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 Sep 15 2006, 03:34 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 160 Joined: 16-August 03 Member No.: 5,501  |
This is a point of curiosity, which has been brought to the surface by the thread on the recent events in Quebec.
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Sep 15 2006, 03:47 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,901 Joined: 19-June 03 Member No.: 4,775 |
Present day fiction or 2060s technology? For that matter, doing what?
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Sep 15 2006, 04:38 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
SR? All of the above.
RL? While we'll go off on that subject at the drop of a hat, posting new threads about it is really poor form. What I practice, though, is a semiconcealed pocketknife. ~J |
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Sep 15 2006, 05:03 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,479 Joined: 6-May 05 From: Idaho Member No.: 7,377 |
You forgot to put "Can o' whoopass" on that list.
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Sep 15 2006, 05:56 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 934 Joined: 26-August 05 From: Earth - Europe - AGS - Norddeutscher Bund - Hannover Member No.: 7,624 |
None. I am not wearing any weapon or body armor. Does a leatherman count? :D
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Sep 15 2006, 07:20 AM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
No reason to not carry body armor - as normal articles of clothing can be armored in SR4.
Weapons are also standart for anyone who is neither mage nor combat adept. We do not live in the safest areas of civilisation, and handguns can be licenced. RL? Neither weapon nor armor. Best self defense is a 400m dash. |
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Sep 15 2006, 09:03 AM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Black Belt in Mouth-Fu. |
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Sep 15 2006, 02:13 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I can't vote because the question hasn't been clarified.
In RL: Illegal to carry firearms around (grrr...) and not in the mood for a flak jacket, so neither, unfortunately. If I had the option, I'd carry a handgun. In SR: The scepter of GMness and the armor of the Holy Rulebook |
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Sep 15 2006, 02:19 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Good point. see my older thread about conceal carry under women's clothing. RL I have a permit and carry. In SR ditto and usually wear a lined coat or armored jacket- I find the term "body armor" odd- you mean openly? A secon skin hides under anything, we go from there to dusters with ceramic plates and ballistic cloth up to powered suits.
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Sep 15 2006, 02:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 8-November 05 From: Toronto, Ontario - Canada Member No.: 7,934 |
I'm sick and tired of repeating this. YOU DON'T NEED A GUN TO BE ARMED. There are several self defense items which I like to carry around, including a couple of knives, a spray can of some very nasty hot sauce, and a telescoping baton (not at the same time, that would be excessive). I don't know anyone who wears body armour as part of thier civilian attire, and I certainly don't know any people who illegaly carry firearms around.
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Sep 15 2006, 02:38 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
god made man, Samual Colt made (wo)men equal.
I'm 5' 1" and have been unsuccessfully mugged three times. I'd rather hold them off outside of arm range just incase I find a thug with better skills than mine. |
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Sep 15 2006, 02:51 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
You do if the other guy's got a gun. |
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Sep 15 2006, 03:01 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
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Sep 15 2006, 03:07 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
Here in germany those few who carry weapons (guns and larger knives alike) are few to the point of being suspicious (some urban areas excepted, and even then it´s usually knives). Those who carry guns for illicit reasons can´t hide behind legal owners - not that many of those.
In Shadowrun, not being armed is even more stupid than not being armored. You DO go to all the wrong areas, AND you have enemies who are out to kill you. Both things wich should be wrong for most of us. Even runners don´t need to be armed if they go shopping in downtown seattle in broad daylight. |
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Sep 15 2006, 03:41 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I work in a federal building, so no knives of any reasonable length (and I'm not that crazy anyway), I think batons are questionable. I am shopping around for pepper spray for myself and my wife, but the question was who carries a gun, not who carries pepper punch. |
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Sep 15 2006, 03:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 8-November 05 From: Toronto, Ontario - Canada Member No.: 7,934 |
I don't really see why you would bring that defensive gear to work, especialy if you work in a government building, it seems excessive to me. Oh, and the fact that non-lethal defensive gear was omited was kind of the entire point of my post. |
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Sep 15 2006, 04:07 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I am interested in carrying a defensive device because there's a large expanse between my apartment and my office I like to call "the out of doors" where hooligans and riff-raff tend to congregate :P I take the metro to work, I spend a lot of time hanging out at bus stops and train stations, sometimes after dark, there was a rape across the hall in our complex and robberies aren't uncommon. Being a poor, grubby looking white male in good shape, I don't feel too threatened, but it's nice to have options. (Ah, so the initial comment is leveraged against the poll creator, not against me? I reacted only because your comment immediately followed mine.) |
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Sep 15 2006, 04:08 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
Carrying a handgun around, as comforting as it is, can be a pain in the ass.
Wearing body armor around is a *serious* pain in the ass. It's a goal of mine to have some decent body armor somewhere down the line, but at the moment I don't own any. I doubt I'd wear it regularly even if I did. So mark me down for "Firearm only." As for "don't need a gun to be armed..." Fair enough. You are, however, noticeably better armed with a gun. Even pepper spray only really works out to about 10 feet. |
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Sep 15 2006, 04:28 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Not if you throw the can *REALLY* hard.
But in that case I guess it's not really good as pepper spray. Maybe I should get a license for carrying concealed sharp rocks. |
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Sep 15 2006, 04:41 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,008 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
By the same token, guns really don't work so well within ten feet or so—it's too easy to take a hit anyway or worse yet have your gun controlled by the opponent. If you're going to carry a gun, carry a knife too and know which to use.
~J |
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Sep 15 2006, 05:28 PM
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Freelance Elf Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 7,324 Joined: 30-September 04 From: Texas Member No.: 6,714 |
Yes. No one has ever attacked federal buildings before. Or, God knows, accosted someone on his or her way to or from work. |
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Sep 15 2006, 05:50 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 8-November 05 From: Toronto, Ontario - Canada Member No.: 7,934 |
I don't care if someone, at some point in time, shot a co-worker in an office building, I'm still not going to smuggle a gun in to a cubicle. An office is still one of the safest environments to be in, and I don't feel the need to be armed whilst working. If the job is in a seedy area, then I might leave my weapon in my vehicle, or check it at the front desk of my workplace or something. My self defense items are for when I'm drinking or smoking pot in a public park at 2 am, not for when I'm working or schooling. |
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Sep 15 2006, 06:04 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 358 Joined: 12-May 05 From: The nearest UV host near you... Member No.: 7,390 |
SR: My precious Salvalette Guardian and my Body Armor
RL: Nothing. Some of you already know my stance about peoples who carry guns to make them feel safer |
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Sep 15 2006, 06:10 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
Yes, because if there's ever a time that you should be armed, it's when you're drunk and stoned. Now I seem to remember you alluding to this in the other thread. This is the dumbest fucking thing that I have ever heard. |
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Sep 15 2006, 06:14 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 135 Joined: 8-November 05 From: Toronto, Ontario - Canada Member No.: 7,934 |
I'm not the kind of drunk that waves his weapons around, nor do I get to riddiculous levels of drunkeness whilst outside. If you think that smoking pot will make you dangerous to be around sharp objects, then I'm willing to bet you've never smoked pot.
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