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 Dec 21 2006, 12:06 AM
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Horror  Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445  |
And I thought Aztechnology had good spin-doctors. They need to hire you, Frank.
You've manged to spin the one confirmably beneveloent creature and entity in the Sixth World into the Pure Evil of Our Times. (Or rather, the Times after Our Times.) I'll bet you could make the Care Bears look like the Third Reich. |
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Dec 21 2006, 12:10 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
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Dec 21 2006, 01:41 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
It's nice to know all the time I spend here goes to some good every once in a while.
Bene ... ben... be... BWAAAHAHAHAHA. If nothing else, the most giving philanthropists and foundations have, to a person/sponsor, been funded through the stomping of boot heels to heads (for the Rockerfellers, this is literal). The DF is no different. See, the one thing that keeps me from making the DF balls-out pure evil is that I've always deferred to others about magic. So I honestly never thought about the blood mage angle, or can't see how they exploit the toxic shamans/mages (although I bet it's something good). However, I'd like to think that they are using Apep as an intermediary, since Dunk and the people now running the foundation weren't/aren't stupid. |
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Dec 21 2006, 01:50 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Dammit. Double post.
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Dec 21 2006, 01:50 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Confirmably benevolent? Have you read his Will? :eek:
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Dec 21 2006, 02:08 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
What is this ben-ev-o-lent that you speak of?
yeah, I love how things that seemed so wonderful at first get completely twisted around in practice. Art Dankwalther. And Ryan Mercury of course. He was so nice when we'd never heard of him. Oh and that "token of esteem" to that Glenn guy. :P |
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Dec 21 2006, 02:16 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
I don't imagine we'll be seeing him again any time soon. He's either dead, looking for Nadja, or sitting next to her on a beach in Perth admiring sunsets. |
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Dec 21 2006, 02:21 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I like to tell my self that Axler offed him and took over Assets Inc personally.
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Dec 21 2006, 02:50 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Well, I never offered up an explanation for how he'd have died.
Although I've never been part of the "I Hate Ryan Mercury" camp, so I'd rather it be options two or three. Death is always so limiting for plot characters. OTOH, it's a lot of fun. But I can kill plenty of NPCs and get the same feeling. |
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Dec 21 2006, 03:00 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
If he's next to her on a beach, I garuntee it's not the sunset that he's admiring. It's probably something significantly smaller (than a sunset, at least). And brown. |
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Dec 21 2006, 03:04 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 600 Joined: 31-August 05 Member No.: 7,659 |
Who are these people?
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Dec 21 2006, 03:13 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
*Whoosh* Try again. |
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Dec 21 2006, 03:21 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Ryan Mercury is the protagonist from the Dragon Heart series that deals with the death of Dunkelzhan, and IMO, a big ugly Mary Sue plot device that has served it's function and should be moved on (off the mortal coil). I'm personally all for NPC and PC deaths, mostly because when you see the same names all the time with no change, it seems to promote the status quo, where when people kick it, like the good Captain, it reminds you (and you're PC) just what can and will happen if you keep sticking your head to far out. It makes the world more fluid and alive IMO. |
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Dec 21 2006, 03:25 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
I still say that Captain Chaos is not dead, he's just evolved into a (Ghost in the) Machine Spirit.
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Dec 21 2006, 03:30 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
why Machine, why not Data?
Even if you're right, it still serves the same person, if not OOC, at least IC. Still bugs me that Dunkie is still "alive" after a fashion. If he was a spirit stuck in a zombie, I figure he'd either try and get back, or try to move on. Had a GM with an interesting plot where he destroyed the cyber zombie, then put his essence into Nadja Daviar using a version of the ED Mystic Vessel spell, then transferred his essence to a fetus once she got knocked up by Ryan. under the assumption that a drake is made from dragon blood (Book of Blue spirits being a blood ritual of some sort, once again assumption, similar to the ED spell create life), using said blood to be born again into the world as a "human" with the ability to use his potential to become a dragon again. All without Nadja and Ryan's knowledge of course. Interesting idea I thought. Wonder why Nadja dropped out of sight? Pregnant maybe? |
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Dec 21 2006, 04:02 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
The thing is that he worked damn hard to be in exactly the position he is in. Why would he want to change that now? |
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Dec 21 2006, 04:50 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
Well, there is a group of Technomancers in Runner Havens taking order (or something like that) from a guy they call The Captain. Plus as it said in the will the Draco Foundation is to take care of the guy in case the program did something to him. Hell, maybe we'll find out more in Emergence or Unwired. |
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Dec 21 2006, 04:53 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 470 Joined: 2-January 05 From: Quebec Member No.: 6,924 |
Theywere actually communists. Or was that the Smurphs? |
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Dec 21 2006, 05:00 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,526 Joined: 9-April 06 From: McGuire AFB, NJ Member No.: 8,445 |
The Smurphs were polygamists. All those male smurphs and only Smurphette?
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Dec 21 2006, 05:54 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 732 Joined: 1-December 06 Member No.: 10,116 |
I'd like to agree with you, to me the bit where he 'dies' and is 'saved' seems to me to be from his sort of viewpoint, and I really dont think Cap is the type to suicide by saying yes to deletion. As for the DF... I dont know. It's really hard to say what the hell the deal is there. Also it's very hard to say just how much Art's little shinanigans were actually planed out by the big D. Yes, he gave him totally crazy sums of money. But he didnt really 'snap' untill he finally met up with Richard at the very party Art was hosting. Of course there -is- that twist fate power dragons have, so who knows? I'm also not quite sure I'd cout art out of the picture just yet. He could very well be, but the fluff around that certainly leaves the outcome rather... open. From what I understand, the big D becomming a spirt wasnt actually something he planned. I really should try to get the books covering that though and read em myself since the only info I have of that is off various SR timelines posted on the net. I wasnt even aware, untill quite recently that is, that he even -was- a spirit. Much less had arranged for his own death. |
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Dec 21 2006, 09:46 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Banned Posts: 3,732 Joined: 1-September 05 From: Prague, Czech Republic Member No.: 7,665 |
I do write Aztechnology press releases.
Behind every great philanthropy is a great fortune. Behind every great fortune is a great crime.
That happened to some people, but the Captain was fairly convincingly deleted.
Interesting. But he made the Dragon Heart, I don't see how he could persist outside of a cyberzombie. He is dead, he can't get around that if he's in a bod which is normally alive.
The Care Bears are militant defenders of the status quo. People who are deemed insufficiently content with the current administration get "the stare" until they evidence behavior consistent with being happy with the government. In short, the Care Bears travel in groups to assesss the opinions of people in the world and use thought control and laser beams on any citizens they find with dissident view points. They are an elite force of thought police who force the have-nots to accept the positions of their own under priviledged selves and the extractive Care Bear Government that keeps them down in the first place. Care Bears produce nothing except "joy" which is itself a hollow sham that is forced upon the public with Care Bear Chest Beams. The Care Bear regime is by any measure a sick joke: no elections (the leader of the Care Bears is decided by "acclimiation" after testing the strength of their mind control powers), a GDP you could lose in a sock drawer, and not even so much as a dedicated oppostion. And yet, the Care Bear Regime boasts an approval rating of one hundred percent - since of course anyone who voices disapproval is either re-educated or dissappeared altogether. Making the Care Bears look like the Third Reich isn't even hard. Hitler would have wet himself over the things that Care Bears do every day. -Frank |
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Dec 21 2006, 09:51 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
And this is exactly why nothing written by FrankTrollman should be taken with any dosage of salt smalelr than that carried in a post-Panamax supercarrier. |
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Dec 21 2006, 11:41 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Shadowrun is dystopian future, never forget that. ;)
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Dec 21 2006, 03:07 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 18-September 06 From: Chicago (CZ) Member No.: 9,422 |
Does anyone know if the 2070 Corp book is going to include organizations like the DF and AF? Is it going to go more in depth about A's AA's and detail more about AAA's? (obviously AAA's).
I'm hoping it gets set up by the other upcomming releases. My Favorate crop to hate is Ares since the bug thing and the desolation of Chicago (ONLY THE GREATEST CITY ON EARTH!). Although the man behind ares kicks ass I still want his head on a stick, or for him to get even more powerful by soaking up Serephim from Cross. I cant belieive the writers bailed out Detroit. Michigan as a state is an armpit of blue collar working class poverty (or so it seems). Trans is everyone's favorate and I look forward to seeing the three man dance with one of the worlds most powerful men and the laid back dragon (oh and dont forget the other dragon in the machine probably behind the scens). Azzies well there the Azzies and got screwed dealing with a few dragons. But now that dukies gone and they executed one I think there on the road to victory once more and excited to see what happens. My Sleeper is Wuxing because there overdue for a bit of a beat down. Everything has gone there way and something is going to come out of it sooner or later. I am anxious to see short, meduim, and long term plots set up in the book and also the kind of personalities that corps now have as a result of the crash. So to Frank, Synner, James and everyone else..... spit hot fire on the pages and bring that biach out! |
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Dec 21 2006, 03:49 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,078 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 67 |
Dunk wasn't running Aztechnology, though he was definitely sitting on the Board. The rumors of the evil dragon running the show have not gone away with the Big D's death and reappear in Shadows of Latin America. Of course, since we know Dunk was on the Board, you would think he'd be aware of who/what was running the show at AZT. And you'd have to wonder why he allowed it to continue. But then again, Dunkelzahn always did have a different way of dealing with things than his brother does. |
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