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post Jan 2 2007, 10:15 PM
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OK, here is the updated locations and Cast of Shadows for In With The Family.

IWTF started as a table top game and has since jumped to the forum , so the first 4 or so pages are discussion about the first game ,then the on line bits next.

First we'll start with some of the house rules in effect. Never really formally posted them, so this may be added upon later.

Smartgun link applies to two weapon firing - It makes no sense that the targeting sights that appear in your line of sight suddenly have no effect what so ever because you are using two guns. That rule is gone.

Common Sense Points - A lot of times, people come up with great ideas of hilarious comments in games. Those deserve reqrds, but karma is a bit much. So I reward Common Sense Points (CSP). Essentially, they work the same as karma, but can only be applied to knowledge skills. Knowledge skills are great, but rarely raised, because everyone puts their karma on active skills. This fixes that.

Bad Karma - Doing something very screwed up, like being an major ass, or doing something just plain evil in game, such as raping a goat or stealing candy from babies. That can get you bad karma, which is essentially edge for the opposition.

Edge for NPCs - Everyone has edge. Keep this in mind. It may not be a lot, but it's there.

Soft caps on skills and attributes, no modified max from cyber or magic
Cyber is built in, so it makes no sense that it should stop at 9 for attributes. Same goes for magic. Skills and attributes can go over 7 (after buying Exceptional Attribute or Apptitude), but increase the multiplier by 1 (skills x2 becomes x3 ,etc).

Improved Physical Attribute Adept Power changed
It makes no sense that you can buy cyber and raise atttributes normally, but when you use magic, it costs more to raise the attribute. So it doesn't. It also makes no sense to make it cost 2 magic points once it goes over the normal attribute. So it doesn't. This all seems to be an attempt to nerf physads attributes, when they were already expensive enough to begin with. With powers like Critical Strike, it makes no sense to make normal attributes so much more expensive.

The "Oh Shit!" Card Occassionally you'll have a character that has been around for a long long time , and has used up his/her Hand Of God. I also ignore the rule about being able to use HoG once by brning off a point of Edge. Having 8 HoG's is just ridiculous. But as a happy medium, I use the "Oh Shit!" card.
You can buy one for 50 karma. I also sometimes give one out for birthdays. :D You can basically save your self from one "Oh Shit!" moment by burning the card, such as , say dying. Doesn't come up a lot, but it just might save your llife.

Qualities
---+2 qualities The BBB has qualities that apply a +2 to a number of specializations, such as hacking/exploit. Specilization qualities as we'll call them are available for any non-combat skill, including spellcasting/counterspelling for the same BP/Karma cost.
---Neg Qualities There is not a limit to the Negatvie qualities you can take ,as long as the ones you use aren't ridiculous such as Incompetent:Archery. If you want your character to have a number of crutches, that's just fine. Neg qualities also do not count towards notoriety. The fact that you suck with computers, or are addicted to cigarettes, are not going to make a bit of difference in most social situations.


Cast of Shadows

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post Jan 2 2007, 10:25 PM
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Below is the original front apge, edited down a bit to make this thread start more relevant.
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post Jan 2 2007, 10:33 PM
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Fistandantilus3.0 ; Thanks for re-posting that. (I don't think I should get anti-karma for spelling your handle wrong :D)

Everyone; I still don't see what I'm missing My mind is going in circles still about why the johnson gets extracted all the time and makes his way back.

has anyone found an online SR4 Dice server yet?

Is Lucky working tonight?

Be back in about an hour
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post Jan 3 2007, 12:40 AM
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Don't bring up cyber wear in SR 4 anywere OTP might read it.

Weisenheimer. I now impose a 96 hour morritorium on myself for posting in cyberware threads or starting any of my own. I'll thank you all for your supprt durring my time of trial and deprivation.

(fistandantuleus3.0; you have no idea how timely your comment is, as I spent last night trying to rebuild Belladonna [Supertuesday pp. 51] She's one of my top five favorite published NPC's and she can't exist in SR4 :()

On Topic:

Sin, the DA chick was looking for you at that Punk Bar When was she there in the timeline????

This is important because if she was there before we met the johnson we're in more trouble than I thought. Of course when I say we I mostly mean you, Sin, because you're the one she was asking about. :D Seriously though if she was asking about you before the johnson called us it might mean that she isn't interested in our target at all. Which would be awesome because there wont be any mantis spirits standing between me and my Sweet Sweet 63000¥ payday! MMMM i can just smell that fat credstick :love:
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post Jan 3 2007, 12:45 AM
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okay, time for the recap
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post Jan 3 2007, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE (OTP)
Sin, the DA chick was looking for you at that Punk Bar When was she there in the timeline????


No the next day, after the meet :)

I actually considered watching for any release having anything to do w/ cyber and removing your ability to reply for a day or so when the release comes out. :D

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MMMM i can just smell that fat credstick 

That's the spirit! Now... where's that beta clinic...?
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post Jan 3 2007, 01:23 AM
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QUOTE (fistandantilus3.0 @ Jan 2 2007, 07:47 PM)
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Sin, the DA chick was looking for you at that Punk Bar When was she there in the timeline????


No the next day. :)

I actually considered watching for any release having anything to do w/ cyber and removing your ability to reply for a day or so when the release comes out. :D

ON topic;

Ok so it's not just Sin that the Mantis are after. Now we need to know how she knew him enough to look for him at that bar.
Sin I think ur still pretty screwed.
WTF? Cant you see that these poor lost sheep need my guidance in the interum before Augmentation comes out? I think everyone will agree that my level headed and fair moderation of all subjects cyber is important here on Dumphsock. :D Serbitar just started a thread That NEEDS my input but the poor guy is going to have to wait 5 whole days befor I can help him. :D :D :D

[edit] what the heck happened to my post? the stuf in the quote below on topic wasn't supposed to be in the quote.
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post Jan 3 2007, 01:33 AM
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*deadpan*The poor baby, what ever will he do... */deadpan*

feel free to add anything you think I've missed that's important.

you probably just dropped the quote in to the wrong spot. I'll edit it.
edit: fixed

Think about this. What happened at the meet, where the first Angel showed up. What happened after the meet?
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post Jan 3 2007, 01:59 AM
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Ok This is how I remember it:

I'm watching the johnson walk away into the forrest. I ask if the guys think I should follow him. They say no and I ask them to get me a burger. Next thing I know the biker biff is gone but I didnt hear her start her bike. (later I'm thinking about it and I remember the desolation angels colors she was wearing.) We go to talk and plan on Burbons Barge. I puke up the burger. Jimmy buys me a shot. I go find the team in thier private room and I puke up the shot. To calm my mind and stomach I start playing with Hummpy. Burbon comes in and looks pissed. I get to work and start looking around the matrix for info. I turn up next to nothing. Streak (brian's PC) Serches the whole matrix for the perrenial classic and GM favorite;

"Anything I can find at all, anywhere, without specifying anything that would target my search or using any contact I might have or any of thier contacts."

His logic + google + edge test turns up nothing on Joe Lindon. We give up and Lucky and I go to work the next day where I get her shot to hell because I thought it would look cooler if I stood behind her while guns went off. Also we had pizza for lunch but I didn't have "little aisan girl" for lunch because I was working. ("MMMM little aisan girl" I need to call Ed as soon as we get back to the game.)

more to come.
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post Jan 3 2007, 02:08 AM
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"Anything I can find at all, anywhere, without specifying anything that would target my search or using any contact I might have or any of thier contacts."

:rotfl:

he was searching for Mr Johnson off of just the picture as well.

I mis-remembered, you had started on the Voodoo Queen for your meet up, then headed to the flavors when meeting back up

You're forgetting one little detail about the end of the meet and who did what. maybe you should ask SIN.
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post Jan 4 2007, 12:08 AM
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the end of th meet.

Lucky negotiated for a down of 17.5 k ¥
Sin assenced the johnson and fount him to be norm but nervous
Streak (I'm going to call him Yellow :)) had his bug out in the parking lot watching me and then he called his bug in and parked it.
the johnson waked out of the diner and into the forrest.
the bike and the biff disapeared.
Sin bought me a burger...

! BUT I DIDN'T GET ANY FRIES ! That must be it. The waitress didn't pack fries with my takeout! THAT SLITCH! We need to go back to the diner.
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post Jan 4 2007, 01:12 AM
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yep, that waitress is a biotch. IC, asuming you reviewed the recording, Sin came out and made a call, then went and got you a burger. Then the biker chick was gone.
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post Jan 4 2007, 01:22 AM
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Sin made a call? I don't remember that at all. Who had eyes on Sin. I only recorded lucky's eyecam feed. I'm having a hell of a time keeping track of peoples positions in this game. I wish everyone would pay more attention to stating their locaion and actions. If I hadn't lost track of Lucky in that caison firefight our party would have about 10 more damage boxes than we do now. Why didn't she take a cover action?

"Keep your head down and your bra on." will be my watchword for Lucky as soon as she sobers up.
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post Jan 4 2007, 01:41 AM
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:rotfl:

yeah, Sin stepped out and phoned home, 'cause Serene wasn't there. He was letting her know the scan.

Why didn't she take cover? I don't know, but I bet she will next time. ;)
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Ok that makes no sence. Why not follow us to find out where we're going next?

What's the situation with the cam footage? Do I have access to it or am I going to have to reconstruct the sceen from memory?

When did streak's bug enter the Restraunt?

OoC; it's kind of circumstantial but so far the desolation angel seems to look alot like Vixen from Bug City, Supertuesday, and Shadows of the Underworld. If She's here in NO her career has been too long and I'm tempted to do something about that.

Sin When you see this; I'm working on these questions.

? Why was the DA chick there;
A1, she was following our Johnson
A2. We're back to the idea that she was looking for Sin.

? Why did she leave the meet after seeing you make a call?

? why not follow us?

? What about Sin's past makes him so interesting to the DA's?

Be back in a couple hours.
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post Jan 4 2007, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE (OneTrikPony)
Ok that makes no sence. Why not follow us to find out where we're going next?

How do you know they didn't?
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post Jan 4 2007, 04:57 AM
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"THEY"?
She let herself be seen. FUCK!
Now I feel dumb. I should have looked for the B team. except that they were invisable.

God I hate mages

My tradecraft sucks.
We're all playing tacticly stupid. No one takes observe actions. No one covers. Character A never knows what character B is doing. Character B never talks to character A. We have 1.5 hackers and two halves of a rigger who don't know their jobs. I hope we can keep everyone together long enough to get some teamwork going. If I were playing Tinman He'd have everyone without cyber eyes wearing goggle cams with constant open links and Gumbo would be to worried about security to fuckaround hacking comlinks and makeing trouble.
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post Jan 4 2007, 10:30 PM
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Alright, for starters:
Sins's past is just that, His. ;) It wouldnt be a smart idea to ask him what he has done or what has happened to him. The D. Angels could have noticed becuase he is pretty notorious. His street cred is i think 4, and his notoriety is 3 or 4. Pretty high for a still beggining charactor. Exactly what I wanted when I made him. I understand the consoquences of that as well, so no one should worry.
As for the bugs. It take quite a bit of power to make Sin afraid. Some say his bravery is masked with foolishness, stubborness, and downright insanity. Keep in mind, he is, without a shadow of a doubt...crazy. :D Some man-hating dyke biker wants to brawl, hes game. Even if he knows how strong she is.
Im pretty sure the D. Angels arent bugs. They're has got to be some misunderstanding is to why they attacked Sin, unless his rep got the best of him. But if worse comes to worse, we still need to be prepared with a shitload of guns, magic, and weapon foki. The bug ran when Sin was mounted by the loa, and pulled out his....foki. ;)
But just to be fair, I'll give you a breif outlook on Sin's past.
He doesnt know where he was born, or who his family is. He lived in an orphanage until he was 7. He often got into trouble for playing pranks, some innocent, but mostly cruel. He later learned that his name was Jacob Sinner. (Thus the name, Sin)The origin of this name was exactly as you might think, unknown. As a child he often spoke of a man in a top hat that would come and see him. And often the jokes he played on the headmasters and other children, were blamed on the man in the top hat. He was finally adopted to a family with the last name Micheals. They tried to change his name to that too, but he refused. Sin learned quickly that he was adopted into an abusive home. He still caused trouble and everyday he was beat for it.
When he was 14, his foster father came into his room to smack him around a bit. What his Foster parents didnt know is that Sin had awakened. Sin began casting spells to fight off his foster father and nearly killed him. Though his foster father survived Sins rage, he would never lay a hand on him again. Sin ran away that night. He too, had taken damage from the spells. And was barely concious. He ran until he came across a run down Carnival, or so it seemed. Looking astraly, Sin could tell it was a power site. He aproached and was face to face with a man with a top hat. He seemed famialar, but was not the same man from his childhood. The man took him in and for the next few years tought Sin all he needed to know. He was educated in math, english, history, and all that Jazz. But what he was really taught was how to effectively use his magics. The Ringmaster (man in the top hat) tried his best to channel Sin anger, but was unsucessful in a way. You've all seen him at work, you be the judge.
Remember, in game you dont know this. Sin has told nobody about his past, only bits and peices to Siren, is all anyone really knows. Hopefully this will strike some ideas for you guys is to why these D. Angel biker chicks are lookin for him. But think about this, maybe they're not looking for him, maybe they're looking for someone he knows. Or something he has. Or maybe they are looking for him, but not to kill him. Maybe the chick in the french quarter was only supposed to subdue Sin. Ever think of that?

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post Jan 4 2007, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE (SinN @ Jan 4 2007, 05:30 PM)
Remember, in game you dont know this. Sin has told nobody about his past, only bits and peices to Siren, is all anyone really knows.  Hopefully this will strike some ideas for you guys is to why these D. Angel biker chicks are lookin for him. But think about this, maybe they're not looking for him, maybe they're looking for someone he knows. Or something he has. Or maybe they are looking for him, but not to kill him. Maybe the chick in the french quarter was only supposed to subdue Sin. Ever think of that?

That would go a long way towards explaning why you're alive. In a post above Fistanautilus3.0 said that the Character you fought has more that 3 points of edge. My guess is that she's probably Vixen.

Which brings me to another point. You'll know beter than I do but our (Great-and-wize-and-pretty-darned-atractive-where's-my-ass-kissing-smiley) GM probably doesn't change the universe very much. The Desolation Angels are published as mantis spirits in 5 different books. I'm pretty sure that our DAs are mantis spirits.

Also, I wasn't asking about your past so much as I was trying to ask "have you ever fought with bug spirits before? have you ever pissed of a member of a gyno gang before? In addition to the questions you've brought up; Do you or any of us have something they want or know something they want.

I don't actually think that they're trying to subdue you or capture you. She came on pretty strong for that. ON the other hand you're young and fairly attractive for a breeder ;) maybe she just wanted to make sweet mantis nookie :D

Why would the Spotter at the Diner leave after you made a call?
What rating was your comlink?
Do you think that your comlink was compromised at that point and could the call to Serine have been traced?

They may already know where your family lives. I think you should call in the "Big Gun" to sit on your family as soon as you can get in touch with her.

I can't get it out of my head that Sin, Rock and Lucky were all harrased by a female biker cop on the same day. You should ask B if Sin can remember anything about the cop that rolled up on you in the french quarter. I have Vid of the cop that almost took me and lucky down. We need to compair notes. I know it could just be a cooincidence but I'm starting to see Mantis spirits behind every NOPS helmet.
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post Jan 5 2007, 12:16 AM
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Hmm. Sin as a breeder? Sounds Plausible. Aside from the fact he has an 8 for his Charisma ( a base of 6. with the plus 2 for being an elf) he is becoming a kinda strong mage. Perhaps a pawn, like Oz might want with Sin? I dont think Sin has anything the D. Angels would want.

But it has been confirmed that it is the same NOPS officer, remember? Perhaps, shes with the D. Angels as well. She fits the description. Blonde, man-hating, kinda bitchy. And, as was said before, Rock, Lucky, and Sin were hit by her in the same day. Sounds too much like a coincedence to be one. Either shes with the mob, bugs, or D. Angels. One of these for sure. Im positive.

Any more ideas? Give me somthing to ponder till sunday.

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post Jan 5 2007, 01:18 AM
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Wow! I can't believe I got my racial epithets mixed up. Sorry, Sin is a KEEBLER not a BREEDER. What a silly mistake :D

Here's some more info.

Gulfstar owns and runns the River queen chain of Riverboats. They are mostly restraunts and clubs but some are casino's and brothels. The book says that the Koslowski family has a profit shareing deal with them.

It's interesting that Burbon also has a casino riverboat and she is tied to the Mafia.

The Dragon Perianwyr was a shadowrunner Worked with a guy named Kiel Teller. the two of them were heavy hitters for Aztechnology. They fucked up the Mercurial job and then Fucked up another job. After the second time they were on the run from Aztechnology. Kiel teller owned a club in denver. When he was killed he left the club to the Dragon Perianwyr.

Burbon was a shadowrunner. She also sang in a club in denver and works or has worked for Perianwyr. Burbon either works for Donna Miriam Koslowski the head of the neworleans mafia.

So Gulfstream has ties to the Mob. Burbon has ties to the mob. Burbon has ties to the dragon. The dragon is on an Aztechnology hitlist.

It gets worse. The Azzies are blood mages. The bugs spirits have been working against blood mages since 2052. The funny thing is that the mantis spirits kill other bugs. So who's the bad guy here?

I'm not sure wether we should go ahead with the extraction at this point. I don't think we should be fucking with the bugs even if they are the johnson.

Two problems are that the Mantis' might have operatives in the NOPS. The NOPS now have all the info we have about the extraction. They may have been telling GULFSTAR about the extraction plans. Gulfstar is a partner of My primary employer. Burbon is a partner of My primary employer and thus a partner of Gulfstar.

We need to do Three things

1. Get an astral Look at the target Joseph Lindon

2. Scout the forrest by the diner; without getting into any type of fight

3. Find out what interest the Mantis spirits have in us.

I'm questioning the targets "Fear of Flying" and tuesday meetings with his "psychologist" Could these things be a cover for something else or is B just trying to give us openings for the extraction? Doe's he do adventures that way?

! that's another thing. We can check out the Psychologist. :D who on this team most needs to spend some time with a head shrinker?
(I should have played a decker) If Hardrock dies I'm calling up my old combat decker from UCAS naval inteligence. That was a pretty good character.
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post Jan 5 2007, 05:50 AM
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If anyone needs therapy, its Sin. He wont even have to try and look fucked up. :D
I doubt Anything will happen to Rock. Unless, he keeps up the keeb business. Then Him and Sin will have to tango. Nobody seems to be after Rock and Lucky Directly. Maybe the family, though. Rock might want to watch his ass there. Lucky too.
Perhaps we can set up a therapy session with the doc, and get some info that way. Its a stretch, but its worth a shot for the idea.
Sin still seems pretty screwed, but i got a plan. Im not worried. Neither would Sin. His primary concern is how far the D. Angels are willing to go to get to him. Meaning= His family.
I get the feeling something fucked up is gonna happen. We may call in some back up.
Im positive Bourban wouldnt screw Sin like that. If she knew something, she would tell him. And if it concerened everyone else, he would let them know too. Sin has grown as close to Bourban as anyone else is gonna get. Maybe more. Considering her affection for his children. Especially Gaberialle. And if nothing else, to repay the favor for watching out for her for so long. (When they met, he took it upon himself to destroy an idol controling her. Didnt turn out the way he wanted though. A.K.A Bottled Demon.) Also, clueing her in on Rock and Lucky's plan to take out "a Voodooin in the Bayou." Though they decided not to, its still the thought. And then theres also the fact that they're both children of ways of Loa/Baron. Shes a big beleiver in that we need to look out for eachother. I doubt she'll be much trouble.
I dont know who the bad guys are in this situation. Its definitley not the Azzies, and since when were bugs good? Im not even sure we're the good guys. Personally, Sin has thought from the beggining that someone is playing us. Thats why hes taking so many percausions this whole time. Covering his tracks. (Aside from his stolen com link) But hes got that covered..ish
Would Mancuso or Oz have anything to do with this?
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QUOTE (OneTrikPony)
2. Scout the forrest by the diner; without getting into any type of fight


By the way. Most likely not gonna happen. :D ;)
I know my charactor all to well, and F3.0 too.
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would I throw a fight at you for no good reason? Would I do that? Well, ... maybe.

IIRC, you never did get a good look at the cop that popped a shot off at ya' Sin. Did have enough chance to glance to see taht yes it was a cop, and yes it was a bike cop.
OTP, you guys have the capability to startworking more as aunit, as far as eye cams and such. Remember that in SR4 you can get contacts w/ a frickin' eye cam, and you've got a competent decker.

We are playing on Sunday. Unless Alysha stays really sick. I've had to miss a bunch more work, but I think one Sunday can be ok, as long as I go in on Sunday morning.

You guys are thinking good thoughts now. Just needed to get teh ball rollin' apparently. Good on ya',.

3 CSP for each of ya.
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post Jan 5 2007, 11:33 PM
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I'm just saying that when we go into the forrest we shouldnt attack and if we get attacked we should run away. All we need to do in the forrest is see what's there.

Who has a Contact with the Track skill or outdoors survival skill.

I'm not sure that I will beable to play on sunday. My brother needs some help with his house and if we can't get it done tonight and tomorrow I'm going to have to help him sunday.

thanks for the CSP
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