 Was Jesus an immortal elf? |
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 Dec 24 2006, 11:03 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 141 Joined: 12-August 05 From: Helsinki Member No.: 7,552  |
Well, was he?
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Dec 24 2006, 11:16 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
Yes. DUH!
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Dec 24 2006, 11:20 PM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
Of course.
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Dec 24 2006, 11:26 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Special Hell, dude.
Special Hell. |
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Dec 24 2006, 11:29 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Damn double-posts.
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Dec 25 2006, 12:23 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
He's just going there because Jesus doesn't want you to know the TRUTH.
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Dec 25 2006, 12:43 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 9-December 06 Member No.: 10,317 |
Why would he need to be? He wasn't around that long. He was born, grew up, smacked some moneylenders around, made some speeches, died, came back, and went away again, all in the space of about 30 years or so. An ork could have managed it. Well, except for the coming back part. |
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Dec 25 2006, 12:46 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 288 Joined: 7-December 04 Member No.: 6,873 |
An Ork shaman could have faked it.
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Dec 25 2006, 01:07 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
Made a deal with the devil... I mean the shedim.
But yeah, Special Hell. Merry Christmas. |
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Dec 25 2006, 01:42 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 126 Joined: 20-December 05 Member No.: 8,088 |
Two words : Vampire Shedim
:D |
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Dec 25 2006, 02:47 AM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
Hmm. I'd go with a Social Adept. Unless we're talking about Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter. In which case he's a regular adept.
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Dec 25 2006, 02:53 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,102 Joined: 23-March 04 From: The Grizzly Grunion, in a VIP room. Member No.: 6,191 |
And here I thought I was the only that had even HEARD of that movie, let alone seen it.
Does that make us really cool or really sad? |
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Dec 25 2006, 03:07 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 565 Joined: 7-January 04 Member No.: 5,965 |
if you want shadowrun cannon herasy....
according to black madona, leonardo davinci is an immortal elf, and he claims taht it was mary magdeline, not jesus, who was the savior. generaly i find the entire idea of immortal elves offensive, and an author trying to put such herasy into canon downright profane. lets face it- jesus was a gmpc, and had access to the coolest homebrew stuff ever. anything in the books a pc may get (let alone read about) is weak in comparison. |
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Dec 25 2006, 03:11 AM
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Canon Companion Group: Members Posts: 8,021 Joined: 2-March 03 From: The Morgue, Singapore LTG Member No.: 4,187 |
The GM is God, remember? Father, Son and the Holy fragging dikoted ally Spirit. |
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Dec 25 2006, 03:21 AM
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Dragon Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019 |
NO! |
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Dec 25 2006, 04:53 AM
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Ain Soph Aur Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,477 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Montreal, Canada Member No.: 600 |
It makes us awesome, my friend. It makes us Awesome. |
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Dec 25 2006, 06:27 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 571 Joined: 9-January 05 From: In the 9th circle of hell Member No.: 6,950 |
...(thud) :rotfl: you get a karma! |
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Dec 25 2006, 06:28 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
No, just a man. A man plus Tempter, that is. ~J, feelin' toasty |
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Dec 25 2006, 04:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 831 Joined: 5-September 05 From: LAX, UCAS Member No.: 7,687 |
Personally, I like the risen Jesus = master shedim theory. Note that Black Madonna did not state that Mary Magdeline was the "savior"* simply that she was the head of the cult/magical group (of which Jesus and John the Baptist were a part) that worshiped the Passion of Knowledge (whom Leo shows as Isis). In essence she was a questor, just like Leo.
* In SR, there IS no savior. The ED conection makes the biblical worldview (ie Genesis - Jesus - Revelations) clearly untrue, thus the concept of a savior becomes irrelevent. And yes, I'll see you all in that special hell ;) 8) |
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Dec 25 2006, 05:08 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Actually, Genesis is perfectly feasible. Nightslayer created the Young Races, who were in a kind of paradise under Nightslayer's protection. Then, one of the Young Races did something that they hadn't done before. Coincidentally, it was at this time that Verjigorm slew Nightslayer, casting the Young Races out of their paradise. The Young Races blamed themselves, passed down a corrupted version of the story via oral tradition, and the rest is pseudohistory.
~J |
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Dec 26 2006, 07:30 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 831 Joined: 5-September 05 From: LAX, UCAS Member No.: 7,687 |
Perfectly feasible as a very, very corrupted (as in corrupted from the actual events) metaphor, yes. But as anything that is literally true or close to such? Not a chance. (I should have been more clear) If Genesis, that is the whole Adam & Eve and the apple thing, never happened, then the need for a literal savior is nil. Plus, since Nightslayer made the Young Races, it kinda puts YHVH out of running for the creator of mankind ;)
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Dec 26 2006, 02:47 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
That said, many Christians believe the creation story was all metaphorical in the first place. In Kage's example, it could simply be said to be a metaphor for a slightly different understanding of the universe (as well as, as a bonus, a corrupted version of literal events, which I don't think the current version can claim).
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Dec 26 2006, 02:57 PM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
Wow... there are people in this thread who will spend their time in hell playing F.A.T.A.L. for whats going on here. Thats a special hell for ya.
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Dec 26 2006, 05:51 PM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,556 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Seattle Member No.: 98 |
If he was an IE, it didn't do him a lot of good.
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Dec 26 2006, 06:28 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Sure it did. He just cast Resist Pain to avoid the discomfort, then cast Hibernate on himself to appear dead for enough time. After waiting for his wounds to heal, he cast Shape Earth to move the boulder out of his way and walked out.
A lot better than dying. ~J |
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