 If You Lived in Seattle in 2070 ..., What issue would be most important? |
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 Jan 8 2007, 08:01 PM
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Mr. Johnson  Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314  |
Well, my campaign's gotten past November, and my players want to know who the new governor of Seattle is going to be. So, of course, I turn to Dumpshock for its ... special brand of wisdom.
Pick an issue. Any issue. |
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Jan 8 2007, 08:07 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...I would have added one more...
Surviving the day. I would think that is on a lot of Metroplex citizens' minds. |
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Jan 8 2007, 08:42 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
Crap, I forgot Public Safety.
Geez, I feel like Slashdot now ... |
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Jan 8 2007, 09:56 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 101 Joined: 27-October 02 From: Chicago Containment Zone Member No.: 3,504 |
Looks like there's some carryover from the 2006 US midterms into Seattle's election system.
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Jan 8 2007, 09:59 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 6-December 06 Member No.: 10,259 |
Can't you edit the poll and add in Public Safety?
Or ask a mod to do it. Who knows, maybe one will... |
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Jan 8 2007, 10:18 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Poll edited. happy monday!
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Jan 8 2007, 10:19 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 393 Joined: 20-June 06 Member No.: 8,754 |
I voted unemployment. In an age where corporate profit is king, layoffs to protect the bottom line are sure to be on the forefront of the average SINer's mind. And no one wants to live in the barrens.
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Jan 8 2007, 10:34 PM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
I went for succession form the UCAS becuase the trickle down form that sort of change can effect so much.
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Jan 8 2007, 10:39 PM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
"Ethics in public officials"
There's only one way to ensure that, and that's to have public officials mind-probed continiously to ensure all their dealings are aboveboard. |
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Jan 8 2007, 10:55 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...thanks, now I can vote. Yeah, with the various threats in the 6th world & the fact the police are privatised, I'd constantly be looking over my shoulder even on the way down to the corner Stuffer Shack. Don't know who you can trust. |
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Jan 8 2007, 11:16 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 510 Joined: 19-May 06 From: Southern CA Member No.: 8,574 |
How often do public shootouts occur? That would have a direct bearing on whether or not most people would pick public safety as the primary campaign issue. What's the general rate of unemployment? That would directly affect whether or not most people would pick unemployement as the primary campaign issue. Without knowing these things, how can we make an informed decision?
The honesty of elected officials would likely be important, but to most people I don't think it would matter as much as unemployment would. |
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Jan 8 2007, 11:33 PM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Damn you for making us choose between the economy and unemployment like they aren't related.
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Jan 8 2007, 11:51 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 10,416 |
There is such as thing as political ethics, but they are a far cry from traditional ethics. Political ethics would read something like: Do unto others before they do unto you, if it increases personal (and maybe party) power it is good, loudly accuse others of doing what you yourself are doing and hope no one notices, blackmail isn't a crime: it is a way of life, kick an opponent when he's down, etc. Basically take standard ethics and turn them aroun 180 degrees and you have political ethics. |
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Jan 8 2007, 11:57 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 10,416 |
That would depend on where the shootouts happen. In the Barrens, no one would really care. If they happen in Downtown, then there would be a major outcry. Just look at the real world. As long as the violence stayed in the slums or certain crime ridden cities, no one cared. But once it started happening in the merchant districts, then there was a crack down, at least in the commercial areas. This would probably be even more true in SR given that there are slums there that are worse than anything currently in the US. |
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Jan 9 2007, 12:05 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 584 Joined: 15-April 06 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 8,466 |
I don't know, Baltimore always struck me as straight out of Shadowrun. Nice little outlying suburbs. Heroin ravaged inner city with a nice quiet corporate center. Businesses move in, areas gentrify, and the little war zones get even worse because you have more competition. Not a very fun place, but the money was good.
I voted for the economy. If things are booming, unemployment drops, taxes don't seem so bad, street violence tends to drop because you can get a job, corporations make nice with the local government, and on the shadowrunner side of things business increases as corporate greed takes off (not that a shadowrunner would be voting). All around good for the sheep and the wolves. I would have to say that the candidates all seem pretty week, so you might wind up with an incumbent victory, after all the bastard you know is better than the one you don't. |
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Jan 9 2007, 12:44 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...it's not just gunplay. ...There's spellcasting (which is a lot more subtle, for instance, you could be doing something right now that the mage wants ...Terrorism and Sabotage via the Matrix (no longer do terrorists need to physically take over the flight deck of a plane to fly it into a building or the switch house to switch that express train to the wrong track) ...gangs and gang violence appear to be more prevalent in the future (unless you are one of the lucky ones who live in an A rated neighbourhood). ...and again, law enforcement is managed by a "for profit" corporation which only has to worry about the shareholders' interests (see the thread Shadowrun Police, there are some very interesting observations posted). Given my current income level, I most likely would find myself living in a C rated neighbourhood at best. Only if something fairly big happened (like a gang rumble, a firefight, or some wacko peppering the area with grenades) would the Star even consider checking things out. The random mugging? not worth the trouble. Now, make that a random mugging by a Troll against a human. Yeah, you gotta watch your own back. |
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Jan 9 2007, 01:12 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
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Jan 9 2007, 01:15 AM
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Immoral Elf Group: Members Posts: 15,247 Joined: 29-March 02 From: Grimy Pete's Bar & Laundromat Member No.: 2,486 |
I have been waiting just for your response to that post. I was really expecting a bit more ... :( |
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Jan 9 2007, 01:15 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Maybe James is taking the "If you can't say anything nice.." approach
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Jan 9 2007, 01:23 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 249 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Orlando Member No.: 815 |
Money money money...MONEY!
Erk, my voice just cracked trying to hit that high note. Stupid cancer sticks... |
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Jan 9 2007, 01:34 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 10,416 |
Not keen on my cyncial take take on politics? Seems to me that is pretty much how they operate. |
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Jan 9 2007, 02:28 AM
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Shadowrun Setting Nerd Group: Banned Posts: 3,632 Joined: 28-June 05 From: Pissing on pedestrians from my electronic ivory tower. Member No.: 7,473 |
Of course it seems that way. |
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Jan 9 2007, 02:35 AM
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Midnight Toker Group: Members Posts: 7,686 Joined: 4-July 04 From: Zombie Drop Bear Santa's Workshop Member No.: 6,456 |
Given the random encounter rate in the Genesis/Megadrive SR game, I'd say two dozen a day throughout Seatle, give or take a few, with three deaths per shootout, give or take one or two. That adds up to about 73 murders per day or 26,645 murders per year, which is pretty good for a city the size of Seattle. |
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Jan 9 2007, 03:56 AM
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Horror Group: Members Posts: 5,322 Joined: 15-June 05 From: BumFuck, New Jersey Member No.: 7,445 |
Of course, remember that that's 2053.
It's 2070 now, a lot has changed. For one thing, that 2053 adventure is probably a bestselling AR/VR game in 2070. For another, simsense entertainment has never been so accessable, and after years of basically being ignored by Lone Star, the people have probably voted in a politician who made it very clear that if Lone Star didn't do a better job in the D, C and B zones, Knight-Errant was going to be policing Seattle within a year. It's probably safe to walk through a C and up zone at night - not exactly a good idea, but unless you turn down a dark alley you stand no sigifnicant risk of getting mugged. D-zones you're still going to want to not stop rolling in, and have all the windows up. Z-zones, of course, are still warzones. |
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Jan 9 2007, 04:21 AM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
And why not? I built the poll from the information about the election given in Runner Havens. If science fiction is supposed to be a reflection of our own times, I think RH does a pretty good job. |
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