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post Aug 11 2006, 12:36 PM
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Kham, I think.
And the pretty-boy orc was perhaps one of the models from the ads in NAGRL. There was also an orc butler in a tux in London Sourcebook, but he was still green and warty, I think.
I love to play orcs, I like the underdog-ness of them, and the fact that they are a budding culture of their own. Trolls actually come up more frequently than orcs among my players. Strange.
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post Aug 11 2006, 12:54 PM
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I like dwarves. Though my mental image of them has always been considerably different than what the SR art tends to convey. (heads that are normal-sized in proportion to their torsoes and don't look like variations on Gerard Depardieu with a bushy beard, legs that aren't as absurdly short, fingers that don't look like they're half as thick as they're long)

I actually like the D&D 3rd edition dwarves (Yeah, yeah. Boo, hiss... Shut up.:)), because instead of making them look like malformed humans, they actually made them look like a different species.
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post Aug 11 2006, 01:39 PM
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Streets of Blood had 3 main characters. One was a female ork. and I think the mage was an Elf.

And early book, I think it was called Changeling had a troll as the main character. A youth caught up in the early phases of goblinization and goes on to be a mob enforcer.
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post Aug 11 2006, 01:52 PM
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Streets of Blood had 3 main characters. One was a female ork. and I think the mage was an Elf.

And early book, I think it was called Changeling had a troll as the main character. A youth caught up in the early phases of goblinization and goes on to be a mob enforcer.

And one of the premiere metageneticists in the world, self taught.

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post Aug 11 2006, 01:57 PM
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IRC, Just Compensation feature a ork rigger/decker as the main character. Then, in Changeling, the main character is a very bright teenager Troll nicknamed "The Profezzur" who become hitman for the yak
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post Aug 11 2006, 02:59 PM
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Yeah. Orks started to become cool like a year or two ago.

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post Aug 11 2006, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE (JonathanC @ Aug 11 2006, 12:07 AM)
Seriously, none of the Shadowrun novels I've seen have metahumans in anything but a (usually forgettable) support role. The stars of the novels are always humans, for the most part. Elves get attention, at least, but what about orks and trolls? I loved the fiction at the start of SR3, narrated by the troll street sam who lost his good friend Flash on a botched run. I liked the ork in SR4 who just got out of prison and was re-introduced to the new, flashier matrix.

It's not a new book by any shot, but Never Deal With an Elf had one of the best orks I've ever ready about in it. Karm (I know, I'm misspelling his name horribly), who was a friend of Dodger, Ghost-Who-Walks-Inside, and Sally Tsung. Might be worth picking up sometime if you don't have it.

I think it's Never Trust an Elf, if I remember correctly. The ork's name was Kham, though.

It was the first SR book I ever owned.
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post Aug 11 2006, 03:15 PM
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Yep.
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post Aug 11 2006, 03:19 PM
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Yep.

The fourth for me, right after the Secrets of Power trilogy.
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post Aug 11 2006, 04:34 PM
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I would play any of the races in SR apart from dwarves, as I have no interest in playing a bearded stunty.

This is the more common line of thinking where I'm from. Humans and Elves are pretty common, but a handful of players stick with Orks and (especially) Trolls exclusively. Dwarves just get left behind and ignored... :(

BTW, I've always played that Orks look more like the Gunslinger Adept thsn the horrible goblins from the Hobbit animation and I like my Trolls looking more like the cover-character from Runner Havens than the Trolls from the old Laubenstein artwork. All of the races deserve to look cool, so I'm hoping to see a cool looking Dwarf in the future - hopefully one that's clean-shaven.

Personally, I thought the Eco-Shaman from SR3 and the Face from SR4 were both cool looking dwarves. I also figured dwarves for being the perfect race for mage munchkins (especially in SR3) due to their Willpower and physical stat bonuses.
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post Aug 11 2006, 05:59 PM
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Us orks've always been th' shit. All'y'all breeders are jes figgerin' this out now? :ork
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post Aug 11 2006, 06:17 PM
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Us orks've always been th' shit. All'y'all breeders are jes figgerin' this out now? :ork

Kind of ironic for an ork to be calling humans "breeders", given how rapidly orks reproduce. :P
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post Aug 11 2006, 06:38 PM
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All the more reason for humans to join Humanis, all trogs are a threat to normal folks. ;-)
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post Aug 11 2006, 06:41 PM
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Seriously, none of the Shadowrun novels I've seen have metahumans in anything but a (usually forgettable) support role. The stars of the novels are always humans, for the most part. Elves get attention, at least, but what about orks and trolls? I loved the fiction at the start of SR3, narrated by the troll street sam who lost his good friend Flash on a botched run. I liked the ork in SR4 who just got out of prison and was re-introduced to the new, flashier matrix.

And while I'm on the subject, how come so many of the illustrations make them look like such retards? I mean, the Mercenary illustration from SR3 is cool, as are the Bounty Hunter and Enforcer from SR4, but half of the troll and ork pictures I see just look like a mass of boils and warts. And the art from the original SR book just made them look even worse. The description just says that Trolls have hard, bony deposits...that could mean anything from scale-like skin texture to, well, bony looking boils and warts. But orks are just described as being taller and heavier than humans...nothing saying they have to look like a burn ward got mashed together into one person. What gives? :P

Changelling had the Profezzor (troll), Never Thrust an Elf had Kham (ork), Preying For Keeps and Headhunters had Duran (ork) and Elvis (troll), The Lucifer Deck had an ork girl (I think), etc... Those were great characters, specially Duran and Kham. I know I'm forgitten a lot more...

And the Gun Adept of SR4 has the Look Human Quality.

The only metatype I don't play is the dwarfs. I don't like Snow White and all that...
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post Aug 11 2006, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE (Chrome Shadow)
QUOTE (JonathanC @ Aug 11 2006, 12:07 AM)
Seriously, none of the Shadowrun novels I've seen have metahumans in anything but a (usually forgettable) support role. The stars of the novels are always humans, for the most part. Elves get attention, at least, but what about orks and trolls? I loved the fiction at the start of SR3, narrated by the troll street sam who lost his good friend Flash on a botched run. I liked the ork in SR4 who just got out of prison and was re-introduced to the new, flashier matrix.

And while I'm on the subject, how come so many of the illustrations make them look like such retards? I mean, the Mercenary illustration from SR3 is cool, as are the Bounty Hunter and Enforcer from SR4, but half of the troll and ork pictures I see just look like a mass of boils and warts. And the art from the original SR book just made them look even worse. The description just says that Trolls have hard, bony deposits...that could mean anything from scale-like skin texture to, well, bony looking boils and warts. But orks are just described as being taller and heavier than humans...nothing saying they have to look like a burn ward got mashed together into one person. What gives?  :P

Changelling had the Profezzor (troll), Never Thrust an Elf had Kham (ork), Preying For Keeps and Headhunters had Duran (ork) and Elvis (troll), The Lucifer Deck had an ork girl (I think), etc... Those were great characters, specially Duran and Kham. I know I'm forgitten a lot more...

And the Gun Adept of SR4 has the Look Human Quality.

The only metatype I don't play is the dwarfs. I don't like Snow White and all that...

No, the Gungslinger Adept does not have the Human Looking quality. I have the more recent printing of the book, and I also checked the errata. Not in there. :)
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post Aug 11 2006, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE (Chrome Shadow @ Aug 11 2006, 11:41 AM)
Never Thrust an Elf had Kham (ork),

But, but... so much of SR canon makes that title counterintuitive... :ork
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post Aug 11 2006, 07:31 PM
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Heh, you said "thrust!"
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post Aug 11 2006, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE (Adarael @ Aug 11 2006, 03:37 AM)
One of the 1st or 2nd edition books had a color picture of an ork in it which totally managed to convey 'pretty boy ork' with 100% perfect clarity. I've been looking for the picture ever since, because he was just a dashing guy. Anybody know where to find this guy?
(And no, it wasn't Junior from Dreamchipper, but he's a close second.)


I think that was from the 2E Contacts, it was a new archetype, Ork Bodyguard?

If it's the one you're thinking of, he had long, straight hair, a suit, and small tusks with very little else of the typical ork features.
It was a b/w pic though, I don't remember a color one.
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post Aug 11 2006, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (JonathanC @ Aug 11 2006, 12:07 AM)
Seriously, none of the Shadowrun novels I've seen have metahumans in anything but a (usually forgettable) support role. The stars of the novels are always humans, for the most part. Elves get attention, at least, but what about orks and trolls? I loved the fiction at the start of SR3, narrated by the troll street sam who lost his good friend Flash on a botched run. I liked the ork in SR4 who just got out of prison and was re-introduced to the new, flashier matrix.

And while I'm on the subject, how come so many of the illustrations make them look like such retards? I mean, the Mercenary illustration from SR3 is cool, as are the Bounty Hunter and Enforcer from SR4, but half of the troll and ork pictures I see just look like a mass of boils and warts. And the art from the original SR book just made them look even worse. The description just says that Trolls have hard, bony deposits...that could mean anything from scale-like skin texture to, well, bony looking boils and warts. But orks are just described as being taller and heavier than humans...nothing saying they have to look like a burn ward got mashed together into one person. What gives?  :P

Changelling had the Profezzor (troll), Never Thrust an Elf had Kham (ork), Preying For Keeps and Headhunters had Duran (ork) and Elvis (troll), The Lucifer Deck had an ork girl (I think), etc... Those were great characters, specially Duran and Kham. I know I'm forgitten a lot more...

And the Gun Adept of SR4 has the Look Human Quality.

The only metatype I don't play is the dwarfs. I don't like Snow White and all that...

I'm just saying, I haven't read an SR novel (or seen one, personally) where a non-human was the main, starring character. Apparently they do exist, but in general they tend to fill out the supporting cast, even if they are pretty cool (horrible name aside, I thought G-Dogg seemed cool in the recent Kenson books). I'd just like to see more SR fiction from the ork/troll/dwarf point of view.
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post Aug 11 2006, 09:25 PM
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In general, ork chicks are hot. It's the tusks. There's just something about a chick with tusks. Trolls could be pretty sexy, too. They've got tusks and horns. Calcium deposits in the dermis can be sexy, too. The only problem is that I've never seen an official image of an sexy troll woman with feminine horns and sexy dermal deposits. Now, there was that one piece of Earthdawn fanart posted a while back, but I don't think that would count.
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post Aug 11 2006, 10:24 PM
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In general, ork chicks are hot. It's the tusks. There's just something about a chick with tusks.

Yeah, who doesn't want a woman who drools?
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post Aug 11 2006, 10:48 PM
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Yeah, who doesn't want a woman who drools?

a horny woman who drools, even better :-)
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post Aug 11 2006, 10:55 PM
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Drool is nature's lubricant. :D
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post Aug 11 2006, 10:56 PM
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What about dwarf ladies then? They're the right height. *insert rimshot*
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post Aug 12 2006, 12:09 AM
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Ork chicks look relatively hot because it's RPG art. There's a rule written somewhere that every female in every RPG picture is absolutely smokin' as a default.
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