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Dentris

Sep 24 2006, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE (emo samurai)

So metamagics will cost 15 karma? How about initiation grade? Will that just equal Edge? Because there are rules for free spirits advancement in the book, they're just really harsh on Force increase.

Actually, the creation rules i meant was the free spirit creation rules i made up...To stay balanced, i would say metamagic costs 5 karma to learn, while initiation costs 5+1 per initiation level...

DireRadiant View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 04:28 PM Post #27
The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667	Dentris, did you get a chance to look over the Qabbalistic Possession Character, I'd be willing to play that instead of trying to struggle through figuring out how to do the drone inhabitation.

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Sep 24 2006, 04:52 PM

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Dentris, did you get a chance to look over the Qabbalistic Possession Character, I'd be willing to play that instead of trying to struggle through figuring out how to do the drone inhabitation.

Dire Radiant: your character looks perfectly fine that way...It only needs a more complete personality/background.

Tattered~Seraphi... Tattered~Seraphim View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 05:16 PM Post #29
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 28-March 06 Member No.: 8,412	Dentris: Thanks. That I was able to understand. My problem's purely down to knowing what spells are available to be learnt that I'm having trouble with, and where the list is in the main rulesbook.

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Sep 24 2006, 05:22 PM

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Dentris: Thanks. That I was able to understand. My problem's purely down to knowing what spells are available to be learnt that I'm having trouble with, and where the list is in the main rulesbook.

The available list is at the end of the chapter about magic, and you may learn any of the spells presented...

Tattered~Seraphi... Tattered~Seraphim View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 05:39 PM Post #31
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 28-March 06 Member No.: 8,412	Thanks! :D Now I should be able to finish off Hecate's profile. Is her background ok?

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Sep 24 2006, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE (Tattered~Seraphim)

Thanks! :D Now I should be able to finish off Hecate's profile. Is her background ok?

It's ok, but it needs a little bit more details, as well as an outline of its personality.

emo samurai View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 06:38 PM Post #33
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019	How much does 1 BP buy? I'm thinking of changing my spirit's powers.

Tattered~Seraphi... Tattered~Seraphim View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 07:07 PM Post #34
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 28-March 06 Member No.: 8,412	Right, I've pretty much finished Hecate now. Just have 1BP left over. I thought I'd given her personality, ah well. [ Spoiler ] Hecate, the Dark Sorceress Type: Spirit of Man, Hermetic Tradition- Wicca force rating of 1 goes to 4(24) edge of 1 goes to 2 (10) powers Astral Form, Banishing Resistance, Sapience and Spirit Pact, Materialization, Enhanced Senses, Mystic Armour Magician Quality (with a magic rating 4) Spells: Chaos, Mob Control, Shadow, Manabolt skills Assessing, Astral Combat, Spell-casting, Dodge, Perception and Unarmed Combat (free) (1 BP left over) B A R S C I L W EDG ESS M Init IP 5 4 6 2 4 4 4 4 4 4 12 2 Finally, a spirit has 2 IP in physical form and 3 IP in astral form. Lifestyle: Medium Personality: Despite the dark nature of her spells, Hecate is generally quite a fun-loving, at times mischievious spirit, enjoying taking to the stage with her last master, an elven dark magician called Mordred. However, she has a dark side to her personality that can take over without any notice. At a whim, she can become malicious and uncaring for the magicians and witches who she at other times enjoys helping. Tradition: Hecate follows the tradition of Wicca, especially the ways of her namesake deity Hecate, the sorceress goddess. Background: For a long time, Hecate has been a guide and helper to witches and magicians of black magics. And then, a few years ago she was summoned to do the bidding of the dark elven magician Mordred, a fairly successful illusionist and stage magician (think of Chris Angel), and at some time Shadowrunner from England. He bound her to him, and she aided him both personally and during shows. He was repetatively rebinding her to him, so her tenure to service increased. Meanwhile, 'she' had found herself growing fond of him. But then tragedy struck, and Mordred died as a result of a dangerous stunt trick going horribly wrong. It may have been due to the intervention of another rival magician, or an enemy from his past, Hecate doesn't know. Downhearted by the death of her pet magician (as she saw it)/ master, Hecate returned to doing as she had done previously. However, disater struck when she tried to return to her home plane. She found herself banished, having to live on the astral plane. With that, she also left England for the time being.

BlackHat View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 07:28 PM Post #35
Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,486 Joined: 17-March 05 From: Michigan Member No.: 7,180	TS: Doesn't matter that the physical form is elven. It could be an elephant and the stats would be the same. :-) It should be listed under "spirit of (wo)man" dependant on your force. Anyone: Do spirits suffer drain? If so, is can they take stun damage in physical form if manifesting - or is all damage physical to them?

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Sep 24 2006, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE (emo samurai)

How much does 1 BP buy? I'm thinking of changing my spirit's powers.

1 BP = 1 Karma after character creation.
It won't buy you anything at character creation.

Tattered~Seraphi... Tattered~Seraphim View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 08:12 PM Post #37
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 28-March 06 Member No.: 8,412	Ta again BlackHat.

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Sep 24 2006, 08:41 PM

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Ta again BlackHat.

I hope "Ta" is a good thing. :-)

emo samurai View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 08:44 PM Post #39
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019	Can we use Edge to augment initiation grade? It says in Street Magic that we can...

Dentris

Sep 24 2006, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE (Tattered~Seraphim @ Sep 24 2006, 02:07 PM)

Right, I've pretty much finished Hecate now. Just have 1BP left over. I thought I'd given her personality, ah well.

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Tattered Seraphim: Ok, the points are ok, but you are missing a power (you only took one free power while you could have taken 2) and you are missing a key element for any spellcaster: spellcasting skill. Also, your physical attributes are not right. They should be Body: 5, Agility: 4, Reaction: 6 and Strength: 2

Emo Samurai: Yes, you use edge instead of initiation grade when dealing with metamagic. Thus, you won't need to initiate...I've just noticed it.

Black Hat: When materializing, you are considered a normal spellcaster, and suffer stun drain if the force of the spell is equal or below your magic, or physical if the force is higher than your force.

Ophis View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 08:58 PM Post #41
Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760	Damn it, what is there to do with one character point? unless I drop my edge to 1 and grab the power back and go for force 5. Which is a tempting option.

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Sep 24 2006, 09:13 PM

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Damn it, what is there to do with one character point? unless I drop my edge to 1 and grab the power back and go for force 5. Which is a tempting option.

Ophis: You can keep your BP for later, because it is worth as much as one karma point...Or you can be a force 5 spirit if you really want to...

Tattered~Seraphi... Tattered~Seraphim View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 09:20 PM Post #43
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 433 Joined: 28-March 06 Member No.: 8,412	Thanks Dentris. I thought I'd included enhanced senses and materialization as my free powers. Oh well. Have added spellcastign now and corrected reactions. I got the reactions 8 from the book, which gives spirits of man as B A R S C I L W EDG ESS M Init IP F+1 F Fx2 F-2 F F F F F F F Fx3 2. As Hecate's force is 4, 4 x 2 = 8, rather than F + 2 = 6.

emo samurai View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 10:11 PM Post #44
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019	I'd like to replace Tu Shu Guan's free power with Realistic Form. He is mr. face, after all.

Dentris

Sep 24 2006, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE (Tattered~Seraphim @ Sep 24 2006, 04:20 PM)

Thanks Dentris. I thought I'd included enhanced senses and materialization as my free powers. Oh well. Have added spellcastign now and corrected reactions. I got the reactions 8 from the book, which gives spirits of man as
B A R S C I L W EDG ESS M Init IP
F+1 F Fx2 F-2 F F F F F F F Fx3 2.

As Hecate's force is 4, 4 x 2 = 8, rather than F + 2 = 6.

Tattered Seraphim: Yeah, it is in the errata...

As for spellcasting, you included it in the power section while it should be in skills...

Emo Samurai: As long as you remove one of your powers to acquire a new one, no problem.

emo samurai View Member Profile	Sep 24 2006, 10:26 PM Post #46
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019	Influence is gone. [ Spoiler ] Tu Shu Guan Force 5 [32 BP] Edge 1 Skills [15 BP]:Assensing, Astral Combat, Dodge, Enchanting, Etiquette, Negotiation Perception, Unarmed Combat Powers [3 BP] :astral form, banishing resistance,, possession, Realistic Form, sapience, search, spirit pact Tu Shu Guan used to be a bureaucrat bound to peruse the endless files of the Celestial bureaucracy; he prided himself on the speed and efficiency with which he carried out requests. He assumed it would always be his lot in life to do so, and this thought did not trouble him. Then one day he was wrongly accused of taking files without authorization and cruelly exiled from the only life he ever knew.

DireRadiant View Member Profile	Sep 25 2006, 12:57 AM Post #47
The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667	The All Seeing, All Knowing Eye [ Spoiler ] Qabbalistic Hermetic Guidance Spirit Force 4 B = F + 3 = 7 A = F - 1 = 3 R = F + 2 = 6 S = F + 1 = 5 C = f = 4 I = f = 4 L = f = 4 W = F = 4 Edge = F = 2 Ess = F = 4 M = F = 4 init = F X 2 = 8 IP = 2 movement 10/25 = accel 3/15 speed 15 Edge 2 Powers - Possession - Astral Form - An eyeball - Banishing Resistance - Sapience - Spirit Pact - Divining (Free power from edge) 3 - Engulf 3 - Influence 3 - Search 5 - Regeneration Magician Quality (with a magic rating equal to its force) and the skills Skills - Assensing - Astral Combat - Dodge - Perception - Unarmed Combat. 50 bp 24 bp = add 3 force 10 BP = add one edge 0 BP = Skills 14 BP = Powers 2 BP leftover BG Number 6, or the All Seeing, All Knowing Eye, as he is known to his friends enjoys traveling the mundane world, touching the minds of the mundane, helping various researchers find things. A lot of his time in the metaplanes he finds very boring. But dutifully he returns to take his turn as part of the cog of spiritual machinery, he knows it's important for him to make up the numbers. But now he can't go back, the codes that he uses to enter, the routines to return, no longer work. He's desperate to find the answer to let him get back and take his turn. Now that he's missed his duty, he realizes he needs to go home. Someone is plotting something bad. He's not averse to possessing pretty much anyone, a common trick is to possess someone hurt or ill, making them better. However, when called upon by hermetics, he traditionally inhabits inanimate objects. One of his old favorites is an old human skull. In these modern days, he found anew trick of pretending to be the voice or ghost in the machine. Do we start with en edge of 1, and get a power with that one edge?

Cold-Dragon View Member Profile	Sep 25 2006, 01:17 AM Post #48
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 753 Joined: 31-October 03 Member No.: 5,780	Yep. 1st point of edge and force are freebies, and that free edge point means you get a 'free' power.

Dentris View Member Profile	Sep 25 2006, 03:46 AM Post #49
Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 315 Joined: 10-June 06 Member No.: 8,691	As Cold-Dragon said.

emo samurai View Member Profile	Sep 25 2006, 04:08 AM Post #50
Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019	So... we starting tomorrow?

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