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BishopMcQ
post Oct 24 2006, 09:44 PM
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It's a pity that you've expressed defeatism on the subject of submitting proposals to FanPro, because there is going to be an open call for submissions for the next book that will talk about the Tir and you've obviously thought a lot about that subject.

-Frank

Something about SL James writing for FanPro equally intrigues and terrifies me...
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post Oct 24 2006, 10:09 PM
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There are a couple of people pushing me very hard to do just that.

There are also quite a few reasons why I did effectively give up. Whether that ever changes is contingent on a lot more than them, no matter how close we are, harping on me to do it.
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post Oct 24 2006, 10:12 PM
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Apologies but our ISP at work ran into trouble while I was editing my original post and I couldn't get refreshes to work from international sites. Just got home and I am editing the post now.

For the record, I'm British, though I do live in the Portuguese capital of Lisbon.
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post Oct 24 2006, 10:22 PM
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From the few examples of games that I've seen that you ran, you defintely have interesting ideas. You shouldn't have to worry to much about things like how you say things thanks to editors as much as what you have to say, you're ideas. Assuming your writing is at least intelligible. ;)

And don't yell at me, I've read some of your fiction, and I know it is. Just saying in general. :)

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post Oct 24 2006, 10:58 PM
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For the record I'm British though I do live in Portuguese.

...don't you mean Portugal?
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post Oct 24 2006, 11:54 PM
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Sorry about that apparently the ISProvider's problems earlier tonight are related to the fact that Lisbon is currently under one of the biggest storms in the past 10 years and we're suffering brown-outs and power failures in several areas of town. It just caught up with me at home and my connection is fluctuating on and off, and refreshing doesn't always work. That last post was my connection dropping out as I added the last few words.

I think I'll retire for the night before it happens again...
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post Oct 25 2006, 12:51 AM
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KK:
System Failure did have the run idea about Lugh Surehand being on the run from Ghosts. personally I didn't care for that since he's an IE, and shouldn't have to run from most anyone, but it works in the context of the idea that it's trying to show the upheavel going on. Just push the *I forgot he's immortal/all powerful* button.

...no one's immortal if your gun is big enough, it's loaded with the right ammo, and you can get the drop on them...

-KK [in character]

Yeah, I tend to avoid the most using of the IEs when I run a campaign as well as the GDs.

I do have one spiker, Princess Kam, who got sick & tired of all the mechanicians in the TT & returned to the tropical paradise of her native Hawai'i back in '56.
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post Oct 25 2006, 12:55 AM
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For the record, I'm British, though I do live in the Portuguese capital of Lisbon.

You mean you aren't a damn dirty foreigner? Although living somewhere abroad does make you at least somewhat suspect. :P
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post Oct 25 2006, 02:59 PM
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At first it may seem silly that the oh-so-powerful IE's of TT would loose power to the masses. But then again, Ehran, maybe the most powerful of them, left. Oakforest left. Asshole-Alachia probably wouldn't want to give power away, but she's got other interests, the Atlantean foundation and Tir Na nOg, at least to some extent. And if Harlequin was behind the rinelle, well, he's supposed to be the most powerful metahuman magician on the planet. And that's only the elves, I think Hestaby had her claws in this equation too, and maybe other Greats.
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post Oct 25 2006, 10:22 PM
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I think the least problematic result is that the chief executive isn't someone whose reputation is for mediation and consensus-building, as opposed to firm leadership. It's almost as if some of the Princes would want to test his resolve to see if he failed or focused...

Fact is, what is canon was reconcilable with about 90% of what I wrote last October as part of a campaign (which, curse the demigods, has only reached the climax after 13 months). However, my ideas tend to be rather bloody and far less satisfactory as, for example, the conclusion of the first gig of Standalone Complex: All of the intrigue, and none of the "right" or "just" payoff. Maybe it's from all those years rooting for the villains.

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It was considered and we'll get round to the Tir soon enough.

Pity your mind is made up regarding SR4. Submissions for that particular book will be coming up soon. But then again you probably wouldn't like the constraints the writers tend to be under.

Well, it is what it is, and you're not the first person to mention my ability or willingness to work under the conditions you all do. What matters more than anything else, especially anyone's ability to work with anyone else, is being able to put an idea on paper. Everything else is quite a bit removed IMO. And it is that more than anything else which has kept me from putting together a proposal for an idea to which I've already committed over 9,000 words. But when progress halts for a month +, that's very much the last thing anyone wants from an author, or a GM. Luckily, I have tolerant players. Unluckily, one of the most important matters of the material has yet to manifest itself beyond general subject matter.
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post Oct 26 2006, 01:27 AM
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What matters more than anything else, especially anyone's ability to work with anyone else, is being able to put an idea on paper. Everything else is quite a bit removed IMO. And it is that more than anything else which has kept me from putting together a proposal for an idea to which I've already committed over 9,000 words.

...for me it was being less than 20% from completion of the draft for my Rhapsody Arc (which I was planning to submit after playtesting) when I heard the news about SR4 being in development (& that was through the DS forum, not the main website).

Kind of took a lot of the enthusiasm out of it all. Still ran the campaign, but it now resides in it's "unfinished" state in an archive folder on my hard drive.

...more related to thread

Had another campaign theme in the works, but with the wholesale changes to the TT that appear to have occurred, the main plot hook is obsolete.

The working title: "Enemy of the Tir"
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post Oct 26 2006, 03:20 AM
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In all honesty, if you are looking for someone who is insanely committed to making the Tir a superb setting and who can write circles around me, talk to Critias (assuming he has the time).

DE should probably tell you the same thing.
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