OOC: Sex, Lies and Trid Chips, Out of Character Thread - SR4 - GM Blitz Options

[Abbandon]

Well my girly is ready to get on with the negotiations which i dont plan on doing, but i'll wait for other players to catch up? I think the rest of you guys should check in and say if your ready to move on.

Blitz. What day does the package arrive exactly? What time? Will it arrive with a security force? What kind of defenses does the building have(camera's, razorwire fences, paranormal beasts)?? Any other boring info you wanna give us ooc that a standard recon of the area would provide? What kind of police presense is there around that warehouse?

I dont think you ever confirmed that you are indeed this johnson named Mack to the runners although it looks like one of us already knows you.

[Blitz]

Abbandon, you'll have to actually roleplay any recon you wish to do. This isn't a strategy game, it's a role playing game. The fun is in the journey and all the fun steps in between.

[JackRipper]

Johnny will volunteer for that, as it is in his line to case out places.

Once we begin planning, survellience Johnny has a place to pick up equipment cheap...or cheap equipment lol. We can rp that out when we get to that point, dont worry Blitz it's a canon resource.

[adamu]

Well, I agree with Abbandon that we are ready to move on to the final and all-important money stage. Looks like Buddha agrees as well....
Standing by....

[Fenris]

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Just to clarify, Abbandon, I think Mac is the one putting together the group, not someone above her.

[adamu]

Die rolls and stuff - where they are supposed to be, by golly! (Abbandon is the man.)

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Okay, hopefully won't put the other team members off with all this business-school-type talk, but as I heard Mac is ex-corp, wanted to establish that I can deal with her with a corporate level of professionalism, a realistic sense of the bottom line. To that end, I will roll corp et

Charisma + etiquette + corp spec = 11 dice

3 4 1 1 4 6 3 6 5 2 3 = 3 successes

More importantly - I watch her face, body language, hands as closely as I can at the moment I suggest that less than 50% front pay increases the temptation to double-cross us - looking for her reaction to such a concept
Judge intentions
Charisma + Intuition = 10 dice

5 1 1 5 4 4 6 1 5 2 = 4 initial successes

rerolling 6 failures with edge

5 3 5 1 3 1 = 6 total successes

Negotiation just for the half up front point

Charisma + Negotiation + Bargaining =13 dice

4 4 5 5 5 6 4 1 1 1 6 1 6 = 6 successes

Of course slash and burn off the right-hand end if there are heinous penalties (or add some rolls if there are bonuses). I didn't venture to judge modifiers myself - there are just so many variables in social situations.

If you need any other or different rolls, just let me know.

[Abbandon]

*slaps adamu on the hands with a ruler* Repeat after me:

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Can i try to gauge the johnson to while Adamu/Tad is speaking with her?
Charisma 6 + intuition 4 + Kinesics 2(4) = 14 dice??
2,6,6,4,2,2,1,3,1,3,2,1,5,3 = 3 hits

Kinesics says you get +2 for all social tests and i think an additional +2 for gauge speech so thats +4?.

[Blitz]

Adamu: You dont get any indication that she plans to doublecross you or that she is being anything less than guardedly truthful. You do pick up what seems to be mild irritation whenever you use obvious corp buzzwords. You get a very vague sense of her contempt for the corp language despite her own very corp demeanor. As far as the negotiations goes, you are fairly confident you've just pushed her up to her budget ceiling.

Abbandon, what is it you are trying to gauge?

[Abbandon]

The same thing adamu was gauging.

[Blitz]

Abbandon. You find the elf woman is very hard to read. So much you almost expect her to have a hobby playing poker on the side. The kind of hobby she typically wins. There is a brief moment during you Tad's face off with her that you catch a hint of irritation, but it's gone so quickly, you wonder if you even saw what you think you saw.

[Buddha72]

Intuition + Assensing (7)
02 04 05 05 05 05 06 (5 hits)

Table for results is on pg. 183 in SR4 main book.

[Blitz]

Astral rapeage commencing ;)

Mack is healthy, but seems to be recovering from a series of gunshots to her torso, your guess, within the past 6 months.

Her exact essence - ugh...haven't actually fully updated her to SR4 so Im going with a general guess of around 1 to 1.5. You have it, I just dont know it ;)

Location of implants, many. She seems to have a system of wires running along her central nervous system as well as a healthy amount of modifications to her eyes, ears and head. It seems to be mostly bioware, but the balance seems to be a walking tightrope of bioware and cyberware just leaving enough behind for her to not be in danger of unnecessary stress or loss of humanity.

She has no force and is non magical.

Her general emotional impression is trepidation. She's worried that your group is too inexperienced to serve her needs and there's a touch of deseration that this whole deal needs to succeed. She's sure as hell hiding it well though.

[JackRipper]

Eta Engineering Corp is in charge of Saniation
Shiawase Envirotech is in charge of Public works

-From Runners Haven page 68.

I'm under the impression Johnny would have this knowledge from past heists, but Blitz you have the final say on that info availability to him.

[Blitz]

Sure...you did the legwork enough so I dont have to look it up, I'll let ya know it ;)

[JackRipper]

If the info Johnny has is kosher, most of the uniforms will be on the big side (meta's like trolls and orks, possibly dwarves too...the Eta part means untouchable in japanese [roughly] and it focuses on hiring meta's [I believe])

[Blitz]

This is an area Mack doesn't have personal knowledge of, so she will not confirm or deny what you tell the group. If you ask her to get uniforms, she'll check her contacts and see what she can acquire

[adamu]

Um, not forgetting about receiving initial payment, just politely leaving it to her. And with our comms jammed...well, mine's still open to receive funds if and when the jammer goes off.

[Abbandon]

@team

So we plan on splitting an apartment for a team HQ? That would be around 333Y for 1 month. Or do we immedeately get that 20% discount on a group rate in which case it would be 266Y. Or do runners in the 70's just use a virtual HQ. We could make a grassy field with a giant tree in the middle on top of a small rolling hill with a tree house in the branches as our fort. As long as we dont use keywords about the mission there should be zero chances of being monitored except maybe by our johnson.

Fenris do you have any drones or anyone else? It would be sweet if we cruised around in a vehichle while we all watched drones on our gear.

@blitz

we can use satillites to zoom in on specific neighborhoods with google. I imagine in 2070 shadowrun people can zoom in on a specific neighborhood, at a specific time, and watch live video of that time. Maybe even make 3d images of it all.

I think that level of tech would be common knowledge to everyone as its probably used in the news every night or something. So should we be pretty cloak and dagger about our insertions and extractions in game? Like if we haul ass out of a factory in a white van are the bad guys just gonna be able to access some satelite footage and replay the time period and follow our van back to our hideout?? If so we will have to use overpass's and parking garages and lots of other tricks to ditch satelite imaging.

[Blitz]

The technology is available today, it's not the tech curve that limits that sort of use to government agencies, it's the government themselves. That sort of data is too sensitive to be available to the Mainstream. You can certianly get satellite images of an area, but it's not real time and it's usually about 4 months behind real time.

[adamu]

If it is helpful at all, SOTA 2064 has (SR3) rules on getting satellite access.

[spudrocks]

The virtual hq would not work for Roc. He would more than likely get lost. Gremlins 3.

Blitz, I assume Roc would know who Ceasar is?

[JackRipper]

Johnny is a bit of a traditionalist that prefers real life meets also...he does deal in actual physical merchandise, so sort of a neccessity. I will accept whatever you all think is best, but (isnt there always a but) Johnny isnt that keen on it.

[Blitz]

Spud...roll Logic + yakuza

anyone else can do the same...Logic + any organized crime related knowledge skill

[Fenris]

IC, I'd definitely vote for the VR headquarters.

OOC, since one of the characters is liable to cause serious malfunctions in any of the gear he comes in contact with, I'd rather go RL.

[adamu]

I agree that non-virtual is the way to go on our first group meet. I am still hoping - both OOC and IC - that someone chimes in with an offer of transport and a safe place to go, even just for a place to huddle up and decide on some simple logistics. But if no one has that sort of set-up right now (understandable), I'd　like to try and set something up quickly....

Blitz

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Using the 1 success per 4 dice rule, I get two success thinking of a nearby, high-class hotel or restaurant that might have discreet conference rooms by the hour. I would then try to get on the phone and quickly arrange for a one-hour reservation to start within the next half-hour, for which I would be willing to pay Y200 (and if the going rate is more, I can always bargain them down!). If I can put this together with a simple call, I will put them on hold for just a couple of minutes to see if anyone offers a better solution. If not, I will be in a position to offer the use of the room, at which point I would reopen the line and make payment.
I can come up with details of the place or not, depending on your convenience.