any "contamination". I wanted to get my first impressions of the game in a totaly unbiased and uninfluenced way. Now, I simply regret ever hearing about the game. I want to gouge my eyes out. Why lord! WHHHHYYYYYYY!!!!! |
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May 10 2006, 05:53 AM
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Earth - Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund - Hannover Member No.: 7,624 |
http://www.gamingtarget.com/article.php?artid=5374
And they even made it worse: The game allows cross-platform play online. Xbox360 users will be able to play against PC users. That means there will be no difference in the look and feel of the console version and the PC version. :( |
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May 10 2006, 05:56 AM
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
It didn't insult me, nor did it really surprise me much. It isn't what I envisioned, but I didn't envision anything that would be a great tribute to Shadowrun.
Whenever something you love (a game, a comic book, a Tolkien trilogy) crosses genres you have to expect it to turn out to be utter crap. Most of the time the thing gets mangled (especially in the conversion to movies, but frequently in other areas as well). Expecting it to turn to crap just means you're greatly surprised and ecstatic when it becomes something great (like Lord of the Rings extended on DVD). |
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May 10 2006, 06:13 AM
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Running Target ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Halifax, Canada Member No.: 7,975 |
It looks like we'll all need to upgrade our Windows OS before we play the game as well.. seeing as Windows Vista isn't even out yet, they better make it backwards compliant or they'll end up alienating a lot of gamers.
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