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 Nov 10 2006, 02:34 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 28-May 04 From: Moorhead, MN, USA Member No.: 6,367  |
Cut back on the caffeine SL James. In what way does the Wachowskis' intentions negate anything knasser said? None at all.
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Nov 10 2006, 02:51 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Seriously, I can understand your point of view on the subject, but I'm in the other camp as far as it is concerned. I wouldn't have cared if they had turned Hamilton into a toxic waste dump, and had the Pickering nuclear plant meltdown cause a wave of refugees to flood into and totally destroy Ottawa, while creating a new Ghoul haven in the remains of the amusement park on Toronto Island, overseen by a leonized and shedim-ridden Wayne Gretzky. Anything! |
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Nov 10 2006, 04:21 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
OK, I'll talk it over with the other freelancers, let's see if we can't get a shedim ridden Gretzky ruling that place. :P -Frank |
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Nov 10 2006, 08:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 394 Joined: 19-May 03 From: In your base eating your food. Member No.: 4,607 |
You mean he's not already? |
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Nov 10 2006, 09:51 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 60 Joined: 13-July 03 From: Scotsprawl Member No.: 4,923 |
Bugger, hope you know this means a major re-write of my mini-Scotland sourcebook :D
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Nov 10 2006, 05:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
Halarious! But to bring this back around point. A Young Arthur is 5 years old right now when does Merlin come into play (and better yet WHO is Merlin)? I wonder if it is that one uber caster guy in Prime Runners. As far as excalibur having an ego... that would be cool if it took over pendragon. Knights of the round table... TIGHT! bring em back but none of that Gwen cheating on him crap... Keep Camelot Alive or at least for 20 or so years. Lancelot... well if the cheating did happen it would be between 2 imortal elves huh? any other speculation or comments about Synner's genious? |
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Nov 10 2006, 05:24 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
You're mah hero! :love: |
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Nov 10 2006, 07:31 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
:evil: Ah! Someone who remembers H. and Ambrose. Everybody should know by now that I've got a penchant for not going for the obvious answer and dredging up obscure characters and references. Heck, I thought it was cool to bring Johnny Spinrad and Winternight back from oblivion! I'm also very much into threading real world, mythological and literary references through my writing (ie. dredging up Spinrad and Mina Beloit to show humans can take on Lofwyr, Winternight's interpretation of the Ragnarok mythos in System Failure, a nod at Umberto Eco's work in Loose Alliances, nods at some valuable influences as one-off shadowtalkers in SoA's India) so count on more of that. |
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Nov 10 2006, 07:43 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
Well some of it only made sense. Who else could be Merlin? As far as Spinard is he still around? Obviouly the Loffy has to be onto him... unless he was dragonslayer hhhhhmmmm *ponders the possibility by tilting his head*
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Nov 10 2006, 09:17 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
@Synner: :notworthy: Much more than I had noticed. I appreciate it!
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Nov 11 2006, 12:20 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Note that Synner did not confirm or deny your suspicions ;) |
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Nov 11 2006, 02:07 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
Yeah but its more fun to believe Im right. BTW I'm doing the research right now.
Fortune...please take this as a compliment and a sign of deep respcet.... Ready? I now dub you my nemesis. I consider you an equal in all respects but you make me work to hard to get the answers and rebuf my conspiracy and story theories constantly. In short... I love you like my long lost frat buddy who constantly makes me suffer some humiliating pain in front of all the hot SoHo's. When I go out tonight in about 2 hours I'm taking a shot for you :D put that in your joint and smoke it *cough cough*... oh its so sticky!! [EDIT] umm nevermind that comment kind sir i have been taught to respect my elders... especially OG's like you |
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Nov 11 2006, 06:39 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
:smokin: |
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Nov 11 2006, 09:46 AM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
I'm going to have to reread everything. This is of course giving me idea's more my British campaign at the mo. I opened with a first run based around the NDM trying to attack some of the Oxford circle's support, good to see it's important. I wonder if "Arthur" has been fostered.
Hands up who thinks the writers should get together and give us a free "state of play" for the world? It's not like they're busy right ;). |
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Nov 11 2006, 10:13 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Sorry to dredge this back up, but I've been gone a few days.
The back of SoE metnions that dandy old elf from Balck madonna Hessler tagging along with the 'Pendragon'. He does have that spirit buddynamed Merlin. Pendragon dissapearing from plain sight also sounds like the fading power. Just throwing things out there. |
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Nov 11 2006, 10:18 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
Hessler also appears in Prime Runners. What? People thought I'd waste valuable wordcount on a throw-away reference when I can set up something for a payoff down the line? :P fistandantilus should know better ;) |
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Nov 11 2006, 10:21 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I know, I was thinking about that just after i left work when I started the thread, just no chance to get back on it. I'd forgot about the Prime Runners statting. I was just thinking about Black Madonna (got it on my desk right on front of me. On pg 112, merlin is talking). Nice timing BTW Synner. :D
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Nov 12 2006, 05:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
So we know who is hangin with the dragon. But where he came from is a big question. The island on the leyline, (I forget its name). Is there ant mention of the lady of the lake? That might be another free spirt or even the sea serpant (thought I would throw a dragon in too). Anyone have a heads up or a few clues on this?
Also do the Callanish have a role to play in this? I can see them trying to kidnapp and sacrifice a young Aurthur (who would be tied to the land of England). |
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Nov 14 2006, 01:31 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
They sorta already tried that in the 50's. Secrets of Power trilogy book 2.
Hessler (called Zessler in Prime Runners fro some reasons) is a grade 8 initiate (as of PR at least), lives in Glastonbury. His ally is named Merlin. Looks like a young man, very curios. As of PR, Hessler was working on whether or not the Henge was a metaplanar portal or somesuch. Who knows, maybe he opened something and brought Lyonesse through. Who knows. Anyways, maybe he was supporting "the new king", maybe jsut waiting for somethign to happen. Incidentally, AH thinks he's a spike baby, at least, since last I asked him about it. |
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Nov 14 2006, 03:18 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
:smokin: Here try some of mine it's chicago's finest *passes the joint* Anyways Ambrose? I know he had a few mentions in the posts but who the hell is he? Does anyone have a lead on "Ambrose"? Stone Henge as a metaplanar portal or somesuch? Thats an interesting idea. If thats true and stone henge is being used as a power site by other druids how is that connected? Or is it? |
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Nov 14 2006, 03:24 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
But no real mention of that since Prime Runners...
As for Ambrose, IIRC, Virual Realities 2.0, a conversation between "The Laughing Man" and "Ambrose" discussing things like cybermancy and otaku. Try the Ancient Files |
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Nov 14 2006, 03:49 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
Already looked @ what he had. A short mention but no confirmation. What about the Black Lodge? Would that be the new Arthurs enimes, the people who are going to try and take him down? There based in Scottland
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Nov 14 2006, 04:11 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Black Lodge is more against IE's and dragons. They're pretty strong in France as well.
With the LPO as an enemy, you don't really need a lot more anyways. :) It's never really confirmed who Ambrose is. Not yet anyways. |
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Nov 14 2006, 02:22 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 124 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 2,072 |
I would say nah to this. The original Comic was produced way back in 1982-85. Far before this current Bush and his problems. People projected what they wanted on the movie. It was timely but I've seen a lot of works eerily similar to the present. The world doesn't revolve around Bush. If a movie about fascism, and loss of liberites vs. security, made you jump to thinking it was Bush bashing then that definately says something about the man, and the administration, eh? |
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Nov 14 2006, 03:25 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
I am not an idiot. I know all about the original comic. I also know why Alan Moore disowned the movie, and it can be concisely put as the Wachowskis putting their own shit into his work. The tone of the movie and the comic are completely different.
And, btw, the comic is about fascism vs anarchy, not loss of liberty vs security. Storm Saxon, for example, is a non sequitur in the movie without the whole Norsefire background, which was completely excised from the movie to make a contemporary political statement. It's just a crap movie all around, but the fact that they gutted the comic like a fish deserves the most special scorn. |
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