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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 17-March 05 Member No.: 7,183 ![]() |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 ![]() |
LOL thats pretty wild!
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,010 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
His site's down.
~J |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 16-August 03 Member No.: 5,501 ![]() |
Hmm. The begining of FFBA...
and the site is up again. |
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Manus Celer Dei ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,010 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 ![]() |
Not where I am. Google cache doesn't have anything either--what is it like?
(Just in case, note that I'm talking about Mr. Caballero's site, not the linked article) ~J |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 8-May 06 Member No.: 8,533 ![]() |
It's about bullet-proof clothing. As in, the kind of clothing you can wear around the house or to a social function.
Edit: From what I see, he doesn't have a website. I've got nothing. But, I have the flaw of incompetence (search engines). |
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Creating a god with his own hands ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 ![]() |
those thing won't stop much. I garuntee you that.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 8,717 ![]() |
It's about tricking suckers into buying that crap. Bravo to the company that can sell them.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 8-May 06 Member No.: 8,533 ![]() |
Well, the best part is the fact that you can easily buy a gun that shoots through it. I can imagine some idiot buying those clothes and attempting to rob a bank.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 8,717 ![]() |
:rotfl:
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438 ![]() |
How big a gun would it take to pierce this armor? It seems to me that this clothing is primarily intended not to protect one from BFGs, but rather to protect one from pistols and other handguns. Handguns may deal less damage, but they're the most common type of firearm used by criminals according to this report from the U.S. Justice Department. Some of their findings:
This suggests to me that, when criminals are picking out their firearms, they tend to go for the smaller-sized ones. Now, I'm far from a weapons expert, so I could very easily be wrong, but I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that this bulletproof clothing is sufficient to protect one from handgun fire (we know that the coat is at least strong enough to stop a revolver bullet) - and AFAIK, this will be enough to protect today's corporate wageslaves from the kind of gunfire they are likely to encounter. Note that these clothes are being marketed to corporate wageslaves, not to soldiers, gangers, shadowrunners, or other non-white collar types. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 8,717 ![]() |
Exactly, the suckers :D
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 777 Joined: 18-February 03 Member No.: 4,110 ![]() |
yeah, because who wants a dental plan and a steady paycheck. also being able to form healthy, stable, long lasting relationships is for lamers am i rite?!?!1 :D jk, of course. after all, who has healthy and stable relationships anymore! :( ever since I broke up with my gf it's hard to look at a woman without seeing the evil :( on a more relevant note; it's interesting to see the market open up in this direction, though. mainstreaming these sorts of products is a sign of a different mindset on the part of society... these products may not be zomg supar31337, but give time to develope, they may become viable. |
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Great Dragon ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 ![]() |
It is most likely NIJ level III-A armor, so any high velocity rounds will do -- FN P90/HK MP7 -like weapons, any rifles, or any sort of armor piercing ammunition will go right through. Or you can just shoot him in the groin, legs, arms or head. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 168 Joined: 6-August 06 Member No.: 9,033 ![]() |
Or if you know he is wearing bullet proof clothing you could just use a knife, it wont stop that, of corse then you have to get close. But hey, if people want to buy it let them. Fewer fools on earth, ;) Just kidding!
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Prime Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 ![]() |
Or just go right at the stuff with a heavy pistol round and let the kenetic energy break ribs.
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Target ![]() Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 17-March 05 Member No.: 7,183 ![]() |
You can get versions of the clothes made to stop knives as well. So buy a long coat with level III-A and an undershirt with stab protection and you'll be protected from everything up to an UZI. The undershirt might even decrease the chance of broken ribs.
Here is the clothing website for those that havn't found it already. |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 8-May 06 Member No.: 8,533 ![]() |
So, basically, you're still royally fucked when someone pulls out a .45
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Immortal Elf ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 ![]() |
eh? no. unless i'm mistaken, any vest that will stop a 9mm (small and fast, ergo more likely to pierce something) is going to stop a .45 (big and slow, ergo less likely to pierce something). broken ribs are another matter--albeit one you're likely to survive, all else being equal.
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Horror ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 ![]() |
And when he thinks he just put you down with one shot, and he comes over to rifle your pocket, you put your .45 colt in his face and send him a couple rounds of hollowpoint loving.
Of course, preferably you would have shot him before he shot you, but as long as you live to see tomorrow's sunrise and he dosen't, s'all good. Failing that, as long as you live to see tomorrow's sunrise.... |
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 8-May 06 Member No.: 8,533 ![]() |
Actually, no. Type II protects against 9mm, but doesn't stop a .45. Keep in mind that, in the testing they did in the article, the pistol was a .38. Now, looking at their catalogue, I can say that the clothes will be useful against a .45, and will definitely be useful for robbing a bank with (up until the guys with rifles arrive). |
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ghostrider ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 ![]() |
Pretty cool.
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Neophyte Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,156 Joined: 15-March 03 From: Fresno, CalFree Member No.: 4,252 ![]() |
Right. It won't stand up to continued assault from every gun firing every type of round known to man, so obviously its completely useless. |
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Runner ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,066 Joined: 5-February 03 Member No.: 4,017 ![]() |
Some people won't be happy until they get a Hampster Ball of Invincibility™ and can go rolling through town with no care about how many RPGs are fired at them.
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Moving Target ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 8-May 06 Member No.: 8,533 ![]() |
Well, you can actually do that now. You just need a lot of titanium and a really large hill.
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