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post Dec 6 2006, 03:40 AM
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I know quite a few people that have taken a REAL liking to sniper rifles, sometimes over the ever-popular Panther Assault Cannon. A little looking revealed that, unlike Assault Cannons, there are fewer restrictions on the use of Sniper rifles in SR4 than there are IRL. Ammo is easier to get, the DV and AP are quite nice, and under SR4, the weight and lack of concealability are not a real issue any more.

First, I must point out that many sniper rifles used in reality are simply accurized versions of other rifles. In SR terms, they are Sport or Assault rifles with better tolerances. What SR4 calls a Sniper Rifle is what real life would likely call an Anti-Material Rifle. Long barrel, large bullet (.50 BMG, 14.7mm, etcetera), bipod... and rather unusable unless the firer is prone.

This prompted the following house rules for Sniper Rifles:

- Any attack made with a Sniper Rifle suffers a -2 dice penalty unless a Complex Action is spent to drop prone and rest the weapon on it's bipod or similar rest. Without the stabilizing effect of an appropriate rest, natural tremors in the human musculature interact badly with the floating barrel or some other detrimental thing that is equivalent in game terms.

- Sniper Rifle ammo is 10x cost and +4 Availability. Large caliber rounds manufactured to specs sufficient to maintain accuracy at extreme ranges are neither cheap nor easy to find. I don't think 200 :nuyen: and availability 6R for normal .50 BMG rounds (or their 2070 equivalent) is unreasonable.
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- jervinator   A munchkin's best friend?   Dec 6 2006, 03:40 AM
- - Charon   QUOTE (jervinator @ Dec 5 2006, 10:40 PM) Fir...   Dec 6 2006, 04:05 AM
- - warrior_allanon   this is why my team specced out a panther assault ...   Dec 6 2006, 04:21 AM
- - ixombie   My big question is how you know that sniper rifles...   Dec 6 2006, 04:23 AM
- - kzt   You can also get rid of the stupid "telescopi...   Dec 6 2006, 04:25 AM
- - jervinator   Let us think about think for a moment about what a...   Dec 6 2006, 04:42 AM
- - toturi   If you want to Realism the sniper rifle in SR4, yo...   Dec 6 2006, 04:56 AM
- - Jack Kain   AP is more about the design of the gun and the amm...   Dec 6 2006, 05:21 AM
- - Garrowolf   kzt - what problem do you have with the range and ...   Dec 6 2006, 05:33 AM
- - jervinator   KZT - I almost forgot...I thought the point of tel...   Dec 6 2006, 05:40 AM
- - Jack Kain   As I understand it the purpose of telescopic sight...   Dec 6 2006, 05:43 AM
- - Lord Ben   What exactly is the problem you're having with...   Dec 6 2006, 05:53 AM
- - Charon   QUOTE (kzt @ Dec 5 2006, 11:25 PM) You can al...   Dec 6 2006, 06:57 AM
- - Clyde   Once, in an SR3 game, I saw a player who had his c...   Dec 6 2006, 06:58 AM
- - Charon   QUOTE (Clyde @ Dec 6 2006, 01:58 AM) Of cours...   Dec 6 2006, 07:03 AM
- - Fortune   QUOTE (Clyde)Address it at that level and you can ...   Dec 6 2006, 07:04 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Garrowolf) kzt - what problem do you have w...   Dec 6 2006, 07:06 AM
- - Fortune   So how do you handle Vision Magnification then? Es...   Dec 6 2006, 07:14 AM
- - Kesslan   Also on the subject of firing from the shoulder, t...   Dec 6 2006, 07:17 AM
- - Ryu   I don´t get the problem with sniper rifles, but an...   Dec 6 2006, 09:07 AM
- - Kesslan   To be honest I dont see the problem with sniper ri...   Dec 6 2006, 10:03 AM
- - toturi   QUOTE I mean IRL now I can legally own a lisenced ...   Dec 6 2006, 10:37 AM
- - Fortune   There are official 'laws' passed by the Co...   Dec 6 2006, 11:02 AM
- - ElFenrir   I think some Sniper Rifle problems come from ...   Dec 6 2006, 12:52 PM
- - hyzmarca   Of course the Stuffer Shack is extraterritorial. B...   Dec 6 2006, 01:15 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (ElFenrir)I mean, they tend to be about as l...   Dec 6 2006, 01:19 PM
- - ElFenrir   As for above, i recall reading that was the street...   Dec 6 2006, 01:23 PM
- - Ryu   Three characters in our group possess sniper rifle...   Dec 6 2006, 01:24 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   The semi-automatic .50 BMG M107 Barrett could be c...   Dec 6 2006, 01:40 PM
- - X-Kalibur   Personally, I hope Arsenal has an Anti-material ri...   Dec 6 2006, 05:49 PM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Not that that'd ma...   Dec 6 2006, 06:24 PM
- - Austere Emancipator   Sure there are freak calibers out there, and some ...   Dec 6 2006, 08:40 PM
- - Lord Ben   .500/465 Nitro Express costs about $70 per bu...   Dec 6 2006, 11:55 PM
- - jervinator   Part of the issue is the depiction of Sniper Rifle...   Dec 7 2006, 01:25 AM
- - Lord Ben   How have they been abused ingame? Lots of things ...   Dec 7 2006, 01:31 AM
- - jervinator   Turning around and using them in the same manner a...   Dec 7 2006, 03:10 AM
- - Lord Ben   Yeah, but I meant ingame abuses. Are your PC...   Dec 7 2006, 03:19 AM
- - jervinator   I was speaking of in game abuses! As for the ...   Dec 7 2006, 04:02 AM
- - Crusher Bob   Sinper rifles are can still put up with plenty of ...   Dec 7 2006, 04:15 AM
- - Lord Ben   I don't see how ammo costing 1 per shot instea...   Dec 7 2006, 04:44 AM
- - Lord Ben   The sawed off elephant gun pistol loaded with EXEX...   Dec 7 2006, 04:45 AM
- - Marmot   People may just be a little disappointed that the ...   Dec 7 2006, 04:47 AM
- - Lord Ben   Apparently in SR3 before I joined the current grou...   Dec 7 2006, 04:52 AM
- - Kesslan   QUOTE (toturi) QUOTE I mean IRL now I can legally ...   Dec 7 2006, 06:28 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (jervinator)But HMGs have shorter ranges tha...   Dec 7 2006, 06:50 AM
- - Kesslan   QUOTE (jervinator) Part of the issue is the depict...   Dec 7 2006, 06:50 AM
- - Kesslan   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) QUOTE (jervinator)But ...   Dec 7 2006, 06:59 AM
- - Marmot   QUOTE (Kesslan) The average sniper rifle uses a re...   Dec 7 2006, 07:30 AM
- - Kesslan   QUOTE (Marmot) QUOTE (Kesslan @ Dec 7 2006, 0...   Dec 7 2006, 07:38 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   Match grade ammunition can certainly have a notice...   Dec 7 2006, 08:14 AM
- - Kesslan   QUOTE (Austere Emancipator) Match grade ammunition...   Dec 7 2006, 08:33 AM
- - jervinator   QUOTE Actually short range or not handguns IRL suf...   Dec 8 2006, 01:49 AM
- - Kesslan   QUOTE (jervinator) QUOTE Actually short range or n...   Dec 8 2006, 04:59 AM
- - kzt   QUOTE (Kesslan) [QUOTE=jervinator,Dec 7 2006, 08:4...   Dec 8 2006, 05:16 AM
- - Kesslan   QUOTE (kzt) Depends on how you define "short...   Dec 8 2006, 05:25 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   QUOTE (jervinator)I was under the impression that ...   Dec 8 2006, 07:17 AM
- - Kesslan   Yeah on the MG issue I find its generally that way...   Dec 8 2006, 08:11 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   Coming up with actual caliber equivalences that fi...   Dec 8 2006, 08:22 AM
- - Kesslan   True enough and under SR3 you could put the hurt o...   Dec 8 2006, 09:17 AM
- - Austere Emancipator   What I was getting at is that the HMGs in Shadowru...   Dec 8 2006, 11:37 AM
- - jervinator   I miss Cannon Companion when at least thing made s...   Dec 9 2006, 04:34 AM
- - Kesslan   Aye, I'm looking forward to Aresnal myself. I...   Dec 9 2006, 05:01 AM
- - Big D   There's still Auto Assault-12, which AFAIK is ...   Dec 9 2006, 05:07 AM
- - Kesslan   Ah well either way I'm all for more ways for p...   Dec 9 2006, 05:09 AM
- - jervinator   I don't like disallowing anything I feel is te...   Dec 9 2006, 05:21 AM
- - Kesslan   Yeah, I've used generic gear build systems for...   Dec 9 2006, 05:32 AM
- - Lord Ben   I personally hate game systems with a high degree ...   Dec 9 2006, 05:35 AM
- - jervinator   By that logic, all cars would be Ferraris... and h...   Dec 9 2006, 06:04 AM
- - Kesslan   Yeah CC was a great book. ANd you could build a ...   Dec 9 2006, 06:26 AM
- - Crusher Bob   The problem is not with gun customization, but the...   Dec 10 2006, 04:20 AM
- - Lord Ben   QUOTE (Crusher Bob) Why would a PC spend 2000Y on ...   Dec 10 2006, 04:39 AM
- - Crusher Bob   Yes, but combined with the ludicrously low suggest...   Dec 10 2006, 04:53 AM
- - jervinator   I always felt that most of the weapons were interc...   Dec 10 2006, 05:00 AM
- - Lord Ben   I'm just saying that in any world with competi...   Dec 10 2006, 05:07 AM
- - jervinator   The burst-capable one with the smartlink, RC 2, an...   Dec 10 2006, 05:13 AM
- - Lord Ben   Sure, but one of them might feel better in your ha...   Dec 10 2006, 05:16 AM
- - jervinator   I want the best compromise between cost and qualit...   Dec 10 2006, 05:28 AM
- - Lord Ben   Well sure, there are some standards of performance...   Dec 10 2006, 05:34 AM
- - jervinator   I am modest in my firearms needs; I am secure in m...   Dec 10 2006, 06:00 AM


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