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> So, what do cars run on in 2070?, Oil? Electricity? Soylent Ork?
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post Dec 26 2006, 12:41 AM
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Just a thought, but one reason why everyone has to eat soylent ork, or more commonly soy-everything, could be that so much landmass is taken up with fuel crops, for the manufacture of bio-diesal, or whatever. It certainly would leave a lot for cattle farming, etc.
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post Dec 26 2006, 01:37 AM
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Oddly enough, a leading beacon for biodesel is from, I kid you not, chicken feathers.

There's work being done with new sorting technology that can slit the fibrous portion of teh feather from the 'stem', and feathers, currently a major source of irritation as a waste product, could become five to ten times as valuable as teh chicken's meat.

Biofuel from chicken feathers.

Might have it in three years.
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post Dec 26 2006, 01:41 AM
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Damn and here I am allergic to chicken feathers...
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post Dec 26 2006, 01:50 AM
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Soylent chicken feathers? :silly:

Anyway, that's a really cool piece of info, Wakshaani. And a new awesome location for a shadowrun: The chicken farm (or manufacturing plant, I don't think animal rights or free-ranging chickens are that important). Oh, and dedicated chicken departments in corporations. :P
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post Dec 26 2006, 11:57 AM
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Yeah, they've got a way to make teh fibrous part into fiberboard and are just getting the proceedure down in price a bit. In a couple years, they could be replacing fiberglass insulation and car bodies with chicken feather versions of the same.

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Did I mention that agriculture is shockingly cool?
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post Dec 26 2006, 08:56 PM
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There's a number of different alchohol and biodiesel processes that are being developed, including trees. NYC is experimenting with this. I believe the 'waste" wood pulp can be used as filler in various paper products.

For game terms, I generally assume that econo-vehicles rely on GridLink (itself fed by one of the fusion generators or solar satellites), standard vehicles run on "gasahol" (alchohol, liquid propane/methane, whatever is cheapest locally), econo-cargo vehicles (local delivery, busses, etc) are gasahol hybrids, with heavy cargo being (bio)disel and performance gasoline. The basic assumption is that in a world where global shipping can be screwed up by a couple of hungry meta-beasts, regionalized fuel/power production becomes a necessity.

The use of soy became common because the US-NAN wars decimated lots of NorthAm agribusiness while VITAS slaughtered lots of the farmers & livestock worldwide. Soy is pretty easy to produce worldwide, can be processed in automated factories into most forms, and is easily stored & distributed in comparison to meat. Soy can also be used to produce biodiesel.
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post Dec 26 2006, 11:28 PM
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What do cars, in the year 2070, run on?
.............Hopes and dreams?
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post Dec 26 2006, 11:35 PM
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Wheels, Streets? :D
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post Dec 27 2006, 02:29 AM
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There are currently solar cells today that are ~75% effecient and full spectrum. I forgot which brand this was. There is also a "solar cell paint".

Fun stuff. If I get the money to biuld my own house and can afford these cells on my roof I'm all there. The car too.... but with the paint...

Now if only I could remember where I saw those articles...
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post Dec 27 2006, 02:31 AM
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Found that article Here.
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post Dec 28 2006, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE (Xenith)
Found that article Here.

Awesome article! As an engineer IRL I have always been skeptical of the mass use of solar power becuase of the efficiency issues. Now, I will have to rethink that.
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post Dec 28 2006, 06:41 PM
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How about a car that runs on Ed Begley Jr.'s sense of self-satisfaction?
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