 How does immunity to Normal Weapons work?, Do bullets bounce off or pass through? |
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 Jan 10 2007, 12:25 AM
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Dragon  Group: Members Posts: 4,589 Joined: 28-November 05 Member No.: 8,019  |
In House of the Sun, the bullets fired at the materializing spirits guarding the House of the Sun pass through them without causing harm. But possessed people also have immunity to normal weapons, and I doubt any spirit has enough power to make a person incorporeal at this point in the mana cycle.
So my theory, for the sake of awesomeness, is that the bullets bounce off a badass energy field. |
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Jan 10 2007, 12:28 AM
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Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,526 Joined: 9-April 06 From: McGuire AFB, NJ Member No.: 8,445 |
Why not just let it do the Neo thing and stop the bullets in mid air?
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Jan 10 2007, 12:31 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,206 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Fresno, CA Member No.: 8,856 |
Very well, thank you. |
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Jan 10 2007, 12:53 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
Because that would require the person with the immunity to be aware of the attack in order to be immune. Myself, I just treat it as the thing with immunity is highly resistant to normal damage. Bullets tear through the flesh just fine but the guy just won't die and the fact that he's got all this cavitation in his chest doesn't seem to affect him at all. |
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Jan 10 2007, 02:09 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 31-December 03 From: Shadows of Britain Member No.: 5,944 |
I`d go with...
Whatever feels right for the spirit type/ conditions/ ect of the situation and indeed what ever comes out as the coolest FX. |
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Jan 10 2007, 02:54 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,286 Joined: 24-May 05 From: A 10x10 room with an orc and a treasure chest Member No.: 7,409 |
In Crossroads, the bullets struck the flesh of the possessed body and healed instantly.
In my games I have them hit and ricochet off kinda like bullets bouncing off Superman. |
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Jan 10 2007, 12:50 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,629 Joined: 14-December 06 Member No.: 10,361 |
Really, it's just a game mechanic. Describe it to PC's anyway you want. Obvioulsy it just goes through most air/water/fire elementals, sea spirits etc. With more solid (materialized of course) spirits such as earth elementals, I imagine bullets would just thud into the earth of the spirits body and have no effect, city spirits may have metal and bullets may spark and ricochet off.
As for tangible humanoids... I'd guess zombie ish things would just have chunks blown off and still come at you. I guess you could still make knockdown tests in that case. |
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Jan 10 2007, 01:23 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 9-January 07 Member No.: 10,580 |
psycho is right, in game it happens any way you want, like they would just pass thru air elementals while they would bounce off earth elementals.
if your asking in game stats terms, all it does is double the armor value of the thing that is invulnerable |
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Jan 10 2007, 02:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 31-December 03 From: Shadows of Britain Member No.: 5,944 |
*prods*
Bad bad Celegar. It means that the weapon needs Double the force value of the spirit in its power to harm it. |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:20 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 9-January 07 Member No.: 10,580 |
dependant on whether the question is third or fourth edition is the real issue. becuase acoring to fourth edition and i quote, pg 288 under powers, subsection immunity "a critter with immunity has an enhance resistance to a certain type of attack or affliction. the critter gains an "ARMOR RATING" EQUAL TO TWICE ITS MAGIC AGAINST THAT DAMAGE. this immunity armor is treated as hardened protection, meaning that if the damage value does not exceed the armor then the attck automaticly does no damage.
it works just like normal armor. if you cant do damage greater than the armor, then you cant hurt the creature. of course if the question is in third edition then disreguard. |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:34 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Double+1, actually. ~J |
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Jan 11 2007, 01:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 31-December 03 From: Shadows of Britain Member No.: 5,944 |
Indeed Kagetenshi.
And yes, I was referencing SR3rd edit. Not sure for which Emo was referencing though. |
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Jan 11 2007, 02:52 PM
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Man In The Machine Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 2,264 Joined: 26-February 02 From: I-495 S Member No.: 1,105 |
For the relative newbie, Ill be nice. Please don't come in here sounding like a jerk. You could have saved some typing and said that much less abrasively. Secondly, if you had not noticed yet, there is a pretty large gap between the Sr3 and Sr4 rules, and the players who play on them, and its wise to be considerate of this. On that note, Welcome to Dumpshock. Here is your dikoted ally spirit manifested as an Ares Viper Slivergun, and yes, you can have sex with it. |
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Jan 11 2007, 04:57 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 41 Joined: 9-January 07 Member No.: 10,580 |
i in no way meant to be jerkish, i just misunderstood the premise of the question. however i am right on how it works in sr4. and also, in my defence, the title of this forum is only shadowrun, not shadowrun 3rd.
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Jan 11 2007, 05:15 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
That's a nice shovel you got there, but it might be the wrong tool for this job.
~J |
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Jan 12 2007, 12:29 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 865 Joined: 31-December 03 From: Shadows of Britain Member No.: 5,944 |
Hey, why did I never get the Dikote Spirit manifested as an Ares Viper Sliver gun that I can have sex with?....
I was welcomed with a fraggin` monosword and Phaeton shooting at me with a 9mm SMG burst... *i forget wich SMG it was, one of the HK series I think* |
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