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Dantic
post Nov 23 2006, 03:13 AM
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A man in Minnesota was shot and robbed walking out of a Wal-Mart with his new PS3. Fucking. Ridiculous.

I mean, fuck. Where are our damn priorities and how fucked up are our perspectives when we FUCKING SHOOT PEOPLE OVER A DAMN VIDEO GAME MACHINE?????

Disgusting.

And yet...

... Not only have I participated in a run, where the objective was the latest/greatest sim/game in SR3 setting, as soon as I saw this story, I made a scenario to send a team on a mission to smash and grab a closely guarded mystery case in SR4 setting...

... that turns out to be the latest/greatest acessory for Miracle Shooter, due to be released in limited quantities.
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post Nov 23 2006, 03:18 AM
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QUOTE (Kagetenshi)
QUOTE (eidolon @ Nov 18 2006, 09:10 PM)
how fucked up are our perspectives when we FUCKING SHOOT PEOPLE OVER A DAMN VIDEO GAME MACHINE?????

Less fucked up than when we were fucking shooting people over a damn pair of sneakers?

Expensive item causes involved in theft. News at 11.

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(Edit: corrected self)

That's the same thing I said to people at work, who were talking about this. Dying for PS3 vs Dying for Air Jordans.
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post Nov 23 2006, 03:32 AM
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Shit! We were doing runs for Tickle-Me-Dunky™ dolls almost ten years ago. :D
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post Nov 23 2006, 05:55 AM
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LOL, I love the Wii comercials. Since I'm not yet at HD, I'll be picking one of those little doo-dads up, my soon to be roomie is getting the PS3 in a few weeks when supply is actually existing.
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post Nov 23 2006, 04:46 PM
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I own a 360, picked it up last May or so, love it. I was hestitant to drop $400 for it, and it mostly sat and played played DVD's for the first couple months, but I've really put it through it's paces lately. Dead Rising, Oblivion, and Marvel Ultimate ALliance consumed a large portion of my free time there. :]

A buddy got a Wii at launch, and we played it for like 6 hours. It's far, far more fun than I thought it would be. I'll be picking one up after Christmas. Wii Boxing and Wii baseball for the win :)

No one has said or done or shown me anything to kindle any interest in a PS3, even if one were to magically appear on the shelves at Gamestop. There's nothing confirmed right now that I absolutely must own or must play for the system, and the graphics haven't stunned me. Granted, in 3 or 4 years, sure, we'll start seeing the difference between the PS3 and 360, graphically, but until then, I doubt it'll be the least bit noticable. Between the price tag, Sony's "marketing" tactics and blunders, and just the ineptitude all around has really soured me on Playstation in general.

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post Nov 29 2006, 04:03 AM
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It is looking more and more like the wii for me. Low price, kid friendly games that allow my kid to excercise to a limited fashion. The only drawbacks are no dvd player and i'm not to sure if there are any stragety/rpg's slated for wii.
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post Nov 29 2006, 05:44 AM
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got courious today looked over on ebay you too can own your own PS3 for a mear 900 to 1100 bucks.
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post Nov 29 2006, 06:49 AM
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post Nov 29 2006, 04:09 PM
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Posted before but it's still appropriate.


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post Nov 29 2006, 04:20 PM
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No, it's been fucking stupid since VGCats posted it, but don't let that distract you.

(See shortage discussion above)

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post Nov 29 2006, 04:24 PM
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Meh, says you. I think it's hilarious. :D
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post Nov 29 2006, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE (Hocus Pocus)
The only drawbacks are no dvd player and i'm not to sure if there are any stragety/rpg's slated for wii.

You don't already own a DVD player?
Not sure about the strategy/rpg thing, though.
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post Nov 29 2006, 04:53 PM
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1.) I always wait a year when a new system comes out. So it is now time for me to pick up an Xbox360.

I've been impressed with the system.

And a year from now I'll pick up a PS3. It doesn't cost that much if you plan and dont impulse buy.


2.) People were really shocked by the PS3 violence. But people are not being robbed and killed for PS3s... they are being robbed and killed for MONEY, on the whole. Friend of mine made $1500 profit on X360 resales. The PS3 resales were just as rediculous.
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post Nov 30 2006, 03:52 AM
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have a dvd/vcr combo thing where the dvd player part of it gave up the ghost. Whenever i tried inserting a cd it spits it back out. Had my PS2 hooked up anywho and just watch dvds on that now. Might have to buy a new player when/if i get the wii.

i've leared more and more to stragedy than rpg as i feel the final fantasy series has steadily moved from game enjoyment to fmv sequences and the like. The only game I'm still playing for PS2 is romance of the three kingdomss 8 and civilization III (picked it up and Freedome force vs the thrid reich for 7.99 each). That's kinda what I"m looking for for myself, but like i said before i want a system my 5 year old and the wife can enjoy as well.
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post Nov 30 2006, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE (Moon-Hawk)
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The only drawbacks are no dvd player and i'm not to sure if there are any stragety/rpg's slated for wii.

You don't already own a DVD player?
Not sure about the strategy/rpg thing, though.

Zelda is your launch RPG.

and, to chime in late on a topic: sony gains nothing by deliberately inducing a shortage. The way to win for them was to provide enough units that people wouldn't go shopping around for a different system. It hurts them, and it hurts 3rd party devlopers who can't afford to publish their game on a system with a small user base.
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post Nov 30 2006, 05:16 PM
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Zelda is your launch RPG.

I think calling Zelda an RPG is a bit of a stretch.
It is, however, an awesome game.
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post Nov 30 2006, 06:53 PM
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Here is the biggest problem. And its why Im not bothering with either of the expensive 7th gen boxes. Blue Ray vs. HDDVD. One of them is going to loose big, and I all ready have enough dead end tech in my PC (phucking switch away from socket 939...), so Im going to get a Wii and enjoy my self. We all remember Betamax, or laser disks. or if you don't, well this is your time to watch.
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post Nov 30 2006, 08:30 PM
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hmm... would you call zelda more of an adventure game then? It's not the final fantasy template, but I thought of game like that as rpg's in the console world.
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post Nov 30 2006, 08:36 PM
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Well, I'm not sure what, exactly, constitutes an RPG, but you don't "level up", you don't get to make your character, you don't have any decisions to make in a completely linear plot. Not that an RPG necessarily needs all of those things, but most of them have at least one of them.
For what it's worth, gamespot categorizes Twilight Princess as a "Fantasy Action Adventure".

And just to be clear, I am not ragging on Twilight Princess. It's a fantastic game. Wonderful. I just wouldn't categorize it as an RPG.
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post Dec 1 2006, 03:39 AM
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I'm down home for the "classic" rpg ala the early FF titles. I long for the pixelated versions of yore and although the lastest edition looks interesting, it doesn't have that jump up and grab your crotch kinda feel like the old ones did.


echo that on the price. PS3 priced itself out of contention for me. I could just buy a new comp sans the monitor for a hundred more bucks or so that is pretty top of the line. Plus my wife would go ballistic.

xbox is a long shot possibility, but i don't see any kid like games my 5 year old would enjoy...
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post Dec 1 2006, 03:44 AM
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I could just buy a new comp sans the monitor for a hundred more bucks or so that is pretty top of the line.

No, you couldn't. You could buy yourself a very decent computer, one that could do a fair bit of gaming, but make no mistake—the top of the line still floats upwards of the $2,000 mark.

To put "top of the line" in perspective, for the price of the deluxe PS3, you could buy about two-thirds of a top-of-the-line graphics card.

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post Dec 1 2006, 06:25 AM
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yeow! 2 thousand bucks?!?! looks like my definition of i upper end model differs from most. Put one together for 600 bucks roughly not too long ago. Man if i spent 2k my wife would kill me!
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post Dec 1 2006, 10:03 AM
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A GeForce 8800GTX with 768MB of GDDR3 with a PCI Express x16 interface goes for about $630. That's pretty much the top of the line of gaming cards. Any more than that and you're looking at a graphics editing workstation.

But in the PC Gaming world "Top of the line" is generally unnecessary. No current game is going to push that graphics card to its limits.

But, one thing to remember about home consoles is that they are not top=of-the-line. Sure, they've got powerful hardware but they aren't nearly as powerful as a home PC can be. The big advantage is the hardware uniformity combined with far less abstraction. This allows the programmers to write for the hardware specifically instead of writing generically and the lack of the abstraction layers provided by an operating system greatly reduces the overhead.
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post Dec 1 2006, 12:36 PM
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A GeForce 8800GTX with 768MB of GDDR3 with a PCI Express x16 interface goes for about $630. That's pretty much the top of the line of gaming cards. Any more than that and you're looking at a graphics editing workstation.

Graphics workstation cards generally start upwards of $1k. You're right that most of the high-end cards still float around $600-$700, though that's before we talk about silly things like SLI (you thought one $600 graphics card was enough?).

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But in the PC Gaming world "Top of the line" is generally unnecessary. No current game is going to push that graphics card to its limits.

No, but it's the only way you're going to be playing current games to their max for more than a year. That or buying more stuff to swap in later (which is a valid approach, but we were talking top-of-the-line here).

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post Dec 1 2006, 05:00 PM
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But in the PC Gaming world "Top of the line" is generally unnecessary. No current game is going to push that graphics card to its limits.

No, but it's the only way you're going to be playing current games to their max for more than a year. That or buying more stuff to swap in later (which is a valid approach, but we were talking top-of-the-line here).

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This year's Top of the Line is next years old crud. By the tieme you need it it won't be top of the line anymore and it'll be several hundred dollars cheaper as a consequence.
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