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 Dec 9 2003, 01:44 AM
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Manus Celer Dei  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802  |
You are wrong! This cannot be! There is no number 3 in Three!
And therein lies a tail... ~J |
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Dec 9 2003, 01:49 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Hahaha! ROFL! God I miss posting here.
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Dec 9 2003, 01:57 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Sphynx and thunderchild are two seperate people. |
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Dec 9 2003, 02:00 AM
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Illuminate of the New Dawn Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 317 Joined: 9-June 03 From: Seattle 'Plex, UCAS Member No.: 4,700 |
What, don't your Roleplaying games have stories? Or is it just one big string of combats and rules. :please: GM: Okay, new initiative pass. What is everybody doing? Player1: I'm picking up the remote and turning on the trid. GM: Okay, you can make the remote ready with a simple action and then turn on the trid with another, but you can't change the channel until your next initiative pass. Player2: I'm going into the kitchen to get Ork Rindz to snack on. GM (consulting blueprint of the apartment): Sorry, that exceeds your movement. You can get 3/4 of the way to the cupboard, but you'll have to actually get there and open the cupboard on the next turn. It'll be a free action to locate the Ork Rindz, though. I mean, really. I think we can all agree that at least that there is as much story in a roleplaying game as there are rules. |
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Dec 9 2003, 02:02 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Spirits pity the character who is taking a bathroom break. :D |
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Dec 9 2003, 02:04 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 |
Sorry my bad, don't see thunderchild around any more and sphynx has a character called thunderchild i believe. Forgot you were there, glad you remember it. :D Well enough of that anyway. |
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Dec 9 2003, 02:10 AM
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Illuminate of the New Dawn Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 317 Joined: 9-June 03 From: Seattle 'Plex, UCAS Member No.: 4,700 |
So, what do you think - is pissing an exclusive complex action or just a complex one? I mean, could you imagine trying to summon a spirit while taking a leak? That would be one insulted spirit. :grinbig: |
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Dec 9 2003, 02:10 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,685 Joined: 17-August 02 Member No.: 3,123 |
There is a minor joke in my group that the Task Pool's best feature is that it really helps you squeeze out those stubborn ones when you're on the can. |
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Dec 9 2003, 02:16 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
I don't know about you but a story is something I read before bed. I never played a story game before, so I can't tell you what that is. I play RPGs with my friends. :noob: |
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 Dec 9 2003, 02:45 AM
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Illuminate of the New Dawn Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 317 Joined: 9-June 03 From: Seattle 'Plex, UCAS Member No.: 4,700 |
Ah. Then your smiley is correct. You are a newbie. :P |
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Dec 9 2003, 04:31 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
So says a Target. At least I'm a Moving :noob: Target. :rollin:
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Dec 9 2003, 04:51 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
As a Running Target, I declare you both newbies. :newbie:
~J |
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Dec 9 2003, 05:13 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
No fair. I'm a dwarf, movement rate x 2. Naturally, I can't run as fast as you! :D |
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Dec 9 2003, 05:44 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
You could if his Quickness was 4 and yours was 6! :D |
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Dec 9 2003, 05:45 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,047 Joined: 12-November 03 From: Perilously close to the Sioux Nation. Member No.: 5,818 |
Quickness 6 dwarves?
Bah! Bah I say! |
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Dec 9 2003, 06:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 608 Joined: 9-July 02 From: California Member No.: 2,955 |
But my ghoul satyr with kid stealth legs and a movement power can beat you all!
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Dec 9 2003, 06:56 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Nope! High Force Levitate plus Movement Power can beat that. :D |
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Dec 9 2003, 07:16 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 142 Joined: 27-May 02 Member No.: 2,776 |
Shockwave - dunno what the knuckler combustion reference was about - i just hope it wasnt about dikoting ally spirits - i have been hiding on Everquest playing on the rule free team pvp server (SZ) where i strove to make people sad in RL as much as possible and where lying, cheating, stealing, racism, and politics are the main course every day - I will try and behave here though - i guess you guys have some kind of play nice rules for posting tot,
yeah, um... sure - i think that only the very bestest poster should quote canon - the rest of us can make reference to magic cards and D&D books to make our points - we should make a poll to see who should be granted the title of the King of Shadowrun - could you start one up tot? I just wouldn't know who to list besides you ...
If you told 100 people to write an essay on what BE FAIR means then you would get 100 different answers. I have seen arguements that make the whole "depends on what the definition of 'is' is" look reasonable. words have context and that context can make and word mean 100 million different things. You wave words around like they are talisma used to ward off thought. Of course a certain amount of fairness is needed in order to sustain friendly interactions - but the kind Polaris asks for is really more appropriate for a competition and not the kind of fairness necessary in a roleplaying game. Polaris assumes the GM is out to get him and interperetes the rules in the way that best sheilds him from an imagined attack from the GM, threatening that if he doesnt get his way then he will leave. I dunno - maybe GMs really do have it in for him, but I tend to play with people I like so I haven't ever felt the need for the GM to "BE FAIR" in the sense that Polaris was using the word. When it was possible that my GM was making rulings that could possibly be interpereted as unfair to me, I gave him the benefit of the doubt and didnt stress about it. For Polaris the mere possibility that a GM could be unfair is unacceptable. The GM needs to have a certain leeway when managing the game/story in order to keep it interesting and fun. Rules are not the primary concern and judicious breaking of rules can enhance the enjoyment of the game. In one of the games we played we made a house rule that no rules argument can take longer than 5 min and at the end if it looked like it could go either way then we flipped a coin and that was the rule. Not the best way to ensure the most technically accurate version of the rule but it let us play the game instead of wasting time arguing over game mechanics.
I read them - thank you for asking - your interest in me as a person is flattering. I didn't know you cared. Though there are plenty of people who just start playing and read the rules later and I don't see anything wrong with that; rules can stifle creativity.
It is always ok to houserule. Everyone lacks knowledge. The two are unconnected. Don't worry though your quip didn't escape me - i know you meant it as an insult; but your Mother and I still love you.
My terminology was chosen to match a previous post. Story Game = roleplaying game if you were confused. Sorry to make you stress out.
Here is the useful content of your post, for which I am grateful. In contrast to the rest of the post it is a useful addition and contained information to help me better understand my position and clarify my articulation. You could have confined your post to just this, but then I would have been robbed of the chance to get a view of the person behind the post. What a delight that has been. I admit that on the topic of fairness, my previous post was misleading and too general. See above for my clarification, which may possibly still contain error and likely fails to exactly articulate the idea I am trying to express. 3Threes |
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Dec 9 2003, 07:28 AM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,512 Joined: 16-August 03 From: Northampton Member No.: 5,499 |
Hell no, It was just a comment on your ability to argue a point! It was no warning. (and trust me it's a good thing you don't know the Knuckler combustion reference. 130+ post in 3 days i think. It got a bit heated) |
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 Dec 9 2003, 08:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 203 Joined: 3-April 03 Member No.: 4,370 |
holy crap i was gonna post a reply arguing that thunderbolt should be able to crack ceramic stuff, but thought to myself that i should read the rest before i do so... that's when i realized i was only on page 5 out of 16. it was at that moment that i lost all will to care ::sigh:: good job you guys, my will has be snapped like a dry twig :P
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Dec 9 2003, 11:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 280 Joined: 21-April 03 From: Singapore Member No.: 4,487 |
This has to be one of the most hopelessly pointless and hysterically funny threads on DSF I've read in a LONG time!!! :D
Half the time, I caught myself thinking, "What's the topic again?" :eek: I'm amazed the mods didn't shut down the thread much earlier but I'm glad they didn't!!! :grinbig: |
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Dec 9 2003, 12:18 PM
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Illuminate of the New Dawn Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 317 Joined: 9-June 03 From: Seattle 'Plex, UCAS Member No.: 4,700 |
Yeah, I remember the first thread I ever posted to... it was about whether elves were overpriced vs. the other races. Well, it started there. I think it ended at around 23 pages or so when a moderator shut it down because the last two or three pages had just been constant flaming because everyone was so pissed off and frustrated. Ah, yes... Course, it wasn't nearly as funny as some parts of this. :|
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Dec 9 2003, 01:27 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,013 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Actually, that was perhaps his most reasonable defense. He was asked "is there a sexual relationship between you and that woman" or something similar, and while there was not one at the moment (is being present tense) there had been at one time. He screwed all that up badly, but that question was not an example of it. ~J |
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Dec 9 2003, 02:14 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 53 Joined: 13-November 03 Member No.: 5,820 |
Since I know how popular d20 systems are here....
I'd like to point out that it's actually a lot easier in 3e DnD to damage objects. In addition to the previously mentioned "natural 1" circumstance, 3e added feats that allow you to target objects (Improved Sunder) and a host of rules that make it easier to destroy PC property. If you drop your potion flask (or are dropped on it), then you need to roll apporiate damage versus the flasks hardness/hit points. Many spells can target possessions of PCs, although they'll be considered "attended" and get the character's saving throw. Still, this means that I can cast disintergrate, make a ranged touch attack, and blast the Wizard's staff from the multiverse. Other spells like acid fog deal with how they affect items. My group just plays out of the book in terms of rules, so we use all of the above examples. |
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Dec 9 2003, 03:02 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 68 Joined: 11-May 02 Member No.: 2,723 |
I don't know if it was mentioned already, or if you still read this thread, Polaris, but I would like you to stop several annoying habits:
1. Stop using latin words and phrases. It only confuses readers since they are not familiar with it (as in "use it everyday.") You yourself may or may not be familiar with it, the readers will judge you (also by your spelling of "reduct[i]o ad absurdum" and "sacrosan[c]t.") 2. Stop making assertions with authority you don't possess. I saw some reference to a physicist about some electricity question. I doubt a physicist would make such simple mistakes. But I don't blame you, you are perhaps a victim of military education. 3. Do not expose me to your loophole exploiting. As an example: You state: certain kinds of materials (ceramics) cannot be harmed by certain kinds of (magical) elemental manipulations (acid streams). Nature law applies (in a generalized fashion). You also state: this fragile silicium chip (highly processed material), which would be destroyed for all electronic uses if a grain of sand hit it, is (near) immune to acid streams since it has OR 10+. Nature law obviously doesn't apply. Now what is it? Thank you. [Oh, yes -- before you flame me for abusing the english language, I'm not a natural speaker. Sorry for all the inconveniences.] Now on to the real reason I wanted to post: I believe the SR authors intended to add to the scenery (flavour) when they came up with fetishes (and did not intend to give spellcasters another way to improve their abilities numbers-wise for nuyen.) If I think "fetish", I see a houngan with a puppet in his hands stabbing it repeatedly with a needle, while his corper opponent reels under the mental impact of a mana bolt. I think identical (apart from their enchantment) ceramic implant teeth are cheesy. And Zazen, thank you for giving me good moment (with the fish tank example) when I dreamt of a player bringing a B&E specialist character sheet: No combat abilities, but Knowledge Skill: Combat (6) "I know how to deal with him!" |
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