 PDF update for Fourth Printing of SR4 Core |
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 Apr 14 2007, 03:38 PM
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Target  Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 6-March 06 Member No.: 8,337  |
Ok so some of us have been asking for almost a month now for a guesstimate on when the PDF version of the core rulebook will be updated with the version 1.5 errata. I keep checking DriveThru and there does not appear to be an updated version out yet. Is it too much to ask for us to at least get a time frame when it will be updated? I'm assuming that the source document had to be updated for the Fourth printing so why the delay? I already bought a hard copy of the new printing, there is no reason that I shouldn't have my PDF update already right?
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Apr 14 2007, 03:44 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,251 Joined: 11-September 04 From: GA Member No.: 6,651 |
If they wanted to make it available they would... but haven't.
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Apr 14 2007, 04:13 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 15 Joined: 6-March 06 Member No.: 8,337 |
Maybe you're right. It does seem kind of fishy. I'll vote with the only power I have then, my wallet!
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Apr 14 2007, 04:50 PM
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Mr. Johnson Group: Dumpshocked Posts: 3,148 Joined: 27-February 06 From: UCAS Member No.: 8,314 |
I just made the alterations in a copy of the one that I have. I can't give it to you folks, but you might want to try doing it yourself.
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Apr 14 2007, 04:50 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,206 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Fresno, CA Member No.: 8,856 |
It has been said before, and I don't know the thread but the PDF has to be bookmarked by hand and that is a time consuming process. Try searching for PDF and Bookmark or bookmarking and you may find if it was Adam or Synner. But that's the delay last I heard, and it wasn't long ago.
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Apr 14 2007, 05:09 PM
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Shadow Cartographer Group: Members Posts: 3,737 Joined: 2-June 06 From: Secret Tunnels under the UK (South West) Member No.: 8,636 |
Don't ask for timeframes. They will only lead to anguish and suffering. I asked for a timeframe for Arsenal and was told June 2006. It's been nothing but miserable checking the shadowrunrpg.com site ever since. But yes, I too would like my updated 4th edition PDF. I thought I heard that Fanpro had taken on someone full time. I know bookmarking can take a while but seriously, the 4th edition has what? A couple of hundred bookmarks. Given that you know where they're all supposed to be you should be able to do them at more than one a minute. It would be a morning's work or thereabouts, shouldn't it? |
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Apr 14 2007, 05:17 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,206 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Fresno, CA Member No.: 8,856 |
I guess my pointing that out was a little pointless since the comment I'm refering to was made in reply to desverendi in this post:
http://forums.dumpshock.com/index.php?show...=0&#entry522079 |
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Apr 16 2007, 06:11 AM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
I'm horribly stuck on another project and have been quite sick lately, as well. The update will be delivered to previous buyers and it will still be free, but until some other stuff is cleaned off my plate, I won't have time to finish it.
I'm not sure what you've heard about FanPro bringing someone new on fulltime, knasser, but there's no truth to that. |
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Apr 16 2007, 01:35 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Members Posts: 1,706 Joined: 30-June 06 From: Fort Wayne, IN Member No.: 8,814 |
Not to add more fuel to the fire, but yeah, looking at the size of the PDF and the amount of bookmarks, this should be within a 4-6 hour timeframe worth of work. Probably a little less for someone familiar with the content...
It just comes down to making it a priority and honestly, I don't see it as a high one. Everyone has tasks in their job that they don't "feel" like doing or making it a priority...things that are tedious or whatnot. And with FanPro being mainly made up of freelancers, I am sure there is much more interesting things for a person to do... But then again, the tedious jobs usually end up being not as bad as you thought once you start... With a full plate and a less than desirable task at hand, I am not surprised it is taking this long... |
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Apr 17 2007, 12:42 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 18-August 03 From: Apopka, FL U.S.A. Member No.: 5,516 |
Adam,
I'm curious. What software do you use to do final production for Shadowrun books? Most of the word processing, technical publication, and desktop publishing software I've worked with can generate bookmarks automatically during .pdf creation. Just professional curiosity I guess. Robert |
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Apr 17 2007, 02:51 PM
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Hoppelhäschen 5000 Group: Members Posts: 5,807 Joined: 3-January 04 Member No.: 5,951 |
The PDF says: InDesign.
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Apr 17 2007, 11:56 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
InDesign CS2. InDesign can create bookmarks automatically when you export to PDF, but not when you print to postscript and distill to PDF, which is the process I use for SR4 -- it provides better conversion of the spot colors to RGB. I tried being a sneaky bastard and exporting one file with bookmarks to PDF, then printing to postscript, distilling, and creating a second file with the same number of pages from the better-quality process, and then simply replacing all the pages in the worse-but-bookmarked file with the better-quality pages, but it didn't work as I expected, and caused massive file bloat even after going through the usual tricks to lower PDF file size. |
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Apr 18 2007, 01:40 PM
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Moving Target Group: Members Posts: 133 Joined: 18-August 03 From: Apopka, FL U.S.A. Member No.: 5,516 |
Well, I don't know your budget, but since you'll probably encounter this issue with every Shadowrun book, you might want to consider a couple of options we've considered in the past.
1) You could take a look at one of several tool/plugins out there that allow you to copy bookmarks from one .pdf file to another. I don't have any specific recommendations, but I know there are a couple popular packages. 2) You might also want to consider a pre-press tool that can do color conversions within pdf files. I'd assume you need something to convert CMYK to RGB. Just a couple thoughts to help our favorite layout guy make his job easier. ;-) Robert |
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Apr 18 2007, 02:36 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 3-October 06 Member No.: 9,529 |
I seem to be failing my perception test. Where is the 1.5 errata? I just checked shadowrunrpg.com and the latest errata I can find is still 1.3.
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Apr 18 2007, 02:38 PM
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Shooting Target Group: Retired Admins Posts: 1,784 Joined: 28-July 04 From: Cleveland, OH Member No.: 6,522 |
On the Errata Page. :cyber: |
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Apr 18 2007, 02:51 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,206 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Fresno, CA Member No.: 8,856 |
In wilcoxon's defense if you select the errata link under the big Shadowrun icon at the top of the page you get the link you linked, however if you select errata in the gray box on the left it takes you to errata 1.3...
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Apr 18 2007, 02:56 PM
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Target Group: Members Posts: 69 Joined: 3-October 06 Member No.: 9,529 |
Thanks.
Silly me thinking that two links both labeled "Errata" on the same page of the same site would actually take you to the same errata. :| |
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Apr 18 2007, 08:09 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
Fixed. Demerzel, if you find mistakes like that in the future, please send them to webmaster@shadowrunrpg.com
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Apr 18 2007, 08:29 PM
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Running Target Group: Members Posts: 1,206 Joined: 9-July 06 From: Fresno, CA Member No.: 8,856 |
Heh, oh yea...
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Apr 18 2007, 08:33 PM
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Prime Runner Group: Retired Admins Posts: 3,929 Joined: 26-February 02 From: .ca Member No.: 51 |
I've tried a few of these and haven't found one that I liked -- but it was awhile ago, and I can't remember which specific ones I tried. I do consider hand-built bookmark sets to be a good thing, btw: it lets me drop out some entries when they're really redundant, or move them around slightly to make some of the sidebars slightly better positioned, add duplicate listings of all the maps, that sort of stuff. Even if I found an automated tool, I'd still end up spending some time going through the bookmarks to touch them up a bit.
I've tried doing the color-conversion in Acrobat, and it always ends up making it into a very shocking electric green... ;-) Good suggestions, though. I think I have the process down, so when the other work lets up, should be able to bash it out without problems. |
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