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Eryk the Red
post Sep 20 2006, 05:49 PM
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I'm working on writing an adventure that will involve the star of several Orxploitation films, and I figure I need to try to get the culture of this stuff right. Obviously, it's meant to parallel the Blaxploitation genre of the 1970s. And one common characteristic of those films was the black lead calling white folks "honkies". So I'm trying to figure out the sort of language that would get used in Orxploitation. I need some good racial slurs for him to use. Keeb and dandelion eater just don't flow right the way honkey does, especially given the "tough-guy from the ghetto" themes of these characters. Also, I don't know of any racial slurs that are used for plain old humans. Anyone got any ideas?
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post Sep 20 2006, 05:51 PM
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"Breeders" is classic for humans (and ironic, considering the reproductive rate of orks).
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post Sep 20 2006, 05:52 PM
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I think "breeder" is kind of outdated..."smoothie" is the slur of choice for people who aren't orks/trolls.
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post Sep 20 2006, 05:58 PM
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Smoothie's good, I think that'll get some use. Know of any other elf-specific ones? I picture elves being portrayed in these movies as snobbish mages, who are generally lackeys for the rich white guy (the Man), and they are generally wimps. Taken down by one punch from our hero.
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post Sep 20 2006, 05:59 PM
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post Sep 20 2006, 06:04 PM
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Elves are Keebs or keeblers, also 'dandelion-munchers'. I'm sure they get a lot of homophobic slang their way too, just by virtue of having an effeminate body structure.
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post Sep 20 2006, 06:06 PM
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You could call elves "dandies", short for dandelion eater.
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post Sep 20 2006, 06:14 PM
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Playing an Ork, I came up with this handy set of phrases that Orks might say:

Good ta see ya, alang. Haven’t in some time.
Oh, yeah? Well, buunda to you, too, pal!
Me and my cerri are going to visit our parents.
Always living in the street? That’s a hard djoto.
With that last run, I’m really living the djoto.
A transgression like killing his sister is punishable only in kind, by drundeah.
Want to come around the corner, to pull out my Luger, and to BAM, drundeah that slot.
That drek Marco is the big egrand around here, he has a piece of all the action.
My older brother was always the best egrand for me, even though he wasn’t an ork, he always saved my ass.
Let’s go see Rhumba, that egrand’rohodo on the east side, he’s got the best joytoys.
Yeah, Helena’s egrand’rohodo totally caught us slotting in their house. She isn’t even allowed to go to school right now.
I love this place- I think I’ll settle down and make an ereth.
We finally got a nice little piece of ereth’cerri to defend from those Ancients slitches.
Drek! Look at that elf, she’s eunabo, I’m gonna go chat her up.
I know, that car’s the eunabo of street racers.
The azzies are up to another public fahd, hear they’re slicing some dwarves this time.
And you betray me like this? After all the fahds I’ve made for you?
Yep, the fixer’s got a gig for six gloks, you in?
Hell yeah, I’m down to grumog and smash some soft heads.
Think you got the hez to shoot me?
Look how long that guy’s hez are! How does he eat?
I drank beer, wine and that Salish Firewater, that’s way too much hurlg, and I’m paying for it now.
I got my norgoz in my hip holster, and my other in the small of my back.
He can’t even spell, his quaalz is staggering.
Me n’ Heather had great rohodo last night- I’m exhausted but happy.
Skraa, guys, what’s up?
We went to find him where he fell in the alley, but he was already tharon.
Renraku AND Neonet? You mean this drek is tharon owned?
He’s a turgma, he let them know all about us!
Sure, we take ujnort, humans, elves, whatever.
Yeah, we dated for about a year for she agreed to be my vruken.
Yeah, we dated for about a year for he agreed to be my vrukart.
That is a huge load of vut.
There’s going to be a huge wejoto tonight, we will kill all the guards and break free!
How much yerz we getting for the job?
Hey, he shot at me, that means zakhan for life… or till death

And of couse the actual translation:

alang chummer
buunda Expletive, often accompanied by an obscene gesture (i.e. the finger).
cerri sibling
djoto Way of life, slang: life of crime or SINless
drundeah Execution, slang: to murder someone
egrand Protector, slang: crime lord
egrand'rohodo slang: a pimp or a girlfriend's parents
ereth home
ereth'cerri slang: ghetto or turf
eth group, slang: gang
eunabo best pick of the lot, slang:sexually desirable
fahd sacrifice, slang: personal sacrifice for a friend
glok runner, slang: shadowrunner
grumog to fight, slang: a brawl (screamed before starting a fight)
hez tusk, slang: an ork's courage, nerve, and sexual prowess
hurlg alcohol
norgoz weapon (typically "gun")
quaalz idiocy, idiomatic: "full of quaalz"
rohodo sex
skraa a greeting ("Hello!")
tharon dead, slang: corporate
turgma traitor
ujnort non-Orks
vrukart boyfriend
vruken girlfriend
vut expletive, ("drek")
wejoto Against the way, rebellion
yerz money
zakhan enemy
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post Sep 20 2006, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi)
Elves are Keebs or keeblers, also 'dandelion-munchers'. I'm sure they get a lot of homophobic slang their way too, just by virtue of having an effeminate body structure.

I was thinking the same thing now that SR has gone back to early-21st century slang that the word fag probably gets tossed in their general direction quite often.
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post Sep 20 2006, 07:05 PM
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now that SR has gone back to early-21st century slang


We need a "barfy" emoticon.
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post Sep 20 2006, 07:25 PM
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Beats ghoul slang I suppose:

Human - Food
Elf - Food
Ork - Food
Dwarf - Snack
Troll - Banquet

It just lacks subtlety.

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post Sep 20 2006, 07:38 PM
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With racial slurs you usually are trying to be slick.

I knew a guy who called mexicans loosenecks because that company that made mexican jumping beans in CHEAP packages. It was of course based out of Mexico so that made it worse.

See you dont want it to be N word direct unless your trying to start a fight or make someone cry.
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post Sep 20 2006, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (Warmaster Lah)
With racial slurs you usually are trying to be slick.

I knew a guy who called mexicans loosenecks because that company that made mexican jumping beans in CHEAP packages. It was of course based out of Mexico so that made it worse.

See you dont want it to be N word direct unless your trying to start a fight or make someone cry.

Or a little of both. I once heard a reporter tell a story about how he saw a cameraman open a can of whoop-ass on a redneck in Mississippi (after putting down the camera, of course) for using that word on him. And really, if you can't get away with that in the deep south, where *can* you get away with it? Other than the Internet, of course.

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post Sep 20 2006, 07:45 PM
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But it has consistency.
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post Sep 20 2006, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE (Warmaster Lah)
See you dont want it to be N word direct unless your trying to start a fight or make someone cry.

Or you happen to be black. I see the N word tossed around all the time (and as best as I can remember, always between blacks).
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post Sep 20 2006, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE (nezumi)
QUOTE (Warmaster Lah @ Sep 20 2006, 02:38 PM)
See you dont want it to be N word direct unless your trying to start a fight or make someone cry.

Or you happen to be black. I see the N word tossed around all the time (and as best as I can remember, always between blacks).

Not as common as people think. I've never used the word as part of normal conversation, and neither have any of my "black" friends. It's kept alive by rappers and people who want to emulate them, for the most part. Or, as a friend of mine is fond of saying, "A black guy who calls me that is getting a lecture; a white guy who calls me that is getting his ass kicked".

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post Sep 20 2006, 08:02 PM
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you're in the minority (heh), JonathanC, at least in the parts of the world i've seen. rappers and people who want to emulate them are pretty common.
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post Sep 20 2006, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE (JonathanC)
Not as common as people think. I've never used the word as part of normal conversation, and neither have any of my "black" friends. It's kept alive by rappers and people who want to emulate them, for the most part. Or, as a friend of mine is fond of saying, "A black guy who calls me that is getting a lecture; a white guy who calls me that is getting his ass kicked".

Horridly off-topic, I know, but I'm bi-racial and I tend to say n*gger all the time as either a term of endearment or as an exclamation, particularly after beer. Would I get my ass kicked or get a lecture? I'm guessing both at the same time.

I think that n*gger is the only derogatory racial slur that has been co-opted by the race it originally referred to. I can't think of a single other racial slur that was welcomed by those it was used to debase.

As far as offensiveness goes, it really, really, really depends on who you're hanging out with. Most of the black guys I hung out with in college (in Southern California) could give a squirt of flaming camel piss if you say n*gger. Some of the blacks guys I hung out with in college got visibly upset at the word "wigger" or even the sylable "nig" when used in other words. I think the bottom line is that the word is astronomically offensive to a small group of people, and unless you're certain that everyone listening is not a member fo that group, it's not okay to say "n*gger". But as someone who is not offended at the word, I don't really know if I have a say.

So trolls don't call each other trogs dwarves don't call each other halfers.
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post Sep 20 2006, 08:16 PM
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Personally, I blame Dave Chappelle.
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post Sep 20 2006, 08:16 PM
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Again, I think it depends on where you're looking. On television and music videos? Sure. On a street corner in a bad neighborhood? Absolutely. The guys that you work with at the office? Less likely, or at least less often.
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post Sep 20 2006, 08:19 PM
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Personally, I blame Dave Chappelle.

Me too.
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post Sep 20 2006, 08:21 PM
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On a street corner in a bad neighborhood? Absolutely. The guys that you work with at the office? Less likely, or at least less often.

there's a really, really big range of people between "bad neighborhood" and "white collar".
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post Sep 20 2006, 08:23 PM
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Sounds like something an "Uncouth" char would be spouting out anywhere... stress ANYWHERE.
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post Sep 20 2006, 08:23 PM
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I wouldn't say I'm "white collar". About middle class, college graduate. I'm just saying that I don't hear it that often from people I know or went to school with. I think the popularity of the word is generally overstated by people.
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post Sep 20 2006, 08:28 PM
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it's been pretty common among blacks everywhere i've lived. school, college, military, work, etcetera. i'm not going to say my experience is more representative of the norm than yours, but that is my experience.

but... well, look at the popularity of rap music, if we're talking about rap as a perpetuator. there's a lot of money going into rap music, that a lot of people are paying. a lot of people buy into rap culture--literally.
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