Disclaimer: This document contains speculative discussion of sexual and reproductive structure and physical function, though the line is drawn at actual sex acts. If reading this is against your state/county/city/province/country's laws or your own morals or religion, then by all means click back on your browser. There now, you've been told. As far as I can tell, not even the Shadowrun novels go into any detail into them, so I don't think I am violating canon. The rest of you can highlight below to read what I've written.

That is just silly.

Sources include anime, and...oh, anime.
Not really my cup of tea, and I seriously doubt dwarven females are running around sporting members.

'A' for effort, though.

I don't think I wanna be a dwarf woman anymore....

However, dwarf women do appear to be clean-shaven, if only in the SR art I've seen, so I comfort myself with the notion that you may be incorrect.

Im going to echo Fangirl about the hair thing. So far there isnt anything cannon, or art related to suggest they grown facial hair.

Seconding the silly.

dickchick dwarves, and hot elven women in heat. great.

also, the references to pre-Awakening dwarves and elves are... weird.

So dwarves reproduce like hyenas and elven women are more likely to be lesbians just because once a month they have an itch they just DESPERATELY need scratched, by anyone and anything?

Hmmm, I wonder what he's going to write about orcs and trolls?

3 Karma to the one who PMs me with the closest guess...

Well we all know that orcs multiply like rabbits...

I hope he works one of them so that if you rub their rumps vigorously, you get an automatic sexual response like you do with cats. I think it'd be funny to rub the rump of the troll sammy and watch her drop to her knees and put her butt in the air, ready for some play.

Uh, sorry. I feel bad for you after writing all that out and I kind of hope that someone posts here in support of you soon. But that somebody isn't going to be me. To be honest, this is a little disturbing. Dwarven babies with giant clitorises?

I think you've brought too much stuff in from some fantasy genres to inform your dwarf physiology. I've never seen anything in Shadowrun to suggest that dwarf females have excess facial hair nor any good reason why they should. As to the pelvic similarities, etc. This would be very limiting in terms of the species success. Women have wider pelvises because they need them. Men don't so they have something better suited to running around and quick movement. Ditto for wasteful resources of genital doubling up.

As to elven women going into heat. I hate to tell you this but human women are basically in a permanent state of being "in heat." Given a suitable mate and normal health, a woman can become aroused at any time, whether fertile or not. Animals that go into heat simply are not interested the rest of the time, that is all. You should read a book called "Why is Sex Fun?" by Jared Diamond. It talks about why female primates (a) remain in a state of sexual receptivity even when infertile and (b) why unlike nearly all other animals, they conceal whether or not they are fertile from the male of the species. Even baboon's asses change colour, and the females of most mammal species at least have the decency to smell different. But human males are kept in a state of permanent (but usually deluded) optimism about the fertility of the women around them. Basically, it has to do with the gestation and raising time of young and the need to keep a mate loyal. Given that cannon suggests elven maturation is even longer than humans, it makes even less sense for them to have a "heat" phase.

Sorry about this.

-K.

p.s. I've declined to grey out my reply as sex and anatomy are perfectly normal parts of life. On the remote chance that some ten-year old actually is interested in this stuff rather than Yu-Gi-Oh or whatever it is this year, then they're quite welcome to read my thoughts. Though I think they're best off enjoying the last few years of thinking kissing is icky before puberty knocks them senseless for the next eight years.

I found it quite fascinating and very, very original. I don't think I'd apply it in Shadowrun (I don't go into sex enough for it to matter), but I might apply it elsewhere. I think it's neat, certainly entertaining, and I WOULD like to see Orks and Trolls.

I also question about women not smelling different when they're fertile. It may not always be as obvious as tails in the air and red bottoms, but it can be fairly clear.

the detail is nice, but it's just too hentai. and i don't think all those lesbian elf PCs need any encouragement.

+1 karma to SuperFly for the computer geek pun.

Great.

Why must people post stuff I cannot un-see?

I should have just never clicked on the thread.

Argh.


-karma

I can help Karma,

I prescribe 1 red hot poker to the frontal lobe. repeat until you "unsee".

Maybe I don't watch enough hentai to have seen it done elsewhere

WHAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

I prefer my Shadowrun Futanari to remain purely in the realm of bioware and cosmetic surgery. Surely, there is a place for such things but that place is the seediest of Bunraku parlors.

Yeah... that was kinda silly.

Especially the hair.

Personally... I just assume they're all pretty much like humans, aside from some size differences, slightly varied pregnancy times, and maybe some other minor differences (elves tending toward less body hair, dwarves more).

As to the futanari aspect mentioned earlier... It'd be entirely possible with bioware, or possibly a custom-designed spell for those who want to be all-natural. And really, why assume only the most twisted of perverts would go for it? I can imagine some bisexuals might want to really have it both ways (in fact, one of my players online, a bisexual girl, has said she'd have that done if it were possible).

For that matter, I'm sure someone has thought about doing it to a character with SURGE...

While I don't buy into the dwarven heyenas, I'll certainly buy the thing about elf women being, to a woman, nymphos at random.

Don't be too harsh to the dude, he's just telling his theory, and, since there isn't any canon on it (though I remember reading something about meta-human anatomy in the finnish translation of 2nd edition BBB, which was silly), is just a suggestion on how things work between the sheets with metas. I'm not saying that the next time I play with my group I'm gonna give them a lecture about elven chicks on heat or qwarven genitals.

Please go on, with orks and trolls. It'll surely be intresting, if nothing else.

I think I've been scarred for life. Every time I close my eyes, images of dwarven dickgirls screwing elves in heat will invade my mind. If only I could get rid of the dwarf.

I recomend an Ares Predator in 10mm Caseless. Perfect for disposing of all your dwarven woes, so you can get on to what's important in life - the elf.

Orks:

Like Elf women, Ork women do not mensturate, a fact which makes female Ork Poseurs with tampons or menstural pads in their purses glaringly obvious.

As a matter of fact, Ork women do not even have a regular fertility cycle. Instead, they ovulate at orgasm. Well, that's something of a gross oversimplification. Unlike all other (meta)human overies, Ork overies don't start killing egg cells to pare down from the standard 20 million present at birth, to about 200,000. During arousal, their uterus (which is two horned, making it more like a monkey's than an other [meta]human's) engorges with blood, which causes the buildup of the uterine lining. Then, at every orgasm the sex act produces, the overies relase an egg (or sometimes two). This ovulation, however seems to be partially controled by the vomeronasal organ: Masturbating alone does not seem to cause ovulation, only sex with a live male partner. As a result, Ork birth control pills must use a special chemical process in order to supress the release or absorption of Folicle Stimulation Hormone.

Other differences form the human norm in Ork female sexual anatomy and physiology include a pattern of arousal closer to the male in other metatypes (unlike the female norm where the sex drive grows with each satisfactory encounter, and slowly wains if satisfactory sex isn't able to be found, An Ork female's sex drive is more or less constant, but tends to rise [sometimes markedly] in the absence of satisfactory encounters) and a rather larger and more prominent clitoris (but nothing like the dwarven condition)

The Ork male's sex organs show three differences from the Human norm:

1. Size: the average Ork member is about 1" longer and 1 centimeter wider in diameter compered to the Human norm within the same ethno-racial background. However the average Ork testicles are rather larger. The Human Norm is somewhat golf ball sized. The Ork norm is closer to the size of a navel orange. (Though this still makes them smaller than Chimpanzees and Bonobos)

2. The Glans Penis: It is lined with lots of triangular barbs, nuch like a cat's

3. It's condition at rest: In Ork males, the condition is at a state of constant semi-erection known as Penis Rectus (look it up on google)

Trolls:

The Troll penis is covered by a full sheath (like a dog) and is only fully reveald by either pushing back the sheath, or at full erection. Also, while larger than the penises of all other metatypes, it is not as large in purportion to Troll body size as a human one, and Troll testicle size is actually smaller than Ork (roughly lemon sized, or maybe large lime).

Strangely enough, other than overall size (and a somewhat larger clitoris in porportion to the Human norm), the average Troll female sexual-reproductive is little different from the average Human norm.

Well, kudos for having the balls to continue. I'd have crawled into a hole a died, methinks.

>_<

Eidolon, that's... Not... So wrong... That's fucking wrong.



And now that the anatomy lesson is over, can we get to the part everyone's been waiting for; Kalvan's take on female elves and their sexual habits with other females/shemales/hermaphrodites.

silly

The female dwarves with facial hair is a sad pullover from D&D. Not a single female dwarf in a canon picture has ever had a beard. And large penis-like clitoris? Have female dwarves been injecting steroids into their asses like Chyna? I think that male dwarves hip structure would be slightly slimmer than females.

Wow, elven women go into heat now and don't menstruate. Great, just another reason why I fucking hate elves. They always get the best strengths but no weaknesses. How bout you make them smell funny or something. Oh wait, we need some fap material. Yeah bisexual elf women

And why the hell do Trolls have dog-sheaths on their penises? And Orks have barbs like cats? Damn, I would hate to be the Lone Star cop that has to process a rape victim that was assaulted by Ork and Troll gangers.

Although never really brought up in my game I think that some of your "interpretations" are a little far fetched. Seems to copy-paste from D&D.

Oh, multiple orgasms? That sounds fine, except I don't see how an ork woman is likely to achieve even a single orgasm when her vagina is getting torn to bits!

To quote William Shatner: "You... Have you ever kissed a girl?!"

While I personally think this was a silly exercise, there is not any reason to think that Kalvan won't use it in his game, so I am not bashing the concept. OK, everyone clear?

Now, onto business...No one PMed me any predictions, so Kalvan gets the Karma for posting his Orcs and Trolls data.

There, business concluded! Admin, you may now lock this thread.

the ork and troll ones are interesting. i'm still not terribly keen on the idea of shemale dwarves and horny elves. the dwarven anatomy presented would be more appropriate in Middle Earth, as the dwarven females there are, unlike in SR, presented as being pretty manly (beards, etcetera). the persistent sexual arousal of female elves is a no-go. plays way too much into adolescent fantasies--and, like i said, they don't need any encouragement.

Dude, the Awakening must happen NOW, dammit.

Come on now, nobody's saying you have to use this stuff. Personally, I thought it was an interesting read and an interesting take on metahuman physiology. Am I going to use it? No, probably not. I thought the differences were a bit extreme and I'd like to keep things a bit more "neutral" in my game, but I still appreciate that he posted one possible take on the issue.
Alright, that's all I had to say. Back to the beared chicks with dicks jokes.