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post Dec 17 2006, 07:32 PM
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Your Johnsons behave like soccer moms. He walks into the meet wearing his own face and allows himself to be assensed? He arrives in a vehicle the plates of which are linked to his identity? Does he leave a lock of his hair and his personal commlink with pictures of his husband and two kids on the table when he leaves, too?

J.'s are espionage professionals. That's how they got the name Mr. Johnson.

If you believe that all the infos are correct...
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post Dec 17 2006, 07:33 PM
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Now this is seriously bad meet etiquette.

etiquette? it's just plain stupid.
Anyone know any business that threatens it's customers in order to gain profit?
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post Dec 17 2006, 07:35 PM
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Assensing reveals information about implants, drugs, emotional state. It detects any active spells and the astral signature of those spells. It sees through disguises, it reveals if the J. is in fact a spirit, a hologram, a shapechanger, or any other damn thing. It allows the magician to recognize the J. in the future. It's a totally unacceptable amount of information to let leak.


A J would not care if you knew he was a hologram. Anyone can figure that out the a normal perception test. And if he was a shapeshifter trying to be in cognito... wait, is there such a thing as a shapeshifting Johnson? o.O What would be the point of a corp hiring a shapeshifter to be a J? And why would a shapeshifter, generally a fugitive from the law because he's not considered a sentient being with rights, risk hiring a shadowrunning team?

Assensing is not easily detectable, and it's a tool that both sides have. The J will have you assensed if possible to learn every detail about you. If you don't do the same back, why would he trust that you can do the job? A team that doesn't use all its resources and gain all the info it can is not a good team. The only time the J would be averse to assensing is if a) he is setting you up and b) he is nervous enough about it that you can detect the emotion in his aura and it will arouse your suspicions.

Assensing isn't a mind probe spell. Now, actually casting spells on the J, THAT would be bad.
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post Dec 17 2006, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE (djinni @ Dec 17 2006, 02:33 PM)
Anyone know any business that threatens it's customers in order to gain profit?

Well, the Protection racket business, definitely.

Also, the Loan shark business and the drug business when it's time to collect.

Hey, you asked!
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post Dec 17 2006, 07:38 PM
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QUOTE (ixombie @ Dec 17 2006, 02:35 PM)
And why would a shapeshifter, generally a fugitive from the law because he's not considered a sentient being with rights, risk hiring a shadowrunning team?

I can remember a Johnson that was an Eagle Shapeshifter hiring out runner in exchange for orichalcum in an official adventure. Something to do with the environment, of course. His home was threatened. I think it was the campaign that dealt with NAN but I'm not sure.

There are uncommon J once in a while to shake things up.

Oh, and of course the adventure assumed it was likely that the PCs would assense Johnson and that the mage would be good enough to notice it was an Eagle shapeshifter. Because, you know, assenssing is part of the game. They just added some comment on how Johnson would react if his secret came out.

EDIT : Yep, it's the Native Americans Nations : volume two. The Johnson is an Eagle shapeshifter called farseer and even though he comes to the meet as a human it's pretty much considered par for the course that the PCs will figure out his true nature.

Fun adventure, too. Take the PC on quite a joyride. It's like a road movie with indians, eco-terrorists and toxic shamans. Whee.
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post Dec 17 2006, 08:36 PM
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What are the stats for shapechangers?
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post Dec 17 2006, 09:06 PM
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There aren't any. Not in 4th.
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post Dec 17 2006, 09:23 PM
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What are the stats for shapechangers?

Make him a wuss that regenerates and you'll be close to the spirit of the SR3 rules! ;)

Seriously, these guys where only really bad ass when under the pen of a SR novellist, like Stryper.

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post Dec 17 2006, 09:57 PM
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Eugene has a point. Players who insist on making the meet a tactical situation are blowing up a lot of game time over nothing.


If they plan out every little detail yes but they dont want the "J" to screw them either. My players dont spend tooo much time going over planning the meet. They just fairly quickly who goes in, who doesnt, who is going to be where. If they didnt plan that out I would throw in a bad guy(s) that attack or screw the players. As long as the players take reasonable precautions, I dont screw with them unless it is part of the plot.

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