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 Feb 7 2007, 03:32 PM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668  |
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn2...20070207a4.html
I love how gangsters have known offices. It is also a news item when there is a new God father choosen. |
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Feb 7 2007, 04:41 PM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
nothing new. everyone knew where to find Capone when he lived in Chicago. the trouble was pinning a crime on him.
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Feb 7 2007, 04:48 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
But did the media announce his election? Litterally. They might have known where to find him but he did not have open officers.
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Feb 7 2007, 11:26 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,640 Joined: 6-June 04 Member No.: 6,383 |
I'm a little surprised that somebody opened fire. That's a little rare for Japan, yeah?
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Feb 8 2007, 12:28 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 31-March 05 From: Georgia Member No.: 7,270 |
do you think using office might be a translation thing, were in an english speaking paper they might have used headquarters, or something?
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Feb 8 2007, 01:05 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Not really. Having fixed and public offices is common practice—it would be unusual for them to not have them.
~J |
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Feb 8 2007, 01:10 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
my guess would be that these are the headquarters of the corporation that the syndicate owns. it's not that the Kobayashi-kai has offices, it's that the guys who run the Kobayashi-kai have sunk a lot of their money into Random Japanese Corporation X, which they founded and are the primary shareholders of. RJCX does a lot of legitimate business, generally in the area of owning things (land and other corporations), which they use to launder and hide their illegitimate business. everyone knows that RJCX is a Kobayashi-kai front, but RJCX is rich enough to afford accountants who can hide the connections. the owners of RJCX hang out at RJCX headquarters, at which location nothing illicit ever happens because the cops are watching that building like hawks. |
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Feb 8 2007, 03:12 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 908 Joined: 31-March 05 From: Georgia Member No.: 7,270 |
okay. An american newspaper might have written something like, "gunmen fired shots outside the offices of Luigi's sanitation, a business long suspected of ties with the _____ Crime family."
I see the parallels. |
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Feb 8 2007, 03:16 PM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
I'll try to find a reference, but I'm almost certain that that's not correct. If I remember correctly, we're talking about offices that are, explicitly and publicly, for the Yakuza organization and not a front business.
~J |
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Feb 8 2007, 03:55 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I always knew Mario was involved with something bigger than just plumbing... |
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Feb 8 2007, 03:59 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
well, if you had the power to jump into a sewage pipe and end up in a magical fantasy world, that would give you a great way to get rid of bodies.
could be. Japan's a weird place. |
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Feb 8 2007, 04:33 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
Yakuza are odd.
I've heard stories of the Yaks being the first in after earthquakes, helping people rebuild, and the government basically saying "The Yaks have it." I knew a girl who's father was the head prosecutor in Nagoya in charge of chasing down the Yakuza. I heard some very very odd things from her. One of the oddest was her story of driving home one night, late, on her scooter. This bike gang circles her, and revves their engines, she gets *really* nervous. Then one of them realizes who she is, and they grin, and wave, call out a greeting, and escort her home. |
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Feb 8 2007, 05:20 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 976 Joined: 16-September 04 From: Near my daughters, Lansdale PA Member No.: 6,668 |
It is really bizarre. As I understand it, they have open offices. Not "Everyone knows about the Hunt and Fish Club." But real offices for the particular group.
The fact shots were fired has rattled people though. From what I can read that is really uncommon, even with crime wars. |
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Feb 8 2007, 06:38 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Iirc Japan has really rigid gun possession laws, so it's uncommon for gangsters to have guns.
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Feb 8 2007, 07:03 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
And having a shootout isn't something you do - it's .... well, gauche is kinda the best word I can think of for it.
Although if it's a conflict with the Triads, or the russian mafia, or something, it's not that surprising. There are lots of criminals in Japan now that don't align with the Yakuza's ideals. Edit: I noticed what is considered a "shootout" - three shots fired in the doorway. That's hardly even a greeting some places in the US. ;) |
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Feb 8 2007, 07:59 PM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
what? you don't shoot at people to greet them, in the US. you shoot at them when you're saying good-bye. i swear, nobody understands our culture...
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Feb 8 2007, 08:29 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 6-December 06 Member No.: 10,259 |
So, this was sort of a drive-by "ahoy!", then. :P
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Feb 8 2007, 11:02 PM
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Neophyte Runner Group: Members Posts: 2,174 Joined: 13-May 04 From: UCAS Member No.: 6,327 |
%You say Goodbye, and I say Hello...% |
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Feb 8 2007, 11:10 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 6-December 06 Member No.: 10,259 |
So, do they really do business Street Fighter style? :silly:
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Feb 9 2007, 02:32 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Members Posts: 3,577 Joined: 26-February 02 From: Gwynedd Valley PA Member No.: 1,221 |
blades and arson mainly I think.
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Feb 9 2007, 02:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 6-December 06 Member No.: 10,259 |
They still fight with swords? That's awesome.
Respect. |
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Feb 9 2007, 02:55 AM
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Manus Celer Dei Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 17,006 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Boston Member No.: 3,802 |
Probably not swords. Swords are pretty hard to come by in Japan, strange as that may seem.
~J |
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Feb 9 2007, 04:52 AM
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Immortal Elf Group: Members Posts: 11,410 Joined: 1-October 03 From: Pittsburgh Member No.: 5,670 |
mostly knives. it's not Japan, and it's not Yakuza, but the movie Chingoo (Friend) gives an interesting look at organized crime in a no-guns asian environment.
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Feb 9 2007, 05:32 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 223 Joined: 6-December 06 Member No.: 10,259 |
Awww. No drive-by katanaing? :(
Still, high-level organized crime without guns is pretty damn exotic. At least to me. Then again, all high-level organized crime is pretty exotic to me. :P |
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Feb 9 2007, 09:55 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
No, but they use throwing knifes instead. Sort of a drive-by-throwing. :D |
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