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 May 17 2006, 06:36 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 12-April 06 Member No.: 8,458  |
The books mention Atlantis or the Atlantis Project. What is it, a place or a project (I'm sure at some point some scientists even in our time has used the term Atlantis Project.)?
Either way, what is it? |
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May 17 2006, 06:43 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
<raises_eyebrow> The lost city/civilization/island of Atlantis.
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May 17 2006, 07:38 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 21 Joined: 12-April 06 Member No.: 8,458 |
I know that in real life. :) But what does Shadowrun say it is? Place or Project? And either way, what is it about? Some type of underwater experiment? Reference to genetic research? Weapon Research?
Is it the lost city itself and if so, where is it near (Other than the Atlantic Ocean. Is it closer to Europe, Africa, America, etc..) and what goes on there? Who inhabits the Island and what do they do? |
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May 17 2006, 07:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
As I understand it, the Atlantis folks mentioned in the sourcebooks are just a group of fresh-faced optimists looking for the lost city. Some more tantalizing clues have surfaced about Atlantis, but I don't think that the city has actually been definitively located--if it had, the sourcebooks would have made a HUGE deal about it. Until a sourcebook is published that discusses Atlantis in depth, I believe that you get to make up pretty much whatever you want about the group and/or the city. EDIT: Ehran the Scribe had this to say about Atlantis and its influence on world culture in his keynote speech at the Young Elven Technologists dinner:
Of course, there are those who claim that Ehran is BSing to make elves look better. Anyway, I hope this helps. You can find the full text of his speech here. |
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May 17 2006, 08:04 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
well, there's the Atlantean Foundation. you can read about it in LA, but the gist is that on the outside they're a bunch of magic-loving hippies who bankroll archeological digs and other projects aimed at discovering pre-Awakening magic stuff. on the inside, it's largely the same deal, except that if you find something cool, they'll probably kill you to get it (assuming other channels fail). they're run by a chick named Sheila Blatavska, who some believe to be an IE.
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May 17 2006, 08:23 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Generally speaking, Atlantis in Shadowrun is the excuse the Atlantean Foundation uses to dig up the remnants of the previous age of magic. In this case, Atlantis specifically refers to the island of Thera, which in a past age of magic was the home of the Theran Empire.
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May 18 2006, 04:42 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,888 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
And Sheila is supposedly Alachia (Loose Alliances for reference), which would explain where she knows where to dig. But if that's the case ,the lady must power nap like hell, because she's supposed to micro-manage the A.F. , while Alachia is a power behind the throne in Tir Na Nog, and meddles in Tir Tairngire (Worlds Without End, and T.T. SB for refernces).
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May 18 2006, 04:55 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
yeah. that's why i said "some believe". i mean, jeez.
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May 18 2006, 05:13 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,888 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
:D Sorry, I was just trying to give 'em some more info to work with. When I first got on these boards, you guys would talk about something ,and I'd go home trying to dig up some reference to figure out what the hell you were talking about.
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May 18 2006, 05:20 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 18-February 03 Member No.: 4,110 |
as one of a similar lot, let me say, your efforts are appreciated |
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May 18 2006, 05:25 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
the "jeez" was in reference to Alachia's "sleep is for the weak" lifestyle, btw. if she's Blatavska... criminey. that's a lot for one elf to be doing.
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May 18 2006, 05:32 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,888 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
ok, cool. Now, it is possible. I myself average about 3-4 hours of sleep a day in between working graves and taking care of my kids during the day. Throw in liberal use of the refresh spell, and perhaps some 4th age Spirit Portal/Gateway spell use to get around, and it's possible. If she's lowfyr's get (my opinion is that she is, not much to base that on), could explain the work-a-holic-ness.
Shansu: welcome. donations are appreciated as well. |
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May 18 2006, 05:34 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Who needs to power nap when you have a bajillion magic points to burn away with longhaul?
Or she could just use magic. With 10,000+ years worth of initiations and some of the best magical knowledge of three Ages at her disposal it is highly probable that she has a health spell that takes care of her need for sleep. There are already some that take care of the need and desire to eat and drink. Considering the fact that the vast majority of the most powerful beings in the world don't like her very much, it is safe to assume that she has a custom spell that removes waste from her intestines so she doesn't have to worry about checking her toiletpaper for deadly poisions. |
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May 18 2006, 05:36 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,888 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
:love: That's awesome. I love you man. |
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May 18 2006, 08:03 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 141 Joined: 12-August 05 From: Helsinki Member No.: 7,552 |
So lemme get this straight. The Atlantis which Ehran talks about and which to the Atlantean Foundation refers to, is actually the Isle of Thera? Wasn't Thera somekind of a great empire in the fourth age? And how megalomaniac are those geezers at AF anyway, are they hoping to cash in on every darn piece of antique, since the sourcebooks state them to be digging up in A LOT of places all over the world?
I've never understood why people thought Sheila Blatavska/Hecate to be Alachia, but now it's starting to make sense. |
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May 18 2006, 08:11 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
The Atlantis Ehran refers to is the Theran Empire of Earthdawn.
The Atlantean Foundation claims to be searching for remnants of Atlantis, and has focused primarily on the ruins of the Theran Empire, but has used the various legends and literature surrounding Atlantis as an excuse to carry on other investigations. Yes, they want to dig up as much as possible. |
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May 18 2006, 08:19 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
Interesting, I've always equated, at least geographically Thera with the island Thira (or more to the point what's left of it) in the Agean.
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May 18 2006, 08:22 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
So does the AF.
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May 18 2006, 09:26 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
So either there is something to it or they like having a nice office in Santorini ;)
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May 18 2006, 09:28 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
if Blatavska is Alachia? on a scale of 1-10, they'd be a pretty damn. |
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May 18 2006, 09:34 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Alachia is an 11.5.
For reference, Dogbert is a 9. |
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May 19 2006, 02:27 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
The atlantean organization seems like a bunch of new age flakes but it is implied that there is real power behind the top levels. The leader's name is almost identical to a Russian mystic in the late 19th C. who founded Theophistry. Some say she was a visionary, some say she was a charletan but she certainly tapped into the late victorian/edwardian occult rage.
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May 19 2006, 03:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 141 Joined: 12-August 05 From: Helsinki Member No.: 7,552 |
Also, doesn't that speech of Ehran's finally confirm that Leonarus isn't/wasn't Leonardo Da Vinci?
Ta' for the link to the speech by the way. It kinda put the racism of the IE's in perspective. Dunno if it justifies it though. |
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May 21 2006, 08:03 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 141 Joined: 12-August 05 From: Helsinki Member No.: 7,552 |
Hey, just out of curiosity, if Thera is Thira (somewhere on the mediterranean?) and Barsaive is close to Ukraine, where are the other places located? Blood wood? Cara Fahd? Throal? Not sure about the spelling though.
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May 21 2006, 08:57 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Cara Fahd lies in the southwest of Barsaive, Blood Wood in central north and Throal in the norteast of Barsaive, so go figure. :)
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