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Samaels Ghost View Member Profile	Aug 27 2006, 05:09 AM Post #76
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 8,717	That's why I was attempting to pass the buck to lilith. About the drones that is. If she can convince him that we do need planning money then we can work from there. If we come up with a way to complete the run without spending the planning budget then we all get a bonus :D And I can contribute five negoiating dice too. Or we can use the "Opposed test vs a group" rules (pg. 58) and just get a straight +5 dice. That might not be as much as we would get using teamwork, but it seems more realistic. We don't know each other very well and probably can't take each other's cues and work together that well. It cuts down on rolling too, which is a plus It's up to GEM, of course.

silentmaster101 View Member Profile	Aug 27 2006, 05:44 AM Post #77
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 11-July 06 Member No.: 8,863	Garrett's negotiation involves bullets so no help there:-(

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Aug 27 2006, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE (Samaels Ghost)

For later arguments: Drones are much more useful than exposing ourselves by breaking in or causing distractions. We don't get caught or seen if a drone is nabbed.

I specialize in housebreaking! What am I gonna do, sit in the car and mope? :P

But seriously, do drones have fine motor coordination like humans do? For example, could a drone cut a hole in a glass window or panel without letting the glass fall and shatter? Seems like an extremely tricky operation for a drone, but a relatively simple one for a human, who could just catch the cut-out glass with his or her free hand. Plus, I understand that drones don't often have the intuitive reasoning to adjust quickly to new and unexpected hurdles. For these reasons, I feel that drones are probably best used as a supplement to a human infiltrator's efforts; they could perform reconnaissance, or perhaps be used as backup if things get hairy.

Oh yeah, and I doubt that just sending in the drones would remove all of the risk of getting caught. Jill would probably control the drones from the getaway vehicle situated just outside the house, right? If you noticed a strange drone in your home, then looked out the window to see an unmarked van parked across the street, wouldn't you put two and two together? ;)

EDIT: Oh yeah, the times. I usually have the time to do extensive writing during the late hours evening (or the wee hours of the morning) here in Chicago. However, I am going back to college on Thursday, the 7th of September, and don't see myself posting very extensively then. After that, I'll probably be available earlier in the evening, but I won't be able to say for certain until I settle into my daily routine.

LilithTaveril View Member Profile	Aug 27 2006, 11:47 AM Post #79
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 8-May 06 Member No.: 8,533	Nope. Jill would park the next block over. Sorry about my delay in posting. Storm issues. Last I checked, some drones were capable of surgery. I may be wrong. But, yeah, using a drone would be more interesting... If Jill had the drones for it, of course.

Green Eyed Monst... Green Eyed Monster View Member Profile	Aug 27 2006, 05:33 PM Post #80
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 226 Joined: 5-April 03 Member No.: 4,388	By all means, keep asking questions. They keep giving me ideas of things I overlooked adding. :evil:

Mekalus View Member Profile	Aug 28 2006, 05:22 AM Post #81
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: 28-August 04 Member No.: 6,609	Sheesh ok I suggest all the players start PMing each other so our GEM has less of a leg up on us. :eek: Just kidding. In case anyone is wondering about my IC post Slyph has the Astral Chameleon and Blandness traits as well as melanin control and facial sculpt. He is built for B&E and not being remembered. I liked the direct blowing a hole in the wall approach post. :D Good stuff.

silentmaster101 View Member Profile	Aug 28 2006, 05:29 AM Post #82
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 11-July 06 Member No.: 8,863	eh sometimes it works, sometimes it brings down security on you. i am all for simple plans, but any simple plan still needs a few critical parts, and a backup plan. first things first, gather info!

FanGirl View Member Profile	Aug 28 2006, 05:59 AM Post #83
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438	I just want to make it clear that Judith agrees with the importance of getting info. It's just that Johnson was all condescending and nasty and she wanted him to leave ASAP. See, Judith was surpressing the urge to grab him by his shirt collar from across the table and loudly denounce him as an arrogant son of a bitch, and she knew that that would have been a dealbreaker, so she wanted to remove the risk of that happening. :D

Mekalus View Member Profile	Aug 28 2006, 06:46 AM Post #84
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 115 Joined: 28-August 04 Member No.: 6,609	Cant say as I blame you. I was tempted to thrash him myself but then I remembered how broke Slyph is heh.

Samaels Ghost View Member Profile	Aug 28 2006, 07:32 AM Post #85
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 8,717	For GEM [ Spoiler ] These are the rolls I intend to make. I'm not sure exactly how you want this done soooo... -Public search for street info, where the creek leads, and anything I can find on the owner's house layout. I'll hack if needed. -I'm searching for any info regarding the occupants of the surrounding houses, with particular interest in abbandoned buildings or apartments not currently being rented. This is for setting up sniper/watchman. -I'm also trying to locate the Matrix location of this house's network. I wanna get into his system a little later, not right now. Just wanna know what is possible via the matrix while we're still planning.

LilithTaveril View Member Profile	Aug 28 2006, 12:41 PM Post #86
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 8-May 06 Member No.: 8,533	I wonder: Could we have simply killed him, hacked his accounts, and took the money by force? I think I just came up with Plan F.

silentmaster101 View Member Profile	Aug 28 2006, 04:44 PM Post #87
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 11-July 06 Member No.: 8,863	thats generally bad for reputation, but if say he tries to grease us then maybe its worth it.

Samaels Ghost View Member Profile	Aug 28 2006, 06:27 PM Post #88
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 984 Joined: 15-June 06 Member No.: 8,717	Doubt he will. This is a milk run

LilithTaveril View Member Profile	Aug 28 2006, 09:51 PM Post #89
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 8-May 06 Member No.: 8,533	Last time I played a milk run, it was the first step in a bug spirit conspiracy to take over Seattle and ended with a three-way battle between a mob of runners and go-gangers, spirit-possessed Lone Star employees, and the UCAS military. You'll have to excuse me if I'm a little paranoid.

silentmaster101 View Member Profile	Aug 28 2006, 10:25 PM Post #90
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 11-July 06 Member No.: 8,863	eh me too. whcih is why i'd like to go shopping a bit. [ Spoiler ] Make an availability test for garrett for clips of apds rounds, which is 42x1 rounds for the rifle, and 15x2 for the pistol. 72 rounds total, so default to 80 rounds, im willing to pay 200% for them adding 4 dice to my pool, so 3+4+ aditional 6 for my contact sting to look for them. Thats :nuyen: 540 for the bullets against a threshold of 16, with an availability of one day. also i would like to get 6 fragmantation mini-grenades, same test at %200 price, so 3+4+6 for the contact against an avaibability of 10f. price is 420 for them. availability still one day. same goes for 6 high explosive mini-grenades, %200 price, 3+4+6 against 7f. price is 540 for them. availability one day. and last 6 thermal smoke mini-grenades, %150 price, 3+2+6against 6r. price is 315 for them. same availability. total price would be 540+420+540+315=:nuyen:1815

FanGirl View Member Profile	Aug 29 2006, 12:36 AM Post #91
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 684 Joined: 8-April 06 From: My dorm room Member No.: 8,438	Ugh, I think I got my mom's cold, and I'm going to have to get up early tomorrow to go see my shrink. I won't be able to type up anything substantial tonight, so just assume that Judith tacitly approves of whatever the rest of the characters decide tonight.

silentmaster101 View Member Profile	Aug 29 2006, 03:24 PM Post #92
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 11-July 06 Member No.: 8,863	Now what type of test do i have to do to use my contact to aquire a low-middle class place for a week? im assuming that the available funds will be 200 from each other member in the group plus 500 from me. Total would be 1500 if everyone gives 200, which is really enough to rent a middle class place for half a month. But pass back any money not spent divided evenly among all teammembers please. [ Spoiler ] I would like to use Sting again for that test. My total funds remaining would be 2000 from my advance fee, and 185 left from my starting money, leaving me at :nuyen: 2185. total expendeture it 1815 for supplies and 500 for the safe-house. It may seem like he is spending alot of money, but Garrett knows the value of loyalty and how much developing new friends, especially friends in the shadows can really help out later.

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Aug 30 2006, 04:01 AM

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QUOTE (Samaels Ghost)

For GEM

[ Spoiler ]

Remember, the back room at Matchsticks is cut off from the matrix either with a Faraday cage or the special paint. The creek is little more than a ditch to collect runoff and eventually leads to a storm drain. I'm sorry if I made it sound navigable in my description. To clarify, the hill is about 1000 feet in elevation, it is not shear, but would difinitely need hands available to scale. It is covered with brush, a few trees, many fallen tree trunks, and grass/weeds.

The hill is also several homes view out their front window as things are lined up as target house, target house detached garage, hill obscuring view of target house, creek/ditch, street, homes, backyard fence, homes, street ... (heading up another much gentler slope.) On a right to left basis, the pattern looks like a home, a buffer of vegetation (trees, hedges/bushes), a home, that homes drive leading to a garage, the next homes drive leading to its garage, a buffer of vegetation. Most homes are like the target's, and have several steps leading up to a front porch as the homes are built on a slope that is higher in back than in front.

The houses in the neighborhood were built in the late nineteenth/ early twentieth century. It is doubtful anything is going to be found after 150 years and 2 major crashes.

By doing a simple search (when you get where you are able to do one) of phone records and surrounding addresses, it looks like the immediate vicinity is fully occupied.

It should not be difficult finding matrix location.

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Aug 30 2006, 04:18 AM

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QUOTE (silentmaster101)

eh me too. whcih is why i'd like to go shopping a bit.

Make an availability test for garrett for clips of apds rounds, which is 42x1 rounds for the rifle, and 15x2 for the pistol.
72 rounds total, so default to 80 rounds, im willing to pay 200% for them adding 4 dice to my pool, so 3+4+ aditional 6 for my contact sting to look for them.
Thats :nuyen: 540 for the bullets against a threshold of 16, with an availability of one day.

What about the test to contact Sting, he's a busy guy? :(

17 07 05 05 05 04 04 03 03 03 02 02 01 = 5 hits
13 09 05 05 05 04 04 03 02 01 01 01 01 = 5 hits
08 08 05 05 05 05 04 04 03 03 03 02 01 = 6 hits

also i would like to get 6 fragmantation mini-grenades, same test at %200 price, so 3+4+6 for the contact against an avaibability of 10f. price is 420 for them. availability still one day.

11 05 04 04 03 03 03 02 02 02 02 01 01 = 2 hits
11 08 05 05 03 03 02 02 01 01 01 01 01 = 4 hits
05 05 05 05 05 03 03 03 03 02 02 01 01 = 5 hits

same goes for 6 high explosive mini-grenades, %200 price, 3+4+6 against 7f. price is 540 for them. availability one day.

09 07 05 05 04 02 02 02 02 01 01 01 01 = 4 hits
05 04 04 03 03 02 02 02 02 02 02 02 01 = 1 hit
11 08 05 05 05 05 05 04 04 04 04 02 01 = 7 hits

Looks like at least a 3 day wait for everything.

silentmaster101 View Member Profile	Aug 30 2006, 04:23 AM Post #95
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 113 Joined: 11-July 06 Member No.: 8,863	ok, and oh sting is a female, leader of the ancients, forgot that part haha, used data from the seatle sourcebook from back in version 3, but all non-numerical data from that book is still pretty good fleshing out info. and the three day wait isnt a big deal, nothing is recon critical, assuming we arent going to do the run for three days.

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Aug 30 2006, 04:25 AM

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QUOTE (Green Eyed Monster @ Aug 29 2006, 11:01 PM)

QUOTE (Samaels Ghost @ Aug 28 2006, 03:32 AM)

For GEM

[ Spoiler ]

Remember, the back room at Matchsticks is cut off from the matrix either with a Faraday cage or the special paint. The creek is little more than a ditch to collect runoff and eventually leads to a storm drain. I'm sorry if I made it sound navigable in my description. To clarify, the hill is about 1000 feet in elevation, it is not shear, but would difinitely need hands available to scale. It is covered with brush, a few trees, many fallen tree trunks, and grass/weeds.

The hill is also several homes view out their front window as things are lined up as target house, target house detached garage, hill obscuring view of target house, creek/ditch, street, homes, backyard fence, homes, street ... (heading up another much gentler slope.) On a right to left basis, the pattern looks like a home, a buffer of vegetation (trees, hedges/bushes), a home, that homes drive leading to a garage, the next homes drive leading to its garage, a buffer of vegetation. Most homes are like the target's, and have several steps leading up to a front porch as the homes are built on a slope that is higher in back than in front.

The houses in the neighborhood were built in the late nineteenth/ early twentieth century. It is doubtful anything is going to be found after 150 years and 2 major crashes.

By doing a simple search (when you get where you are able to do one) of phone records and surrounding addresses, it looks like the immediate vicinity is fully occupied.

It should not be difficult finding matrix location.

when i talked about going into the ditch to get to the place i had crawling along the side, and then scaling the incline to come in with low-visibility, where a slow approach is less noticable.

however i dont know if thats the kind of stuff he had in mind as well.

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Aug 30 2006, 04:36 AM

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Now what type of test do i have to do to use my contact to aquire a low-middle class place for a week? im assuming that the available funds will be 200 from each other member in the group plus 500 from me. Total would be 1500 if everyone gives 200, which is really enough to rent a middle class place for half a month. But pass back any money not spent divided evenly among all teammembers please.

[ Spoiler ]

It may seem like he is spending alot of money, but Garrett knows the value of loyalty and how much developing new friends, especially friends in the shadows can really help out later.

A relative of one of the gang members has a garage or basement (your choice) they will rent that is a mere 10 blocks from the target (by a circuitous route.) Both have water and electricity as well as powder room w/shower type bath. They include second hand refrigerator and microwave for "kitchen".

If you want something else, please let me know more what you are looking for. What part of Seattle? (I was assuming you were asking for either downtown - where Matchsticks is, or near target - Queen Anne Hill.)

Just going through some want ads will probably disclose some homes for rent in Queen Anne Hill. With it being an old neighborhood, there will no doubt be some fixer upper properties that could be rented that could be considered low-middle. There are also probably rooming houses available weekly, although this would mean splitting up the group as it is unlikely that there are accomodations for 6 in one "room". If you are lucky, maybe everyone can stay in same building.

LilithTaveril View Member Profile	Aug 30 2006, 06:53 AM Post #98
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 451 Joined: 8-May 06 Member No.: 8,533	Damn my writer's block. Just assume Jill forked over 200 :nuyen: and went along with everyone.

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Aug 30 2006, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE (Green Eyed Monster @ Aug 29 2006, 11:36 PM)

QUOTE (silentmaster101 @ Aug 29 2006, 11:24 AM)

Now what type of test do i have to do to use my contact to aquire a low-middle class place for a week? im assuming that the available funds will be 200 from each other member in the group plus 500 from me. Total would be 1500 if everyone gives 200, which is really enough to rent a middle class place for half a month. But pass back any money not spent divided evenly among all teammembers please.

[ Spoiler ]

It may seem like he is spending alot of money, but Garrett knows the value of loyalty and how much developing new friends, especially friends in the shadows can really help out later.

A relative of one of the gang members has a garage or basement (your choice) they will rent that is a mere 10 blocks from the target (by a circuitous route.) Both have water and electricity as well as powder room w/shower type bath. They include second hand refrigerator and microwave for "kitchen".

If you want something else, please let me know more what you are looking for. What part of Seattle? (I was assuming you were asking for either downtown - where Matchsticks is, or near target - Queen Anne Hill.)

Just going through some want ads will probably disclose some homes for rent in Queen Anne Hill. With it being an old neighborhood, there will no doubt be some fixer upper properties that could be rented that could be considered low-middle. There are also probably rooming houses available weekly, although this would mean splitting up the group as it is unlikely that there are accomodations for 6 in one "room". If you are lucky, maybe everyone can stay in same building.

i was thinking something downtown, so we have a place to hide out for a day or two until the dropoff, someplace not too far from the target, but not too close as to have out vehicles recognized quickly. In other words, that place will do just nicely.

Mekalus View Member Profile	Sep 1 2006, 04:58 AM Post #100
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