 Metahuman Anatomy and Physiology, the R version, or, Sex and the Single Metahuman |
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 Jul 20 2006, 08:53 PM
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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98  |
I still wanna know how the "Dwarf women have beards" thing made it into a SR talk.
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Jul 20 2006, 08:57 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
What percentage of RL human women can grow substantial facial hair? I've seen some women that have beards. And I'm not talking about one or two stray whiskers on an old lady, nor am I talking about a full and bushy "bearded lady" style beard, either. Now I figure, for every lady sporting a beard that I actually see, there must be hundreds that shave/wax/electrolysize/laser remove. So how many women could grow significant facial hair, if they didn't remove it? Hmmmmm.
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Jul 21 2006, 12:05 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 31 Joined: 26-June 06 Member No.: 8,783 |
It's a question of genetics, largely determined by ethnicity. Some genetic backgrounds are biologically predisposed toward balances of hormones conducive to growth of body hair. At the same time, it's often hard to guess which ethnic backgrounds correlate with prolific hair growth because cultural pressures induce women to remove their body hair for cosmetic reasons. One can make one's own observations; I prefer to keep mine to myself, for fear that I might be incorrect. :) -S |
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Jul 21 2006, 12:39 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 247 Joined: 28-November 04 Member No.: 6,852 |
This whole thing sounds like a really bad "Shadowrun meets F.A.T.A.L." joke... :eek:
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Jul 21 2006, 01:45 AM
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Chrome to the Core Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,152 Joined: 14-October 03 From: ::1 Member No.: 5,715 |
Ha! Yeah. This is entirely too contrived. Your game or whatever, but this is just silly. |
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Jul 21 2006, 03:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 8,717 |
This is hilarious! I can't imagine that this had any other intention other than laughs, though. It just as silly as vibrating cyber vaginas.
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Jul 21 2006, 03:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 903 Joined: 7-February 03 Member No.: 4,025 |
shhh... you don't wanna start anything.
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Jul 21 2006, 04:05 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...I think it's to late. |
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Jul 21 2006, 05:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Iraq Member No.: 1,789 |
The thing I don't understand is how the physiology is so different "down there" if all meta-races expressed from humans. Yeah in the 4th age they were their own races but most of the 2070 ones are children of expressed parents. 40 years is a fast time to suddenly evolve completely different genitalia.
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Jul 21 2006, 06:29 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 20 Joined: 25-January 04 From: somewhere Member No.: 6,015 |
Interesting. I'll say nothing more on it than that. And hey, I'm all for elven women not having menstrual cycles. Now if I could apply that to my own life...
As for "forty years to develop different genetalia", evolution and the like is hardly predictable. I don't study evolution or biology to that degree, but it's possible, to a degree, for things to at least begin to change like that. I don't know if it's possible that quickly, but recessive genetics, man... I'm not clear on SR's look at genetics, though. Ergo, not sure how they'd play in, but they might. Dun quote me on any of that, though. |
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Jul 21 2006, 08:53 AM
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It's for winners Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 523 Joined: 8-February 05 From: Wiltshire with da shooty stuff Member No.: 7,067 |
I must agree with your sentiment, the concept of reproduction in primates, i am a firm believer in the sentiments of Jared Diamond who has also written allot about human evolution...... and about third man (could this be orc?) The ideas you put out are well thought out and the cycle of the elf is similar to that of primates (some) but as we don't know what they are thinking it is not possible to say they only have arousal at the time of heat, however the only other primate apart from man which douse is a type of monkey whos name escapes me they do it for fun and bonding, with anything they can get there hands on. I know that elf biology is not the same as human and to all intents and purposes not real. However you have to draw something from our biology if they were goblinised or born elf (it's a case of genetics). Dwarves well, if you look at skeletal differences in male and female primates of all species there is one simple difference between the both, the brow ridge, even in illustrations seen in source books the male's have a brow ridge's and the female's don't, ( well almost a bit hard to tell in the case of orks and trolls). The argument could be made that the Dwarf, Elf, Ork and Troll are different species but they came from a base species (that being man) and should still hold some simalaritys to anatomy. However this subject could be debated for a long time and it is not proven science, so anything go's. Good concept torz x |
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Jul 21 2006, 01:13 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Nope, not really. Massive changes aren't how evolution works. It is all about minor differances that don't significantly deviate from normal but which provide a reproductive advantage. Over thousands of generations those minor deviations will be standardized and/or exagerated. Such massive changes over such a short period of time would not be evolution, it would be revolution. However, UGE is not evolution. Rather, it is the expression of traits which alread existed but which had been supressed by enviromental factors. 5000 years is not nearly enough time to select against those suppressed traits so there wouldn't be any evolution away from them. Say, for example, I started a island colony and put a chemical in the water supply that caused fetuses to devolp clubbed feet. Over the centuries, clubbed feet would begin to seem normal to the inhabitants of this island. However, if the contaminant is removed the children born without it will have normal feet. This has nothing to do with evolution. The same is true for lactating men. Men have all of the structures necessary for a fuunctional breast and we are able to devolp those structures into working milk-machines. However, most men do not have large working breasts because we lack the necessary hormones. The introduction of those hormones is all that is necessary to produce a race of big-breasted men. In this case, the enviromental factor is mana. Personally, I would look at metahuman anatomy it from the Fourth World rather than the Sixth World. I also wouldn't make the differences so extreme. I'm just glad he didn't state that elf males go into a period of sexual frenzy once every seven years, which requires them to either mate or kill their Captain. |
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Jul 21 2006, 02:05 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,548 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I did guess on the orks being cat-like, although I was under the impression that ovulation didn't occur due to orgasm, but due to vaginal stimulation (more generally). BTW, like cats, here ork mothers can give birth to a litter that has two or more fathers. Can you imagine being "twins" with your half-brother?
The troll surprises me though. We already have human reproduction. Given the hentai background we're using, I think it only makes sense that troll penises are actually tentacles. |
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Jul 21 2006, 02:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 3,348 |
Because everyone knows orks and trolls are just animals. :please: And elves are all hawt nymphos who are far to speshul to have deal with messy ol' biology like real women. :please: And dwarves are so manly that even their women have beards and dicks. :please: Isn't it fun turning them into one-dimesional sterotypes. :please: |
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Jul 21 2006, 02:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 276 Joined: 29-September 02 Member No.: 3,348 |
Orks giving birth in litters is one of the most nonsensical things in the setting. Magic Indians conquering half of North America makes more sense. Art Dankwalter makes more sense. |
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Jul 21 2006, 02:38 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 475 Joined: 17-June 02 From: Concord University, Athens, WV Member No.: 2,880 |
Mana is all that's necessary to give men big breasts? We might want to rethink that awakening thing... I know what you meant, but it's morning and that's what I saw at first... |
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Jul 21 2006, 03:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 31-March 05 From: Georgia Member No.: 7,270 |
not to necessarily disagree with you about the silliness of litters, but isn't there a hormone treatment they give now that increases fertility, and the chance at twins, triplets, quadriples or whatever the heck? could ork females naturally carry such a hormone? It's a question not a statement, so nobody flame me. |
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Jul 21 2006, 03:31 PM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
Its more a meta reason to have large young populations of orks.
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Jul 21 2006, 03:39 PM
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Genuine Artificial Intelligence Group: Members Posts: 4,019 Joined: 12-June 03 Member No.: 4,715 |
I'll buy it. You know why? Because whenever I read about any fictitious biology it's all very well explained and makes a lot of sense. Then I watch Discovery and they talk about real-life animals that live in rainforests, in Austrailia, or in the ocean, and they're a whole lot weirder than you can get away with in fiction before people start calling "bullshit."
Now if all that wacky crap is possible in RL, and I've already suspended my disbelief enough to add mana and metagenes into the mix, I say, "Sure, why the heck not?" |
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Jul 21 2006, 07:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 27-January 06 Member No.: 8,205 |
A few months out of here and this is what I fall into...
I need an elf woman... :lick: |
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