 Martin de Vries, anyone got paydata on this vamp? |
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 Dec 23 2006, 09:24 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950  |
Okay, so I'm starting a new SR campain, and it may or may not go to the epoch level. The las one certainly did...
Anyway, one of the NPCs is a fixer for the group, who also happens to be a vampire (they don't know this yet.) At some point, I'd like to have him send them on a run to... borrow de Vries' Essence Focus. Any info/referances on this guy? I know he is a vampire and a vampire hunter, but physical description, magical abbility, lifestyle? Thanks chummers. |
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Dec 23 2006, 09:36 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
The Terminus Experiment. fun read, though it villainizes vampires too much.
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Dec 23 2006, 09:45 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950 |
Isn't that the one with the vampire with cyberware?
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Dec 23 2006, 10:28 PM
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Dec 24 2006, 12:55 AM
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Mr. Quote-function Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 1,317 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Somewhere in Germany Member No.: 1,376 |
Among other things ... |
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Dec 24 2006, 01:21 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
There is a write up on him in Prime Runners, page 14.
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Dec 24 2006, 02:56 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950 |
Thanks. :-)
I'm ordering a copy of prime runners. What grade initiate should I make him? Weve had peopleget up to grade.. 6 I think, though it may have been higher. (300 karma and you are a physad... whata ya gonna do?) I'm glade de Vries isn't the one with cyberware, I'd have to kill him on principle. |
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Dec 24 2006, 03:50 AM
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Free Spirit Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,950 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Bloomington, IN UCAS Member No.: 1,920 |
They list him as a grade 3 initiate in '55.
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Dec 24 2006, 09:04 PM
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King of the Hobos Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,117 Joined: 26-February 02 Member No.: 127 |
If you want to make it really epoch level then tinker around with the stats a little and make him a physical magician. A vampire physical magician, fully loaded on blood, with the right adept powers and the shielding metamagic is an incredibly powerful guy to go up against. There was a thread about it earlier in year I remember.
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Dec 24 2006, 10:34 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Don't. |
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Dec 24 2006, 10:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 288 Joined: 7-December 04 Member No.: 6,873 |
Amen to that, god that book sucked. |
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Dec 25 2006, 05:50 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950 |
Don't suppose it's archived somewhere? |
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Dec 25 2006, 03:49 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 831 Joined: 5-September 05 From: LAX, UCAS Member No.: 7,687 |
I dunno - I kinda liked PR [shrug] |
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Dec 26 2006, 10:01 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950 |
:-) Then I'd have to rename him Munchkin. Kidding aside, my intention is not for them to kill him. They in fact, will be instructed NOT to kill him. I was actually going to make it a two part run, one to get the focus for Mortax to study, the other run to get it back, all with it being non traceable. hmmm, wonder where e's living these days and what it is like...... |
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Dec 26 2006, 07:54 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
Prime Runners was good IF, and it's a big if, you've got the cash to spare. it's pure role stuff with lots of details about what the big movers and shakers are supposed to be like. I wouldn't necessarily trust it for stats though.
Terminus Experiment was well. let's just say it left a lot to be desired. Like maybe 4 more re-writes. Cybered vampire hoards who were cut down in swaths by lesbian strippers and then.... well, you get the idea. |
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Dec 26 2006, 08:00 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
To be fair, they forgot the Skills for only one character. But the bigger problem is that it's, "what the big movers and shakers are supposed to be like." However, none of the characters in the book mean shit. They were Sargent's & Gasciones's pet NPCs (Michael Sutherland being the most obvious) from their novels and sourcebooks (remember, these two were the authors of the London SB). The only good thing in that book is the reference to the Spinrad scandal. |
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Dec 26 2006, 08:09 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
They would have been the pet NPC's of pretty much anyone who wrote the book. The risk is if osmeone thinks they are the only big players. I used them as examples of what the players can encounter
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Dec 26 2006, 08:34 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Perhaps, but I was around back when the name and summary were being banded about on the AOL forums when Dowd, Findley, et al. posted and used it as a de facto official forum. The characters in the book were most definitely not expected, and not wanted. In the last decade, they have AFAIK never been appreciated, nor wanted.
You know who people wanted in the book. What was given were stats for novel characters and fucking Rhonabwy. |
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Dec 26 2006, 10:32 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
The two that stick out in my memoriey were the reporter- Madeline something, and the sports agent, tres D ?
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Dec 27 2006, 12:05 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Plus the P.I., the trid reporter and his cameraman, the bounty hunter, the vampire hunter, the rigger/mechanic. the great dragon, the novelist, the decker, the pseudo-otaku, the talismonger, the cybertech designer and the cybertechnology "fixer," the football player, the contract specialist, the wannabe shadowrunner, the gangbanger chess master, the three troll criminals, the elven assassin, the ork serial killer, the ex-spy terrorist, the SR version of Carlos the Jackal - off the top of my head.
I will give credit where credit is due and admit that the people who wrote Shadows of Europe did a very good job of integrating the crap in it, and making it into something useful. BTW, does anyone see any "Prime Runners" in that list? |
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Dec 27 2006, 12:18 AM
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Mystery Archaeologist Group: Members Posts: 2,906 Joined: 19-September 05 From: The apple tree Member No.: 7,760 |
The elven assassin was cool as a concept, I had to restat him alot to make him as challenging as he should be... but hey He was a cool scary geezer.
Okay most of the rest was complete poo, Sutherland is the only one I've ever used (I think) and that was due to later Wuxing connections. Oh and Sukie Redflower (the motor mouth mage) seems to have a Trid/sim series in 2070 it's advertised in Street Magic. |
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Dec 27 2006, 04:27 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Shame it's not a bullet in her brain.
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Dec 27 2006, 03:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 831 Joined: 5-September 05 From: LAX, UCAS Member No.: 7,687 |
There we go again - I kinda liked Sukie. I did wish the book detailed folks like Wedge, Fastjack, Hatchetman, etc instead of some of the more riff raffy individuals detailed - like Rhonabwy ;)
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Dec 27 2006, 04:43 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
The hatred for SR4 cannot compare. People were pissed.
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Dec 28 2006, 06:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 112 Joined: 27-January 06 Member No.: 8,205 |
Think he went to Africa...
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