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 Nov 16 2006, 09:19 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon...  Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698  |
That doesn't mean the dragons don't have the knowledge of it. |
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Nov 16 2006, 05:10 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Well yeah, it's shown up on public forums, dragons have knowledge of it. But it's not something that they were able to do even in the 4th world. It was developed by humans - probably during the down cycle if we are to believe the Aztlan sourcebook. As to whether there are dragons who have the ability to do that now, I'd say the answer is probably yes, although most of the old schoolers like Hestaby and Ryumyo cannot. --- Blood Magic of the sacrificing variety was taught to the people of Aztlan originally by a group of dragons. They felt that the superior numbers, higher turnover rate, and most of all better access to potential sacrifices would allow humans to outdevelope blood magic as compared to what the dragons themselves were capable of. Now that humans have come up with some powerful techniques there's a big Eastern Dragon and a big Feathered Serpent (both unnamed in official canon) who are high-fiving each other and saying "Who told you so? We told you so!" to the other immortals. Of course, many of the other immortals are like "What the hell are you doing? Blood Magic attracts horrors at thebest of times, you're just surrendering the planet to Verjiface!" And then our friends the feathered serpent and the eastern dragon high five each other again and say "Who said anything about surrendering, bitches!? We got manavoids, what the fuck have you got?" - and then both sides go back to shooting at each other. And the thing is... they might be right. Desperate times and desperate measures and all that. A lot of perfectly reasonable sounding ideas to survive the Scourge didn't work (*cough*Parlainth*cough*). And the old ways that the Tirs are resorting to... they have a pretty shitty track record. Who is to say that Aztechnology's horror survival plan isn't an improvement over the Theran one? The only way to find out would be to watch the next scourge and see who lives through it... -Frank |
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Nov 16 2006, 05:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
"Who said anything about surrendering, bitches!? We got manavoids, what the fuck have you got?".... my kind of supervillians (or whatever you want to call them). Parlainth? My ED radar is out someone fill me in on that one. there's a big Eastern Dragon and a big Feathered Serpent (both unnamed in official canon) who are high-fiving each other and saying "Who told you so? We told you so!" to the other immortals. ---- I'm dying to know who these two are it's killing me! I knew there was a dragon behind it I just knew it. Tirs are resorting to... they have a pretty shitty track record. --- Yeah fuck the Tir's those wacky elves have got it all wrong withthere uppity imortal ways. I'm glad someone is sticking it to "the elves". to watch the next scourge and see who lives through it... ---- Hmmm how soon is that comming up again? The bugs were the first sign so I wonder if there comming up soon. The Shedim seem to indocate a big yeppers on that one. P.S. Props to Frank for comming correct with a good arguement put in a very street cred way! :smokin: |
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Nov 16 2006, 06:03 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
A couple of thousand years, give or take a decade or so. ;) |
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Nov 16 2006, 06:32 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
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Nov 16 2006, 06:51 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Booooo! :( |
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Nov 16 2006, 06:58 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
I agree let it all hang out if you got something important to say. I'm not caught up on all my ED info yet |
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Nov 16 2006, 07:03 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
i was going to refute FrankTrollman's point about who learned blood magic when, but since i misread his point, my refutation was somewhat flawed.
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Nov 16 2006, 07:10 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Ahh, then I retract my 'Booooo!'. ;) |
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Nov 16 2006, 07:20 PM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
The unidentified dragon(s) pulling strings behind Aztlan have been rumored to be Corrupted. It is less likely that they're going "manavoids, bitches" and more likely that they're going "that's the idea, bitches."
The Cult of the Hunter was run by Verjigorm's pet dragons and some of them probably survived into the Sixth World. |
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Nov 16 2006, 08:57 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Parlainth was the capital of the theran province Barsaive before the Scource. The magicians there wanted to make a big show of their might and refused to use the Rites Of Protection And Passag. Instead they created a really powerful ritual spell that teleported/ moved Parlainth (with all people, pets etc.) into a secret place at astral space and (and here comes the cool part) erased the memory of Parlainths existence from the world. After the spell was cast, every living being (and probably the dead ones too) lost their knowledge of the city, even written records were cleaned. But things didn't work out as planned. Parlainth returned after the Scource (detailed in the novel "The longing ring"), but was a destroyed city, filled with Horrors, undeads and the like. Seems the people of mighty Parlainth took some Horrors with them and spent the Scourge with them. RedBrick plans to re-publish the revised version of the Parlainth Boxed Set sometime late 2007, btw. ;) |
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Nov 16 2006, 09:13 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
LOL! :grinbig: It must have sucked to be them. Wow how mad would you be to go through all that trouble and still get the bussiness. Jokes on them I guess.
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Nov 16 2006, 09:16 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Parlainth was kind of Ed's Renraku Arcology. IOW, it was the place to go for a godo dungeon crawl. Had some neat things tied to it too. Then there's the inevitable Charcolgrin/Parlainth/Technotichitlan (sp?)/MasterShake madness. Let's just let Chicago read that one himself though. Ugh.
edit: I feel dirty just for mentioning it. |
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Nov 16 2006, 09:20 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Or!
-Frank |
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Nov 16 2006, 09:23 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
:rotfl: |
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Nov 16 2006, 09:29 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
huh? :? :? |
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Nov 16 2006, 10:24 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
The only logical poll response in the thread referenced above concerning Master Shake. ;)
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Nov 16 2006, 10:27 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Oh yeah, I remember that thread. Never again, plese.
Even tough I don't see the connection our Fisty of Doom was drawing. |
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Nov 16 2006, 10:27 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
LOL questions that lead to more questions huh? I admit I'm to lazy to buy the book but it looks like I'm going to have to.
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Nov 17 2006, 12:15 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 831 Joined: 5-September 05 From: LAX, UCAS Member No.: 7,687 |
Hmm, you're right. I guess I should have read Paradise Lost more carefully back in the day. My bad.
Masking? But yeah, it sounds like you're right.
Insider knowledge? (IIRC you freelance, right?) |
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Nov 17 2006, 12:33 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Nope ... though I sometimes wish I did. Tried for a while, but it didn't work out. ;)
Just personal opinion, not insider knowledge. |
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Nov 17 2006, 02:28 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
If he was, he'd be doing a LOT better in his little struggle against Lung for the Ring of Fire.
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Nov 17 2006, 02:32 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 831 Joined: 5-September 05 From: LAX, UCAS Member No.: 7,687 |
I wasn't under the impression the corruption automatically equalled uberness. |
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Nov 17 2006, 02:35 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
no, although control of a AAA megacorp sure helps.
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Nov 17 2006, 02:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 831 Joined: 5-September 05 From: LAX, UCAS Member No.: 7,687 |
Touche :D |
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