 New Stuff @ Heavy Angel, Red dot scopes and House Rules! |
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 Mar 5 2007, 01:29 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055  |
Well the weekend content load was smaller than expected, but I did a lot of maintnence and house-cleaning at the site. This is in preparation for some new stuff thats in the pipe for the next several weeks, so check back!
The first addition are Red-Dot scopes! These are great for precision shooting, and in some very specific circumstances can actually out-perform a smartlink. Most of the time they are the rough equivilant of a laser sight though. Check them out here: http://heavyangel.com/?page_id=60 The other page should be pretty familiar to Dumpshock readers who read my old post on house rules. I finally got around to posting them on the site here: http://heavyangel.com/?page_id=9 As usual if you spot any problems or typo's, please post them here so I can make corrections. |
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Mar 5 2007, 02:40 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737 |
I like both of them, but the house rules are awesome. And as for the grenade embedded in the car door, it certainly brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "car bombing" doesn't it?! ^_^
So, what happened to the driver of said car? |
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Mar 5 2007, 02:46 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
He had a bad, bad day :)
The best part was him trying to figure our why his buddy was jumping up and down pointing at the door. |
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Mar 5 2007, 03:53 AM
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Creating a god with his own hands Group: Members Posts: 1,405 Joined: 30-September 02 From: 0:0:0:0:0:0:0:1 Member No.: 3,364 |
out-perform a HUD-based reticule that compensates for recoil?
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Mar 5 2007, 05:23 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
Just an errant ' wandering off.... |
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Mar 5 2007, 01:36 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
Not really. If you think out how these work it makes sense. You basically have a dot that is tuned to a specific point in space that a projectile will pass through. So long as the user takes a moment to line things up properly (using a 'take aim' action) the resulting hit is a gimme so long as proper trigger and breathing control are used. I don't think aiming should benefit fully automatic fire, but I can see it benefiting burst fire to an extent. |
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Mar 5 2007, 02:49 PM
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panda! Group: Members Posts: 10,331 Joined: 8-March 02 From: north of central europe Member No.: 2,242 |
given that in SR fully automatic fire is defined as a series of bursts, one could rule that for the first burst in the attack action the aim action have an effect, but the latter ones do not...
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Mar 5 2007, 02:57 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
I like the red-dot thing. Permission to steal for SR3? (As an aside, you have a lot of cool stuff that's SR4 only. Any plans on providing parallel rules for SR3, so I can just link to the whole site instead of picking and choosing?)
One thing I've been wondering about putting in myself, but might be better served by someone more familiar with firearms, have you considered putting in tritium sights? They're tiny, glow-in-the-dark iron sights. Unlike laser sights, normal iron sights, scopes, etc., they allow you to quickly determine where your gun is pointing even in pitch black. Doesn't help so much with target acquisition, but at least you know the gun is pointing the right way. I'm worried the bonus would be too small to bother with though... Thoughts? Typo: “Thy grenades shalt not defy Sir Issack Newton” Isaac? Also, what's wrong with rubber grenades? I think it's funnier when I bounce them off the floor. "45degrees" Missing a space “Thy Grenades may sometimes become one with their targets” 'Grenades' should be lower case. "The GM can consult barrier ratings if they like," You've just highlighted a more pervasive bastardization of the English language. "They" is a plural pronoun, not singular neuter (unless the GM happens to be some sort of group consciousness, then it many be acceptable). Proper grammar would be 'if he likes', 'if she likes', OR, if you really want to go all the way, 'if he or she likes'. |
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Mar 5 2007, 03:17 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
Be my guest on converting! Once I figure out a nice way to code it, I'd love to make the site work for both SR3 and SR4, where it would only show the data pertinant to what the users version is. As for the Tritium sights, I have them installed on my carry piece IRL, so I'm very familiar with them. I was planning on writing up rules for them in the near future, and I was thinking that a small reduction to darkness based penalties would be appropriate. I'll let you know when I get them posted! By the way, thanks to all you english majors! I'll be editing the site tonight to correct the atrocities my public education has wrought on the interweb! Keep up the good work! Good editors make for good writing! |
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Mar 5 2007, 03:35 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
Have you had a look at these? |
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Mar 5 2007, 04:02 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Not any time recently, but Hullbreach's site also isn't blocked by my work's filter, and yours is :P
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Mar 5 2007, 05:01 PM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 5,889 Joined: 3-August 03 From: A CPI rank 1 country Member No.: 5,222 |
I should wish it was mine, but all I can take credit for on that site is the correction of one typo. :)
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Mar 5 2007, 08:29 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,333 Joined: 19-August 06 From: Austin Member No.: 9,168 |
Depends on the player. ;) I know a couple people that have grenades that deserve the cap....
I always prefer to reword the sentence. "The GM can consult barrier ratings if necessary." |
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Mar 5 2007, 08:31 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 10,416 |
That's the way I handled these in my games, since they are essentially a variant of the laser pointer type of sighting system. |
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Mar 5 2007, 09:00 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
My reasoning behind why these work the way they do in terms of game mechanics has to do with some real world experience.
Ive used an AR-15 in a light carbine configuration (collapsable stock, 16inch barrel) with both laser sights and red-dot type sights, specifically an Aimpoint Comp M3 2 M.O.A unit. We were at an open range normally used by the police, and had a dozen targets set up at ranges of 10m-50m in a 90 degree arc. Targets were numbered 1-12, and one of us would roll a D12 (Im not shitting you, I actually dug one out for the occaision) and call out the number. The user would then try and put one in the chest and one in the head on that target. Somthing I noticed not just with my own shooting, but with several others who fired the same weapon, was that when using the laser sight, there was a tendancy to do whats referred to as 'chasing the target' where the shooter continually overcorrects in smaller and smaller increments, trying to muscle the weapon onto target. I suspect that smartgun users would suffer simalar habits as their reticule would be in almost constant motion as it compensates for a variety of factors to show the systems projected point of impact. When using the red-dot sights, I noticed that users had a tendency to index onto the target, pause for a moment, then fire. Shooting with the reflex sights was generally more precise, and surprisingly despite the pause, faster. |
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Mar 5 2007, 09:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 941 Joined: 25-January 07 Member No.: 10,765 |
I'll voice a mild disagreement with you, if only to point out the opposite perspective.
Remember that the makers of the Smartlink systems will have had the advantages of decades with red dot sights. In fact, my first expirence with that sort of sight had me thinking 'Smartlinks will do this without having to look through the scope'... or something along those lines. If anything the Smartlink is, to me, the evolved version of the 'aimpoint' sight, not the laser sight, which is why lasers are still in use... it represents a different branch of the technology tree or some such. As for someone's comment about tritium sights... I'd leave it alone mechanically. If there is an appreciable value to the sights (not the forum for that discussion), there would be NO reason for gun makers not to include them as standard by 2050-2070. I'd be more inclined to assume that if they weren't, no one is just going to put on the sights and do nothing else, so if you 'customize' your gun significantly, you get an equipment bonus in general, not '+X in Y Situations'. Of course, I'm rather fond of point shooting techniques and keeping fiddly bits to a minimum in game systems. Getting too fine into the grit of gun customization means players are going to start looking for dice bonuses for having ergonomic grips or chromed barrels.... when your gun gives you more dice than your skill, it's time to rethink your 'customization rules'... ;) |
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Mar 5 2007, 09:32 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,150 Joined: 19-December 05 From: Rhein-Ruhr Megaplex Member No.: 8,081 |
I am sometimes awed what those Biathlon athletes hit with reflex shooting. After all, they fire with a pulse of 170... |
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Mar 5 2007, 09:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
At one point during training we did a drill where we had to sprint 300 yards in full battle rattle then dove prone and started immediately engaging targets on an unknown distance range. Probobly one of the most sobering and best bits of training I ever had. We had guys who could score expert on the range who were having problems hitting in the same zip-code as their target. It gave us a little tast of what combat marksmanship would actually be like, with the adrenalin flowing. |
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Mar 5 2007, 09:48 PM
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Incertum est quo loco te mors expectet; Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 6,546 Joined: 24-October 03 From: DeeCee, U.S. Member No.: 5,760 |
Personalized grip gives a -1 to recoil compensation. :P |
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Mar 5 2007, 09:55 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 548 Joined: 21-December 06 Member No.: 10,416 |
When I used to shoot regularly, I would sometimes to a set of calesthentics like push ups, jumping jacks and so forth for a minute or so between sets to get the same effect. Shooting prone on a range is one thing, but doing it when your can hardly breathe and your limbs are twitching is a whole other animal. |
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Mar 5 2007, 10:39 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 941 Joined: 25-January 07 Member No.: 10,765 |
This is what I get for posting without perusing my book first. Of course, I loaned it to one of my players in hopes of making him a GM in the near future.... |
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Mar 5 2007, 11:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
This is why I love the PDF & Book bundles that Battlecorps do. I can loan my books to players, and I still have my electronic copies for reference. I've liked the PDF's so much Im planning on replacing my dead laptop: http://heavyangel.com/?page_id=4 with a tablet PC. I've also started buying some of my fiction books in PDF format as well. |
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Mar 7 2007, 03:53 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
Did another small content push tonight, including kits to convert Remington 990 shotguns into an underbarrel "masterkey" type shotgun. It can be seen here:
http://heavyangel.com/?page_id=62 |
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Mar 7 2007, 05:34 AM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...put this at the top of my Bookmarks list. Wonderfully fun site. Gotta get a me a 12 pack of Distraction in a Can.
HA gear may just show up in my next campaign. |
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Mar 7 2007, 01:08 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 366 Joined: 9-August 06 From: Holiday Florida Member No.: 9,055 |
Just out of curiousity, would anyone be interested in seeing kits for mounting tasers as sub-weapons to a long-arm?
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