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 May 11 2006, 09:59 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd  Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473  |
Where have I read that before? |
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May 11 2006, 10:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 225 Joined: 1-November 05 Member No.: 7,917 |
High anticipation doesn't mean much.
Have I brought up Advent Rising in here yet? Overall, there is one chance at a first impression and that goes double in the face of the inflating costs for next-gen development. Uwe Boll is more capable of making a passable SR movie than these guys are at making a good SR game. |
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May 11 2006, 10:17 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Seriously, the parallels (including the vitriol) with the response following the third SR4 FAQ is just shockingly identical, which amuses the shit out of me considering who was on which sides last year.
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May 11 2006, 10:31 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
but then SR4 carryed over the game world, but changed the mechanics of it. this trows out the game world as well as the mechanics...
therefor you will have a more uniform nay aimed at this FPS rip-off, while some just shrugged at the new mechanics as long as they could keep the world that had learned to love. |
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May 11 2006, 11:17 PM
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Harlequin Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 331 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 861 |
If you want to compare to the change to SR4, then imagine that FanPro said that instead of playing in 2070 SR4 would take place in 2021 with no goblinization, no orks and people changing into elves, dwarfs and trolls in 2012 (and more shit like that).
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May 11 2006, 11:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 681 Joined: 28-February 06 From: UK Member No.: 8,319 |
Actually you know. Corporation as clear-cut Good Guy? In this day and age that really is daring and different! I know there must be another case of a benevolent Corporation somewhere in fiction, but I just can't think of one! Anybody? |
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May 12 2006, 12:00 AM
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Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill. Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,545 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gloomy Boise Idaho Member No.: 2,006 |
I cringe at the thought of him getting near our beloved game. Ugh. As for the Console game... what do you expect? Its a console game! Dumb down the interface, dumb down the story line, more blood this is the cry of console gamers. PC games are "too complicated" whatever. There are so few good games released on consoles I am not surprised it will suck. Heaven forbid they make a Shadowrun game about Shadowrun. |
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May 12 2006, 12:28 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
I think this puts SR4 into perspective. It actually is the same game in very much the same world. With a similar tone. Sure there are some storytelling backflips and a few MINOR adjustments, but all in all the biggest change has to do with removing huge hunking wads of tediousness (tediousness that many people apparently liked) and the patchwork created by the first two major revisions and a decade and a half of additions. To start with there is the obvious effort that was put into doing so. FASA didn't even give "trying" lip service. P.S. I really don't get the Corp is the clear-cut Good Guy out of what they have. What i see is the the Corp is NOT the ultimate picture of evil, but still they did manage to destroy 1/2 a city (causing uncounted deaths) through incompetence (hello Ares!) and are forcibily repressing the rest of the city. It doesn't take much scratching to get below the their PR slogan of "making the world a better place through commerce" to see the naked selfinterest below. Nor are ancient protectors particularly altruistic. They come off somewhat above Winternight (which is obviously not a corp) and give the IE running that show a real dirty edge. I think that i one thing of SR that they managed not to irradicate. No clear good guys. |
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May 12 2006, 12:35 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
The Batman TV series. That was a ultra-camp, public broadcast sanitized bastardization of Batman. But it has become a somewhat successful and culturally accepted take on Batman. Not the only one, but one of them. How many people are there these days calling for Adam West's head on a platter for his part in that? Whether the game is in the end judged as a quality, fun video game in it's medium (squad PVP FPS) or not still remains to be seen. |
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May 12 2006, 12:39 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
That's a complete and utter lie, and you know it. For all its flaws I don't want to compare SR4 to this monstrosity, but it is not remotely the same world, the same game, or a vaguely similar tone. ~J |
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May 12 2006, 12:45 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
How much have you actually played of it? Besides the decker nolonger stuck in the basement unless he wants to be, and the extra AR glitz, it's the same grimey, "you stupid=you eventually dead" world. The history is certainly intact (just a couple of bruises in regards to details about adepts).
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May 12 2006, 12:51 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
some people dont like the apparent predictability of the new dice system...
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May 12 2006, 12:52 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
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May 12 2006, 01:00 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Perhaps you should be paying attention? Blakkie's reference to the facts not changing is in regards to people trying to parallel this to SR3 and SR4. The SR4 history is intact when viewed against an SR3 backdrop, because nothing changed about the world prior to SR4's 2070.
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May 12 2006, 01:07 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
whoops. damn all uses of the word "it", it's too confusing.
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May 12 2006, 01:56 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
This has nothing to do with the game. I'm just discussing the tone of the discourse. As soon as I saw one of their shills use the word blinders and constantly condescend about how they know more, I swear I was reading a freelancer's or playtester's (or both) posts back in late spring and summer of last year, especially in light of re-reading all of RPGpundit the other day looking for his Kenson-bashing quotes. And the critical posts are just as vicious (although, like the complaints here, hardly as ignorant as claimed by defenders) as they were last year. The games themselves? Irrelevant to me. |
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May 12 2006, 04:52 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Someone calling the German government of the late 1930's/early 1940's "facist" is a little different than them calling their dad a "facist" for booting their 29-year-old freeloading ass out of the basement and to the curb. ;)
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May 12 2006, 05:12 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
So, SR4 is Nazis?
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May 12 2006, 05:47 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,718 Joined: 14-September 02 Member No.: 3,263 |
Yes, but the good news is that it doesn't give you cancer. It is also a bit more selective about which of it's own citizens it snuffs, at least compared to Joey "SR3" Stalin. 8)
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May 12 2006, 06:09 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
But, you see, Adam West was excellent in the role. He pulled it off in a way that most other people couldn't (George Clooney, if I ever see you I will ask for my money back). Camp isn't easy to do well. Adam did it well. Now, it isn't just that Shadowrun is bastardized. It is that what we have been shown doesn't look link anything but standard genre fare. If it has the quality and appeal of Adam West's Batman then mor epower to them. I havn't seen anything to suggest that it will. This looks more like the Batman and Robin of Shadowrun. |
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May 12 2006, 06:10 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i find this thread to be absolutely hilarious. CrimsonDude's post is especially amusing, for unrelated reasons.
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May 12 2006, 06:37 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,925 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 948 |
If they would do THAT then I would start collecting money from all DS’ers so that we could buy the rights for the Shadowrun RPG and make our own Shadowrun game – SR5 with a HUUGE disclaimer telling future gamers that SR4 never existed and that it was just a myth. |
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May 12 2006, 07:30 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 16-January 05 Member No.: 6,984 |
Have you actually looked in the forum? It is almost entirely filled by angy angy people. |
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May 12 2006, 07:32 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,000 Joined: 17-November 05 From: Halifax, Canada Member No.: 7,975 |
I can't beleive Kanada Ten actually posted that he would play this game! Have you no shame in actually showing interest in this falacy?!
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May 12 2006, 07:37 AM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
yep, badly labeld context switching is a bitch... |
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