 Bearding the Dwarf, Why do Dwarfs have beards? |
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 Mar 23 2007, 04:38 AM
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Moving Target  Group: Members Posts: 192 Joined: 29-December 06 Member No.: 10,483  |
One quick question. I know that often time dwarfs are shown as having beards in Shadowrun. Other than dwarfs being dwarfs does anyone ever give a reason they don't just shave? I mean does the beard just grow too fast? I only ask because it seems if I looked like a stereotypical dwarf the last thing I would want is a garden gnome look to add to it.
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Mar 23 2007, 04:44 AM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 16-October 06 Member No.: 9,630 |
Dwarves have far to broad shoulders to look like garden gnomes. They also lack the pointy hats.
As to the main question, The Dwarves of shadowrun trace there origin back tolken's work. And in the Lord of the Rings dwarves have all have beards. |
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Mar 23 2007, 04:50 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,290 Joined: 23-January 07 From: Seattle, USA Member No.: 10,749 |
I'd imagine that dwarves beards do in fact grow at an accelerated rate when compared to humans.
The main reason dwarves usually have beards, however, is probally because it's expected of them. Beardless dwarves look wierd and you get a whole bunch of questions from the big folk about why you shaved off your beard and what not. It's far more simple just to live a sterotype then fight it. However, it should be noted that by no means all dwarves are bearded, it's just the most common look for them. |
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Mar 23 2007, 04:57 AM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,180 Joined: 22-January 07 From: Rochester, NY Member No.: 10,737 |
yeah, none of the dwarfs I have--NPCs and PCs--wear beards; one of them had his beard hair follicles surgically removed because he was so sick of shaving all the time. |
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Mar 23 2007, 07:45 AM
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You could say that dwarfs have coarser hair than elves and humans, and on top of that there seems to be a tendency for dwarfs to be workaholics and regular shaving is simply more time consuming than keeping a beard. Other than that, it's probably a combination of stereotype, social pressure, and out-of-game expectations that build so many SR dwarfs in that mold.
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Mar 23 2007, 09:27 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Twin Cities, MN Member No.: 11,205 |
Actually, beardless dwarves have been pictured in some of the older SR books. I'm fairly certain one of the Contacts books for either SR2 or SR3 pictured a couple beardless dwarves in the art.
And you're right... they look weird. :D |
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Mar 23 2007, 09:31 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
Arthur Vogel doesn't have a beard.
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Mar 23 2007, 09:36 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Twin Cities, MN Member No.: 11,205 |
That's where I remember that from.. I'm gonna have to dig out my SR2 stuff to find the other I was thinking of... |
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Mar 23 2007, 09:38 AM
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Uncle Fisty Group: Admin Posts: 13,891 Joined: 3-January 05 From: Next To Her Member No.: 6,928 |
For the Vogel Pic, try the Dunk's Secrets book
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Mar 23 2007, 09:46 AM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 34 Joined: 11-March 07 From: Twin Cities, MN Member No.: 11,205 |
I was just reading that the other night, actually. Ah, for the glory days of Super Tuesday :spin:
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Mar 23 2007, 10:16 AM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Yes, the good old days...
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Mar 23 2007, 11:05 AM
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Great Dragon Group: Members Posts: 6,748 Joined: 5-July 02 Member No.: 2,935 |
Though the Garden Gnome Industry never did recover after the Awakening. |
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Mar 23 2007, 12:01 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Which isn't necessarily a bad thing...
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Mar 23 2007, 12:02 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 16-January 05 Member No.: 6,984 |
Because beards rock?
Especially since it means you don't need to shave, just get it trimmed now and then. |
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Mar 23 2007, 12:16 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
A better question is, why don't you?
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Mar 23 2007, 12:44 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 144 Joined: 6-March 07 From: Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 11,168 |
Thats why I have a goatee. I am doing way to much to shave all the time, and lets face it, the around the mouth and chin area is the biggest pain to shave, so its a time saving device. Dwarves are just ahead of the curve on this one, I look for humans to catch up by the 7th or 8th world.
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Mar 23 2007, 01:16 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
You've never been to Germany, I guess. Garden Gnome are a sign of the bored suburbian culture here. |
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Mar 23 2007, 01:23 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 144 Joined: 6-March 07 From: Seattle, UCAS Member No.: 11,168 |
Same way in the states, but beards on the other hand are signs of Lumberjacks, Biker Gangs, and ugly Amish women, all of which are inherently tough and thus exemplify a quality desired in runners. |
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Mar 23 2007, 01:31 PM
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The Dragon Never Sleeps Group: Admin Posts: 6,924 Joined: 1-September 05 Member No.: 7,667 |
You're a three foot tall Adult.... in a world where the vast majority of three foot tall people are children. Or baby trogs.
How do you distinguish yourself as an adult? Don't shave. |
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Mar 23 2007, 01:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 349 Joined: 16-January 05 Member No.: 6,984 |
Huh? Sorry, I do not follow what you are saying here. When I said beards rock, I meant that in the sense of "Beards are good", which is an entirely subjective opinion, which may be slightly biased considering my bearded state. |
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Mar 23 2007, 01:41 PM
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Great, I'm a Dragon... Group: Retired Admins Posts: 6,699 Joined: 8-October 03 From: North Germany Member No.: 5,698 |
Oh sorry, thought you were referring to my post. Mea culpa.
Nothing to read here, then. Move along! :D |
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Mar 23 2007, 02:33 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 200 Joined: 22-June 06 Member No.: 8,764 |
Isn't the hacker on the cover of the BBB a beardless dwarf?
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Mar 23 2007, 02:45 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 36 Joined: 28-March 06 From: Ottawa Ontario Canada Member No.: 8,409 |
This makes a lot of sense to me... In my game I kind of alluded that it was a genetic predisposition to faster growing hair. I described one dwarf male with 5 o'clock shadow at 11 am. |
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Mar 23 2007, 02:48 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,784 Joined: 28-July 04 From: Cleveland, OH Member No.: 6,522 |
As that character is wearing pink shorts, lipstick, and has a braid that's probably more than 2 feet in length, one could posit that this character is female, and for purposes of tracking dwarves without beards, probably doesn't count. (Alternatively, that *could* be a crossdressing dwarf.) |
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Mar 23 2007, 02:52 PM
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Bushido Cowgirl Group: Members Posts: 5,782 Joined: 8-July 05 From: On the Double K Ranch a half day's ride out of Phlogiston Flats Member No.: 7,490 |
...at least the two female dwarves in the sample character section SR4 BBB don't have beards. Would be real tough on the one who is the face.
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