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 Nov 24 2006, 01:17 AM
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Runner  Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731  |
I picked up Awakenings and The Grimoire yesterday. Suddenly, I know WTF you freaks are talking about when you refer to things like centering and initiatory grades. :)
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Nov 24 2006, 01:43 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
ee-yow. so, 1st or 2nd ed?
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Nov 24 2006, 02:59 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
I believe they are 2nd & 3rd edition.
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Nov 24 2006, 03:13 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
neither are 3rd. 3rd ed magic book was Magic in the Shadows.
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Nov 24 2006, 03:14 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
The Grimoire was published for 1st edition and again for 2nd edition. Awakenings was published for 2nd edition.
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Nov 24 2006, 06:39 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
My copy of The Grimoire is for SR2. The deal is, there's a huge used-book store near me, and since I'm basically flat broke ATM, I've been trading in books that I don't read or use anymore for credit. I may not be getting the latest and greatest, but overall it's not a bad arrangement.
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Nov 24 2006, 06:45 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Absolutely nothing wrong with either of those books. Thers is some great flavor contained amongst those pages.
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Nov 24 2006, 07:06 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
What does Awakenings have? Is it basically a SOTA book?
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Nov 24 2006, 07:54 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Sort of. Since the Grimoire was the main magic book, it was a combination of SOTA (new metamagics, adept powers, stuff like that) and a bunch of in-character flavor text about growing up magical, life as a magicians, fighting magical threats (to runners, so cops and corpsec), and so forth. There was also a large middle section which introduced Voudoun, first IC and then followed by a pretty lengthy rules section.
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Nov 24 2006, 07:59 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 7,116 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 1,449 |
It had new adept powers, new spells, and new archetypes, so it had more "meat" to it than a typical SOTA book - it was more like a second sourcebook. Lots of shadowtalk (which is something I miss), and the section on Voudoun was much more detailed and interesting than the more cursory treatment that it would receive in later editions.
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Nov 24 2006, 08:36 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
Yeah, our primary design goal with Street Magic was to basically condense the rules section of Awakenings into a manageable package. Ultimately, I think Peter and I succeeded.
That being said, there wasn't nearly enough space in Street Magic to do justice to the in-character section of that book. As such, I still think Awakenings is a great resource for Shadowrun. It's not just hubris that makes me say that I think the 4th edition rules handle Voodoun in a better way, I honestly think that in eleven years of hindsight we managed to pare down the rules a bit to cover the requisite effects with less rules - but this remains the source material for that tradition in the Shadowrun world. Everything we write about it now goes back and looks at Awakenings for versimilitude. And hey, the story of Azroth the God is wicked sweet. -Frank |
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Nov 24 2006, 01:14 PM
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Awakened Asset Group: Members Posts: 4,464 Joined: 9-April 05 From: AGS, North German League Member No.: 7,309 |
My Grimoire is 2nd edition, my second SR rulebook. Good times, alltough Awakenings was much better.
@Frank:Kudos for street magic! Good book. Seeing as the core mechanic of SR is off-limits, I look forward to your next work! |
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Nov 24 2006, 06:50 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
The grimoire must be the most boring RPG book I ever owned. I much prefered reading Rolemaster's damage tables (stuff like 'your bones turn into lead and your blood begins to boil, you are dead in 3 rounds. Until then your are writhing in pain, -50 on all actions' or 'your brain explodes out of your ears. You die instantly').
I was so traumatized by my (german) grimoire, I couldn't even look at the 3rd edition magic rules book. However, I like Streetmagic. |
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Nov 24 2006, 07:07 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
I have 1st ed Grimoire, 2nd ed Grimoire, and 3rd ed MitS. Love 'em.
@Tanegar I have the best luck getting OOP stuff using a combo of Ebay, Amazon, and Stiggybaby. Occasionally I'll see stuff for cheap at some other sites, but those are the holy trinity. 1st rule of OOP shopping is no matter how good the deal or low the price, check everywhere else anyway before you buy. I've scored several great SR books for 99 cents + three buck media mail. Mmmm. |
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Nov 24 2006, 10:30 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Lisbon, Cidade do Pecado Member No.: 185 |
I know all the authors and I would dearly have liked to include more fiction throughout Street Magic, but it simply wasn't feasible with the space we had to work with (people tend to overlook the fact that SR4 and Street Magic condense and update most of the magic rules that were spread out over 6-7 old books in a single volume). That said, I'm very happy with all the fiction that we turned in. We're looking forward to giving you more of the same in upcoming books. |
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Nov 24 2006, 11:51 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
You didn't miss anything. |
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Nov 24 2006, 11:51 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,654 Joined: 29-October 06 Member No.: 9,731 |
@eidolon
Dude, you rock so hard. I didn't even know about Stiggybaby. |
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Nov 25 2006, 01:02 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,379 Joined: 16-April 02 From: the LI shadows Member No.: 2,607 |
Thanks for the clarification, AH. 8) |
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Nov 25 2006, 01:11 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
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Nov 25 2006, 05:34 PM
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ghostrider Group: Retired Admins Posts: 4,196 Joined: 16-May 04 Member No.: 6,333 |
I try. ;) Stiggy is great, primarily because they don't jack up prices for things that are "rare" and "hard to find". If they get a used book, they go "well, this used book sold for 15 bucks, but it's used, so we're going to charge 6 bucks". Their stock seems to change pretty often too. edit: Oh, and if I find out that any of you have bought a book out from under me at Stiggy's...well, let's just say that I know a guy that knows a guy. :D ;) |
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