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 Aug 9 2006, 08:06 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 26-July 06 From: Columbus, OH Member No.: 8,965  |
People talk about role-playing in these forums? :| |
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Aug 9 2006, 08:15 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
To drift back onto topic, I was thinking gaming. Heck under a poncho I could carry an Ingram. In rl over the winter I got rear ended and the cop who responded never even noticed the gun I was wearing. small and pretty he was unforgivably sloppy.
jeans and most women's cloths tend to be tighter fitting than guys'. The LBD makes a gun impossible, but jeans and suits tend to be too trim to wear in general. Squire sent me an add for something called "thunderwear" mens undershorts with a holster. I don't want to know if they come in panties. |
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Aug 9 2006, 08:18 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 111 Joined: 12-July 06 From: Redmond,UCAS Member No.: 8,876 |
Yeah, there was quite a rush for classes. I even taught a few myself. The Columbus area, as well as the Cincinatti area have plenty of instructors and classrooms, but until recently, the lands in between -- the Dayton area -- had very few. |
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Aug 9 2006, 08:18 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 26-July 06 From: Columbus, OH Member No.: 8,965 |
I cringe badly enough whenever I see someone tuck a gun into their waistband...but actual underwear with a holster? *Shudders* Oooooh no. |
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Aug 9 2006, 08:21 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 111 Joined: 12-July 06 From: Redmond,UCAS Member No.: 8,876 |
Real life methods work in-game. However, drifting back onto topic with you, I'd think skin pockets, and cyberlimb compartments make concealed-carry rather easy in the Awakened world, not to mention simple cyberweapons. |
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Aug 9 2006, 08:54 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
Drifting in and out of character makes it difficult to tell what, exactly, is being said. While a gun may not fit into a smaller cyberware compartment, you could concievably disassemble it and hide those bits away around your body, in compartments or just tucked in among your clothing. Small derringers could be built into almost anything... "pack of cigarettes," "pager," "commlink," or whatever you like. The Raecor Sting is an example of a small, deadly package made entirely out of composite parts... any device the size of, say, a small paperback could be made with noticeably more expensive (and smaller) custom parts, with a built-in holdout of that sort. Storing weapons on-site in advance, or moving them in seperate of your group has always been a perennial favorite of mine. Having a package (full of guns) shipped to the meeting you're infiltrating is classic ("Mr. Jacobs, this package just arrived." "Hey, Stan, let me get that for you." "Why, thank you, Mr. Anderson."). Stashing an automatic shotgun in a garment bag at the coat check is always amusing. An MG3 with the grip removed and the stock modified hides away in a fake steam pipe relatively well, and you can coil a few hundred rounds of ammunition up right behind it. Stashing a car in the parking lot you plan to exfiltrate through with an LMG or a grenade/rocket launcher in the trunk can make your exit a lot louder, but a lot more likely to succeed. Bribing someone on the security staff of the location you're headed to (yay, contacts! "Hey, Jimmy... pour me another. You know anyone who works security at the Mitsuhama building across the street? He like his job? You got his number?") to stash a gun on-site or just to ignore what he sees on the screen when you walk past the MAD works, too. Monowire weapons can be concealed in nearly anything, if you build them right. A couple of thumbloops with a spool in one of them aren't very big, and give you one of the nastier close-combat weapons of the 2070s in something you could keep in the sole of a shoe. I thought up a weapon a while ago that looks like a flashlight... except that the cylinder has a gas canister in addition to batteries. You flip off the safety and slam the flashlight facefirst into a wall, and it fires a dart in each direction, spooling 3 meters of monowire between them. The darts embed themselves in the wall, and you've got an instant mono-tripwire behind you. Then there's all the fun that can be had with "water bottles" full of the chemicals of your choice, or bi-chemical agents stashed away in hip flasks, perfume bottles, and cigarette cases. Chemsniffers can be an issue for these, but there's ways around those, too... sealed, sterilized "marbles" full of the agent you're bringing with you could be carried in your pockets, built into clothing, or even swapped in as truly amusing cybereyes (although you might want to keep at least one working eye, so you can see). |
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Aug 9 2006, 09:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
Thunderwear are actually pretty impressive in terms of concealabillity. I work in an office enviroment where I am sitting down most of the day, but as an IT guy, I am moving about and driving to remote sites constantly. This includes doing things like crawling under desks, which are generally not very condusive to concealing a weapon. Complicating matters is out strict buisiness casual dress code, and the wonderful Florida heat, so this severely limits my carry options. On top of that, my employer doesn't have a specific weapons policy, so rather than ask the HR dept how they feel about my .45, I go the "out of sight out of mind" route(I am licensed to carry BTW). I carry a Baby Eagle in .45acp, not a small pistol, in thunderware, and the only thing Ive ever noticed is a small rise to the left of my crotch where the butt of the grip sits just below my belt. By wearing appropriatly sized khaki's and a good belt, I've never been made carrying. The only downside to this rig is that it looks like your grabbing your crotch when you draw. |
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Aug 9 2006, 09:27 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
HullBreach, have you been lurking and just registered to post this, or are you new today? Either way, welcome to Dumpshock :cool:
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Aug 9 2006, 09:30 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
Just occured to me, a while back a Law Enforcement freind of mine and I were discussing carrying concealed, and he told me that a common consensus amoung cops is that if its tucked in a waist-band, it probably isn't legal, but if its in a holster it more than likely is.
The simple point is that most criminals do not plan ahead enough to purchase a holster, or even good ammunition. My LE buddy tells me that most of the pieces they recover are loaded with FMJ ball ammo, which is cheap and great for the range, but nowhere near as effective as even basic defensive ammo (lets not even get into the good stuff like Ranger SXT's or Federal Bonded HST's). The point is, if someone has invested the time and money into carrying properly, its usually legal. |
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Aug 9 2006, 09:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
Ive been playing SR since second edition, and actually discovered it when I was about 14 years old. Im 28 now, and believe it or not this is my first time to the site. BTW if you guys are interested, I have some great house rules on a variety of subjects that are literally 14 years in the making that I'd love to share! |
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Aug 9 2006, 09:39 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,430 Joined: 10-January 05 From: Fort Worth, Texas Member No.: 6,957 |
Toss 'em out! Keep in mind that DS is not a friendly place sometimes, so you can expect at least one cranky bastard to try and tear apart anything you post.
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Aug 9 2006, 09:48 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
You can throw 'em up in a big post of their own, or you could seed them in among the convesations as they happen, your choice. Hope you enjoy it around here :)
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Aug 9 2006, 09:59 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Now, I know that this is extremely cheesy but someone has to ask, "Is that a gun in your underpants, or are you just happy to see me?" :P How easy is it to draw with a belt on? It almost sounds like you'd have to go through your fly. |
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Aug 9 2006, 10:05 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,026 Joined: 23-November 05 From: Seattle (Really!) Member No.: 7,996 |
Yeah it happens sometimes :grinbig: |
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Aug 9 2006, 10:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 120 Joined: 3-May 04 Member No.: 6,298 |
Thunderwear should properly be used with tearaway pants, so that the pants can be ripped off in one smooth motion with the left hand while the right draws the weapon (or vice-versa for lefties). |
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Aug 10 2006, 02:14 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
Well, Im not quite as fit and firm around the middle as I once was, so its not too bad. I carry a Baby Eagle in .45 (think Israeli Jericho, Spikes gun from cowboy bebop) which has a VERY firm manual safety, so this carry style works for me and is safe. If my weapon of choice were a Glock or say a Springfield XD (neither of which have manual safeties) I would find another way. By the way, when in my real-world (i.e. not at work) attire, I use a shoulder holster and carry a combat knife (with a very flat profile) in a sheath between my shoulderblades, as well as 2 spare magazines for the pistol. If you havent guessed it yet, I believe in being prepared, and my time in the Marines has taught me that the well armed are rarely ill-prepared. Funny thing is, I'm a really amniable and nice person, and I get along with almost everybody I meet. |
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Aug 10 2006, 02:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 8,717 |
Good to hear. I know a guy strapped like you except he's a complete social retard and I'm sure dangerous to boot. Too bad the other guys in my gaming group are too pussy to kick him out.
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Aug 10 2006, 03:13 AM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
IDK who's seen it, but in "Bowling for Columbine" they have a clip of some 15-16 year old kid in jeans and a t shirt. looks normal, until he pulls out a sawed-off 12 gauge, 3-4 handguns and an ingram, all from his clothing. now, he wasn't carrying anything BUT the guns (no ammo, duh) and I doubt he'd be able to walk/run normally. but it was just an example. ah, here it is on google video except it was EIGHT handguns, a sawed shotty, and an ingram. no ammo. |
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Aug 10 2006, 03:36 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
you go grocery shopping in Mogadishu or something? Prepared is one thing but do you actually think you're gonna need all that? |
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Aug 10 2006, 04:15 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 |
And that's why you should do your shopping in the men's section (or at least steal clothes from an SO if you can). In fact, I recommend that all women wear men's clothing, especially men's pants. Because men's pants are so much more generous in the crotch, it's easier to find a good fit - no more muffin tops! As for the concealed weaponry...I got nothing. I'm a very sheltered child. :D |
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Aug 10 2006, 04:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
Im an IT guy by trade, but I occaisionally help out some friends involved in high-risk activities like private investigation and skip tracing. You don't make a lot of freindly acquiantences doing that. Also, I drive a nice car with a reputation for being a chop-shop favorite. |
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Aug 10 2006, 04:40 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
No, he wouldn't be able to move without jingling like Santa's sleigh and there is no way in heck that he'd be able to bend his knees. Really, it is mostly just propaganda to support dress codes. Even if he had only one gun there's no way a teacher would be able to fondle his genitals without noticing. Actually, that may be a problem with thunderware. Can random people who fondle your genitals without warning for no apparent reason notice the weapon in the thunderware holster? The company that made that video probably sales uniforms. The big uniform companies like to use distorted half truths because the best defenses against concealed weapons, mandatory nudity and casual sexual fondling, are free. |
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Aug 10 2006, 04:52 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
Next time someone randomly fondles my junk I'll make sure to ask them if my large frame big-bore automatic pistol disturbed the process. LMAO! |
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Aug 10 2006, 05:09 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
2 karma for making the table laugh. |
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Aug 10 2006, 05:13 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
HAHAHAHAHAHA Sawed? That looked like a pretty unsawed pump-action shotgun to me. God, that... The shotgun is just hilarious. It's like watching a Looney Tunes cartoon. Or Nicholson's Joker when he shoots down the Batplane. Man, that is probably the funniest damn thing I've seen all day. |
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